Is the end near for Internal Combustion?

[bigrebnc1775]

We will see a major shift in the next decade with most cars being electric within 20

The car companies won’t support two platforms

Bad Mistake power grid can't keep up. To time consuming to charge a vehicle.

 

[Lastamender]

More auto companies are moving to Electric Vehicles. Nobody is investing in R&D for Internal Combustion. The handwriting is on the wall.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/27/business/ford-layoffs/index.html

As Ford shifts to producing more electric vehicles, it expects to lay off a number of employees, mostly engineers, in North America over the coming days.

Your end is much closer.

 

[Lastamender]

In light of your breathless joy at the death of fossil fuel autos, if true this may actually be the end of personal transportation, as 100 million drives have to ride the bus because there is not enough electricity to meet demand

But if so what happens to homes actoss America that are without elect also?

Greenies have not thought this trough and are acting on simple emotion

When you lie to people you have to appeal to their emotions. The narrative is not fact based. They need to create villains while they avoid facts.

 

[Mac-7]

When you lie to people you have to appeal to their emotions. The narrative is not fact based. They need to create villains while they avoid facts.

The left are going to have to think up some fancy lies to avoid being blamed when drivers cant recharge their EV

 

[toobfreak]

No need for a cooling system, emissions control, exhaust system, fuel injection, transmission

Most of those were made required by the government, non-essential to the car itself. And many of them IMPROVE the car's efficiency and cleanliness! Also, ICE is simple, low tech. Just some steel and plastic.

Electric is just a battery, motor and brakes

And a coal plant, and a hydro plant, and a power plant, step up transformer, high tension power lines, step down transformer, unavailable charging system, needing extensive cobalt, nickel, lithium and carbon mining using slave labor in poor countries wreaking havoc on the land and environment, that is then expensive and difficult to recycle, plus a battery half the weight of the car that can't take you very far, might burst into flames for no reason on you and craps out on you in winter driving where 70% of the country needs it. Not to mention an insufficient power grid already prone to outages and brown outs. And the cars are DOUBLE the cost of an ICE car, and need a new $25,000 battery every ten years! Plus, expect electric costs to SOAR!

Other than that, you just can't beat an EV.

 

[Lastamender]

The left are going to have to think up some fancy lies to avoid being blamed when drivers cant recharge their EV

They do not want people traveling. That is how things really get organized. When that happens they will ignore the people as they do on almost everything else important to them. They are shitting all over the citizens.

 

[Mac-7]

They do not want people traveling. That is how things really get organized. When that happens they will ignore the people as they do on almost everything else important to them. They are shitting all over the citizens.

They dream of everyone wearing Mao jackets and riding a bicycle

 

[rightwinger]

Most of those were made required by the government, non-essential to the car itself. And many of them IMPROVE the car's efficiency and cleanliness! Also, ICE is simple, low tech. Just some steel and plastic.


And a coal plant, and a hydro plant, and a power plant, step up transformer, high tension power lines, step down transformer, unavailable charging system, needing extensive cobalt, nickel, lithium and carbon mining using slave labor in poor countries wreaking havoc on the land and environment, that is then expensive and difficult to recycle, plus a battery half the weight of the car that can't take you very far, might burst into flames for no reason on you and craps out on you in winter driving where 70% of the country needs it. Not to mention an insufficient power grid already prone to outages and brown outs. And the cars are DOUBLE the cost of an ICE car, and need a new $25,000 battery every ten years! Plus, expect electric costs to SOAR!

Other than that, you just can't beat an EV.

sorry….too much damn misinformation to bother to respond

 

[toobfreak]

sorry….too much damn misinformation to bother to respond

You respond to yourself?

SHOVE IT, Jackhole, you can't show one bit of misinformation so now you CAVED. EVs SUCK the big one, otherwise, Biden wouldn't be so for them.

 

[Lastamender]

sorry….too much damn misinformation to bother to respond

You do not make that decision. You have nothing to say.

 

[sparky]

Inadequate charging infrastructure: It’s improving throughout the country but is far from where it needs to be to handle an ever-growing number of electric vehicles.

And the power grid will be fossil fuels to generate the electricity for those EV's.

Greenies have not thought this through and are acting on simple emotion

Bad Mistake power grid can't keep up

sorry….too much damn misinformation to bother to respond

It's more than just EV's , everything is going electric

Residential heating systems are making a comeback

States like mine hand out 'points' for designs inclusive of this, along with EV chargers , much of it is subsidized as well

So now the local archy's are dictating 400A & even 600A services on a residence.....which was unheard of until recently (the norm being 100A & 200A services)

Imagine that on every home in your neighborhood....imagine those poles, lines & substations doubling also

The poco's are having conniptions ......resulting in their preparing for rolling blackouts

I've some 50 odd battery back up systems scheduled for install in my immediate area, before '24

These are all in remote areas , all $$$ by the poco, and all of them are bidirectional

Seems they can do the math, eh?

~S~

 

[Innocynioc]

I can't even imagine how big and super heavy a battery would need to be to propel a super tanker across the Pacific ocean.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

I can't even imagine how big and super heavy a battery would need to be to propel a super tanker across the Pacific ocean.

About a quarter mile of earths resources dug out of the ground

 

[JustAGuy1]

Not going to happen

 

[iamwhatiseem]

We will see a major shift in the next decade with most cars being electric within 20

The car companies won’t support two platforms

I think there will be a significant negative shift in electric cars once the ones people are driving now begin failing and figure out there is no such thing as significant trade-in vale with an EV after as little as 5 or 6 years.
Manufacturers say they will last between 100,000 and 200,000... well what the hell does that mean? That is one HELLuva gap there.
Other articles not paid for by car makers say that noticeable battery degrading could be seen as low as 75,000 miles.
But the truth is - no one really knows. Car makers obviously repeat the best of expectations, while other predictions are much lower.

 

[sparky]

Not going to happen

Nope
the bigger investors are pulling out
and that's despite all the federal subsidies
~S~

 

[AZrailwhale]

AC and heat limit mileage in EVs

My Fusion hybrid gets 35 to 50mpg outside of the hot months here in Arizona. From June to October, it gets 28 to 35mpg. That is real world experience over five years of ownership.

 

[Leo123]

My Fusion hybrid gets 35 to 50mpg outside of the hot months here in Arizona. From June to October, it gets 28 to 35mpg. That is real world experience over five years of ownership.

A hybrid is not the same as an EV which is all electric.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

We will see a major shift in the next decade with most cars being electric within 20

The car companies won’t support two platforms

You assume people are going to buy them. You can't force the public into something they don't want, nor does the infrastructure exist to support your timeline.

 

[rightwinger]

You assume people are going to buy them. You can't force the public into something they don't want, nor does the infrastructure exist to support your timeline.

Infrastructure is growing exponentially
Most EV buyers are satisfied with their purchase