JimBowie1958
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I like that Southern Cross in your avie.
Is "the media lies " the new conservative line ?
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AntonToo
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It's a natural development in increasingly intellectually lazy RWland.
EverCurious
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Correction, I should have specified "mass media news" as noted in the article.
Fenton Lum How am I wrong?
Republican trust - 14%
Independent trust - 30%
Democrat trust 51%
The study supports my statement that the only folks trusting the media these days are on the left.
Fenton Lum How am I wrong?
Republican trust - 14%
Independent trust - 30%
Democrat trust 51%
The study supports my statement that the only folks trusting the media these days are on the left.
SavannahMann
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Actually that is a screenshot of The NY Times election night probability chart. As the night began Hillary had an 80% chance of winning the election. Every hour showed a massive change until Trump took the lead. But nice try to claim I'm racist.
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AntonToo
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It's not a fault of Democrats that Republicanism attracts so many intellectually lazy nutters.
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Do I really have to explain numbers to you? Good lord man.
JimBowie1958
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Looks like a new style Southern Cross to me!
WaitingFor2020
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Except that Trump is in a meeting with the NYT as we speak. He's mad at them. It's just as I predicted: He's going to waste ALL of his time and ours on his petty fights with the media and anybody else who takes him on. He's not a leader. He's an aging juvenile delinquent.
EverCurious
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More D's trust the media than R's and I's - those are the numbers... Please do explain numbers Fenton Lum I'm curious.
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NYcarbineer
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Which half of what you just posted are we supposed to believe?
AntonToo
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More D's trust the media than R's and I's - those are the numbers... Please do explain numbers Fenton Lum I'm curious.
May I explain it to you?
Do you trust Trump?
AntonToo
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So what you are saying is you don't trust New York Times because they didn't know the outcome of election before it happened?
Ridiculous, no?
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Looks like a new style Southern Cross to me!
So you admit that truth and facts aren't going to sway your opinion? I picked it for a simple reason.
Have you ever watched NCIS? Gibbs rules are funny because I have long had similar rules to live by. Most of us do I suppose even if we don't make a list of them. But we do try to live by our rules. I mention NCIS because the predictions of election night demonstrate Gibbs rule 51. Sometimes you're wrong.
My version of that rule is much higher on my personal list. I came across that truth much earlier in my life I suppose.
Everyone was absolutely certain what the outcome would be. I even told people that I expected Hillary to win. I was wrong. But since I had long ago learned that I could be wrong, I never said it was certain, just highly probable. I won't lie, I am happy that the corrupt and untrustworthy Hillary will not have the power she sought so desperately. So election night for me was a pleasant surprise. I was wrong, and quite happy that I was.
Now you can ignore the one in five minority voters who picked Trump if you wish to maintain your baseless argument that all Trump voters are racist. But it's one thing to be wrong and admit it. It's another altogether to be wrong and deny the facts and truth that face you. It's your life, and your choice.
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EverCurious
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antontoo Depends on what you mean by "trust" Do I believe that he will do his best to implement the things he thinks will better the country - Yes I do as I've been watching him say basically the same things since the 80s. Do I trust that Trump loves the country - Yes. Do I think that he will be able to get all of the things he wants to do done - Unfortunately no. Do I think that his ideas are in general good for the country - yes.
What this has to do with trust in the media however, is rather irrelevant. As you'll note in my sig I have a long standing distrust for the MSM because I've always been one to investigate further than the headlines and I know they lie, twist, distort, etc. to further their agendas. When a media body has an agenda, bias follows. The difference is that this year folks on the right noticed, big league. In fact, they noted specifically that the media was spending way more time bitching about Trumps flaws than they did Clinton - they saw the twists and lies directly because the media was absolutely shameless about propaganda bias even whilst having the video available on the reporting pages. Thus why they lost so much trust, they basically outed themselves, then the Wikileaks and other sources came out and essentially proved that "conception" to be true.
What this has to do with trust in the media however, is rather irrelevant. As you'll note in my sig I have a long standing distrust for the MSM because I've always been one to investigate further than the headlines and I know they lie, twist, distort, etc. to further their agendas. When a media body has an agenda, bias follows. The difference is that this year folks on the right noticed, big league. In fact, they noted specifically that the media was spending way more time bitching about Trumps flaws than they did Clinton - they saw the twists and lies directly because the media was absolutely shameless about propaganda bias even whilst having the video available on the reporting pages. Thus why they lost so much trust, they basically outed themselves, then the Wikileaks and other sources came out and essentially proved that "conception" to be true.
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New, hardly, journalism died in this country more than a decade ago. Journalist are supposed to report the who, what, when and where of a news story and leave the why to the consumer, today they think their opinion on the why somehow matters, it doesn't.
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No you can thank left wing journalism schools that are teaching it's a journalist job to change the world. A real journalist documents the world, they don't attempt to interpret or effect events. TV journalism changed when CNN had to fill 24 hours of programing with only 3-4 hours of news. They're the ones that started bringing in so called experts to provide commentary. Commentary is NOT NEWS. Unfortunately low information people don't know the difference.
AntonToo
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And there in is your answer.
Trump is a pathological liar, he WAS NOT saying same things from the 80's, in fact he probably flip and flopped and flipped again on more then just about anyone on record, starting with the fact that he was a registered Democrat up until a few years ago.
No one knows what "his ideas" are, as they seem to be as flexible as political gain requires.
You do not trust professional journalists who have credibility on the line for every word they print, but do trust a man who states a blatant falsehood every three minuets of speech.
That is how you end up with 14% of Republicans not trusting the media - you got no perspective, you just elect to trust whatever confirms your bias.
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facts are facts.
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