Is the "free stuff" remark fair to Sanders?

[g5000]

Bernie Sanders gives the deliberate impression he is going to give the masses all kinds of free stuff and the "billionaire class" will pay for every penny of it.

You are a rube of the first order if you believe either part of the former or the latter.

 

[Mac1958]

As is typical in partisan politics, there is some truth to it, and the rest is bullshit. If a college student doesn't have to pay for college, then yeah, that's "free". And someone else is paying for it, as you point out. There it is.

Should we charge teenagers to attend High School?...After all, those kids aren't paying for it...We ALL are.

That's correct. A society makes decisions on many things. A person could also argue that many other things "should" be "free" as well, but that's up to the society. Food? Underwear? Clothing? Transportation? Water? I could go on for quite a while.

The primary question to me is the point of equilibrium at which the amount "free" things a government "provides" become a net drag on the efficiency & growth of an economy, a society and a culture.

But I know partisans aren't really into that kind of nuance. Keep it simple, keep it simple.
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[bendog]

NK isn't communist, dumbfuck.

Interesting spin.......
The Communist movement in Korea emerged as a political movement in the early 20th century. Although the movement had a minor role in pre-war politics, the division between the communist North Korea and the anti-communistSouth Korea came to dominate Korean political life in the post-World War II era.

They also say the USSR and china were communist... doesn't mean they are right.
The very essence of communism is not have a totalitarian dictator in the driver seat.
There has NEVER been a communist country. EVER

ummmm, yes and no.

Communism is a system based upon communal ownership of all property.
Communism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
If you have problems with wiki feel free to substitute your own def, but they're all the same basically.

But yes the soviet union used a econ system of communism.

The question might be whether any country with a communist economy can avoid becoming totalitarian.

 

[Dragonlady]

Bernie Sanders gives the deliberate impression he is going to give the masses all kinds of free stuff and the "billionaire class" will pay for every penny of it.

You are a rube of the first order if you believe either part of the former or the latter.

That's a false and misleading characterization.

Republicans have spending priorities, the American Empire being chief among them. Americans want to spend money on their military, and invade at every opportunity.

Republicans don't want to spend money on infrastructure, education or to provide programs to the poor.

Bernie wants to refocus priorities.

 

[TNHarley]

NK isn't communist, dumbfuck.

Interesting spin.......
The Communist movement in Korea emerged as a political movement in the early 20th century. Although the movement had a minor role in pre-war politics, the division between the communist North Korea and the anti-communistSouth Korea came to dominate Korean political life in the post-World War II era.

They also say the USSR and china were communist... doesn't mean they are right.
The very essence of communism is not have a totalitarian dictator in the driver seat.
There has NEVER been a communist country. EVER

ummmm, yes and no.

Communism is a system based upon communal ownership of all property.
Communism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
If you have problems with wiki feel free to substitute your own def, but they're all the same basically.

But yes the soviet union used a econ system of communism.

The question might be whether any country with a communist economy can avoid becoming totalitarian.

I have no problem with wiki. They change their stuff often. People give them hell, but they try.
USSR was a socialist dictatorship. The economy was completely controlled by the govt. Stalin even controlled what crops were to be planted.

 

[bendog]

Bernie Sanders gives the deliberate impression he is going to give the masses all kinds of free stuff and the "billionaire class" will pay for every penny of it.

You are a rube of the first order if you believe either part of the former or the latter.

He's a pied piper, if you will. Not unlike the Donald. Even my daughter gives the Bern some love in that as a middle class kid, if you aspire to being an MD or PhD of some kind, you're looking at a lot of debt. We have a system where the gummit makes money available to banks for 1% and less, and they lend it to kids, making them lifetime debtors. The Bern takes what is undeniably an inequitable division of power and money, and proposes an attractive, but unrealistic solution.

The Donald does the same with illegal immigration, for example. I think the Bern is actually serious about his proposals, but I'm not sure of the Donald.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

 

[g5000]

Bernie Sanders gives the deliberate impression he is going to give the masses all kinds of free stuff and the "billionaire class" will pay for every penny of it.

You are a rube of the first order if you believe either part of the former or the latter.

That's a false and misleading characterization.

Republicans have spending priorities, the American Empire being chief among them. Americans want to spend money on their military, and invade at every opportunity.

Republicans don't want to spend money on infrastructure, education or to provide programs to the poor.

Bernie wants to refocus priorities.

This is precisely why Clinton has been hitting Sanders on his soft underbelly of foreign affairs. You are confirming her claims.

However, I have never heard Sanders associate his spending on "free stuff" with scaling back our defensive posture. He always associates it with the "billionaire class".

 

[Dot Com]

Bernie Sanders gives the deliberate impression he is going to give the masses all kinds of free stuff and the "billionaire class" will pay for every penny of it.

You are a rube of the first order if you believe either part of the former or the latter.

do you deny that there are 2nd & 3rd order benefits of combating the Rx, Insurance & banking cartels?

 

[Dot Com]

^ The extent os SmellyPutridGass's political debating skills

 

[g5000]

Bernie Sanders gives the deliberate impression he is going to give the masses all kinds of free stuff and the "billionaire class" will pay for every penny of it.

You are a rube of the first order if you believe either part of the former or the latter.

do you deny that there are 2nd & 3rd order benefits of combating the Rx, Insurance & banking cartels?

And here we have Left Wing Logic:

1. The Government must do something.

2. This is something.

3. The Government must do this.

 

[BluesLegend]

Bernie Sanders gives the deliberate impression he is going to give the masses all kinds of free stuff and the "billionaire class" will pay for every penny of it.

You are a rube of the first order if you believe either part of the former or the latter.

do you deny that there are 2nd & 3rd order benefits of combating the Rx, Insurance & banking cartels?

You bunch of dumb ass libs the Federal government controls neary $4,000 billion dollars a year and you idiots foam at the mouth about grabbing a share of corporations who earn a tiny fraction of that. $4,000 billion go protest the Federal government for your share of that.

 

[Dot Com]

Bernie Sanders gives the deliberate impression he is going to give the masses all kinds of free stuff and the "billionaire class" will pay for every penny of it.

You are a rube of the first order if you believe either part of the former or the latter.

do you deny that there are 2nd & 3rd order benefits of combating the Rx, Insurance & banking cartels?

And here we have Left Wing Logic:

1. The Government must do something.

2. This is something.

3. The Government must do this.

ummm..... the "too big to fail" banks are larger now than they were in 2008. You like "HAVING" to rescue those monopolies when they eventually get more greedy than they already are and precipitate another 2008 & fail again sending the econ into another tail spin?

RX & Insurance cartels speak for themselves.

 

[Dot Com]

Bernie Sanders gives the deliberate impression he is going to give the masses all kinds of free stuff and the "billionaire class" will pay for every penny of it.

You are a rube of the first order if you believe either part of the former or the latter.

do you deny that there are 2nd & 3rd order benefits of combating the Rx, Insurance & banking cartels?

You bunch of dumb ass libs the Federal government controls neary $4,000 billion dollars a year and you idiots foam at the mouth about grabbing a share of corporations who earn a tiny fraction of that. $4,000 billion go protest the Federal government for your share of that.

Those people you mentioned OWN the senate dummy.

FYI- I don't have you on ignore out of a sense of charity. Don't push it.

 

[BluesLegend]

Bernie Sanders gives the deliberate impression he is going to give the masses all kinds of free stuff and the "billionaire class" will pay for every penny of it.

You are a rube of the first order if you believe either part of the former or the latter.

do you deny that there are 2nd & 3rd order benefits of combating the Rx, Insurance & banking cartels?

You bunch of dumb ass libs the Federal government controls neary $4,000 billion dollars a year and you idiots foam at the mouth about grabbing a share of corporations who earn a tiny fraction of that. $4,000 billion go protest the Federal government for your share of that.

Those people you mentioned OWN the senate dummy.

FYI- I don't have you on ignore out of a sense of charity. Don't push it.

LOL when I want to debate the JV team I'll let you know.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"free stuff" is a ridiculous lie contrived by the right.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

^ The extent os SmellyPutridGass's political debating skills

I hear the Flame Zone calling you Mr Butthurt And Need TO Start Attack Threads. Of course you won't grasp it

 

[Dot Com]

^ The extent os SmellyPutridGass's political debating skills

I hear the Flame Zone calling you Mr Butthurt And Need TO Start Attack Threads. Of course you won't grasp it

I hear logic calling you to come up w/ some new mat'l

 

[SassyIrishLass]

^ The extent os SmellyPutridGass's political debating skills

I hear the Flame Zone calling you Mr Butthurt And Need TO Start Attack Threads. Of course you won't grasp it

I hear logic calling you to come up w/ some new mat'l

Go bother someone else, or snuggle up with Guano...just get lost

 

[Dot Com]

^ The extent os SmellyPutridGass's political debating skills

I hear the Flame Zone calling you Mr Butthurt And Need TO Start Attack Threads. Of course you won't grasp it

I hear logic calling you to come up w/ some new mat'l

Go bother someone else, or snuggle up with Guano...just get lost

IOW's- you can't debate. Tell us something we don't know. Perhaps you should stay in the lobby?

As to the OP- free stuff is rw code for those dang black people!!! (even though a great many on social services are poor whites in red states. )