Is The Democrat Plan To Damage The Economy Working?

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Yes, the Russians created the pictures, the videos, the emails, and got several of his former partners to agree they were all genuine. So why doesn't the FBI come out and say it was Russia disinformation instead of saying the opposite which this has nothing to do with Russia?
Again, they don't want to get blamed for how the election turned out like they did in 2016.

Use a bit of common sense. If they've had these since December and they were real, there'd be criminal charges filed by now.

Yes, the NYT magically (without Trump's permission) got a hold of Trumps tax records for over a decade like this phony report claims. Gee, if they have Trump's tax records, why don't they publish them? Isn't the left the people so worked up that Trump never revealed them to the public yet?
Why aren't you? Why hasn't Trump done what everone who has run for President in the last 50 years has done.

You have a lot to learn about politics Joe, especially leftist politics. Now do tell: where would this news site get copies of Trump's tax records from? It's not public information. In fact Trump would have to sign a release for them to get such records. Should the AG use this report to start locking people up at this news site and the NYT? They clearly violated federal law.
Sure. Good luck with that. You think any jury is going to convict in NY or DC, they hate Trump with a passion.

He didn't steal from anybody. It was his organization that raised the money.
He raised the money for sick kids, and spent it on himself.
 
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Again, they don't want to get blamed for how the election turned out like they did in 2016.

Use a bit of common sense. If they've had these since December and they were real, there'd be criminal charges filed by now.
Not if the deep state is still in operation under Wray they wouldn't. If they didn't want to interfere in the election, why did they come out and say it has nothing to do with Russia? I will agree that something is amiss about them having this evidence for nearly a year and not doing anything about it. I'm anxious to find out why, which we never will if Biden is elected.

Why aren't you? Why hasn't Trump done what everone who has run for President in the last 50 years has done.
Why should he? It wouldn't benefit him. All the left wants is something they can criticize him about, and probably most of them would lie about what's in those returns as well. That's besides the fact the IRS constantly has wealthy people being audited and it has nothing to do with his job as the President. On the other hand, Biden and Whorris refuse to answer the question about packing the court. They refuse to state whether they would make DC and PR states so they can cheat the country. That has everything to do with Biden's potential job as a President.

Sure. Good luck with that. You think any jury is going to convict in NY or DC, they hate Trump with a passion.
It would end up in a federal court, and even if they didn't convict, appeals could be made to the next higher court. How about the more obvious: it's

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He raised the money for sick kids, and spent it on himself.
His campaign did, and the money was returned. It was the AG who made sure the money never got to the kids. He did the exact same thing DumBama did when he was found to have spent campaign funds on non-campaign items.
 

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Ray - correction:

You don't pay capital gains taxes on your IRA. You pay income taxes when you make a withdrawal.

Any savings you have in a brokerage account that you purchase stocks with will pay more in capital gains. but you have to have more than 80K in capital gains before you pay anything unless your income is above 65K (not sure about the 65k - but there is a limit in which you start to pay capital gains.)

so really it won't hurt anyone but the really well off. I'm for raising capital gains but it needs to be incremental based on income and it should be capped at 28%. I don't think the market impact will be too great. CEO and such will start taking more income and less stock options and they will start paying more in income taxes.
Capital gains taxes are lower to encourage investments. We depend on the market not only to secure our IRA, but to assist in the economy as well. It's like Ronald Reagan once said: If you want more of something, subsidize it. If you want less of something, tax it.

Remember that DumBama did nothing for our economy. What saved his ass was the feds dumping trillions into that market, and that's what got the economy started and growing again, albeit at a pathetic rate. Then he got a boost when energy prices greatly decreased thanks to fracking, which the Biden/ Harris team is against. Everybody across the country had more residual income and put that into the economy.
The wealthy don't need motivation. LOL
 

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Not if the deep state is still in operation under Wray they wouldn't. If they didn't want to interfere in the election, why did they come out and say it has nothing to do with Russia? I will agree that something is amiss about them having this evidence for nearly a year and not doing anything about it. I'm anxious to find out why, which we never will if Biden is elected.
Actually, what they said was they had nothing to add to RAT-cliffe's comments. Anyone with a lick of sense can see this is Russian disinformation, which is why the story has quietly died down.

Why should he? It wouldn't benefit him. All the left wants is something they can criticize him about, and probably most of them would lie about what's in those returns as well. That's besides the fact the IRS constantly has wealthy people being audited and it has nothing to do with his job as the President.
Every other presidential Candidate, for the last 50 years, has released his records. They are all rich. None of them were under Audit. Trump has been using this Audit bullshit for 5 years now, don't tell me you are drinking the bleach on that one

On the other hand, Biden and Whorris refuse to answer the question about packing the court. They refuse to state whether they would make DC and PR states so they can cheat the country. That has everything to do with Biden's potential job as a President.
Not sure how letting American Citizens have representation in Congress is "cheating the country". There are more Americans in Puerto Rico than there are in fucking Wyoming. As far as reforming the courts, since we really haven't started having that debate in Congress (which will be the ultimate arbiter) there's no point taking a position on it now.

It would end up in a federal court, and even if they didn't convict, appeals could be made to the next higher court. How about the more obvious: it's
Actually, you don't seem to get the concept of how our courts work.

His campaign did, and the money was returned. It was the AG who made sure the money never got to the kids. He did the exact same thing DumBama did when he was found to have spent campaign funds on non-campaign items.
Again- Trump cheated SICK KIDS. Not, "Put the receipt in the wrong expense column"... HE CHEATED SICK KIDS. He was then banned from ever running a charity in New York again.
 
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Actually, what they said was they had nothing to add to RAT-cliffe's comments. Anyone with a lick of sense can see this is Russian disinformation, which is why the story has quietly died down.
No, they said it had nothing to do with Russian disinformation. I'd post the link, but as always, you'll refuse to read or believe it. The only reason you think the story is dying down is because the MSM refuses to cover it. They are nothing more than an extension of the Democrat party. Tucker Carlson's interview with Tony Bobulinski was the top rated cable news network show. People want to understand the corruption that went on in the Biden family.

If you would take the time to watch the interview (which I'm sure you won't, like showing Dracula a cross) you would hear how Shoemaker associated him with Russia disinformation, and that's what pissed him off. He's an honorable military man, from a military family, a successful and honest businessman, and a Democrat supporter and donor. What he said is he was not about to let the commies tarnish his and his family name.

Every other presidential Candidate, for the last 50 years, has released his records. They are all rich. None of them were under Audit. Trump has been using this Audit bullshit for 5 years now, don't tell me you are drinking the bleach on that one
All those other candidates are professional politicians. They organized their taxes to make it look good for the public in the event they do make it as a nominee for their party. Trump didn't do that because he never expected to run for President yet alone actually becoming one. Trump is a businessman who took all legal deductions for his businesses. He might have paid nothing in taxes because of the deductions for a year. That's the only thing the left is trying to get.

Not sure how letting American Citizens have representation in Congress is "cheating the country". There are more Americans in Puerto Rico than there are in fucking Wyoming. As far as reforming the courts, since we really haven't started having that debate in Congress (which will be the ultimate arbiter) there's no point taking a position on it now.
Sure there is. You either are going to do it or you're not. If he was not going to do it, he'd get a few million more votes by stating so. The reason he's not making a commitment is because he plans to rule against the will of the people and it would cost him the election. The US has been 50 states all of my life, and that's the way it should stay. The only reason Democrats are talking about it is because Democrats are liars and cheats. They will do anything to get or maintain power even against the will of the people. That's the dictator mentality of the left.

Actually, you don't seem to get the concept of how our courts work.
I know exactly how they work, you don't. In fact, Ted Cruz asked Mark Zuckerberg the same thing at his hearing. He asked Zuckerberg if he was aware that getting the tax returns was a federal felony. Yes, it was in reference to that phony NYT story that they had a decade of them which they allowed to remain posted on their site.

Again- Trump cheated SICK KIDS. Not, "Put the receipt in the wrong expense column"... HE CHEATED SICK KIDS. He was then banned from ever running a charity in New York again.
NY is a commie state, and that's why they hate Trump. Not one child was harmed by Trump using money from HIS OWN charity that dispersed nearly 20 million dollars to those children. But be honest for once in your life. It has nothing to do with children you could care less about, it has to do with your hatred of Trump.
 

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No, they said it had nothing to do with Russian disinformation.
No, they didn't. They said they had nothing to add. This is a Russian Hoax, buddy.

The reason he's not making a commitment is because he plans to rule against the will of the people and it would cost him the election. The US has been 50 states all of my life, and that's the way it should stay.
Guy, sorry, man, the US is going to be improved... giving those folks their fair representation is part of it...

Your version of America is dying, and no one is going to miss it.
 
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No, they didn't. They said they had nothing to add. This is a Russian Hoax, buddy.
Nothing to add means they do not dispute the DNI's findings that Russia had nothing to do with it.

Guy, sorry, man, the US is going to be improved... giving those folks their fair representation is part of it...

Your version of America is dying, and no one is going to miss it.
Yes, that's what I've heard.......for about 35 years now.

But here's the thing Joe: If you hate our capitalist free country, you can move to any of these socialist/ communist shitholes and try living there for a while. If you decide it's not what it's cracked up to be, you can always move back to the good ole USA.......if your new country of choice will let you. But once you people change this place, and find out it was a bad deal, there will be no USA to move to. It's gone forever. There is only one country like ours.
 

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Nothing to add means they do not dispute the DNI's findings that Russia had nothing to do with it.
NO, it means, "We know Ratcliffe is a political hack, and we aren't going to get into a public pissing contest with him over a laptop everyone else but Rudy has realized is a fake."
If it's fake sleepy Joe, then say that it's not your boy's tablet/laptop. Just say it Joe, say it, but you won't say it Joe because it's real.
 

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States run by Republican governors on average have economically outperformed states run by Democratic governors in recent months.

The difference in economic growth is likely due to the pathway of the coronavirus pandemic in the first few months and the economic restrictions imposed by Democratic governors.

Overall, Democratic-run states, particularly those in the Northeast and Midwest, had larger contractions in gross domestic product than Republican-run states in the Plains and the South, according to the latest state GDP data for the second quarter of 2020, released by the Commerce Department on Friday. Of the 20 states with the smallest decrease in state GDP, 13 were run by Republican governors, while the bottom 25 states with the highest decrease in state GDP were predominantly Democratic-run states.

Furthermore, the average unemployment rate across Republican states was 6.5% in August, compared to an average of 9% in Democrat states, according to an analysis of unemployment data by the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank.

There are multiple factors that lead to the split between the outcomes in Democratic and Republican states.

“The different economic shutdown policies and restrictions plays a big role,” said a senior economist in the Trump administration.

“But you also have to remember that in the second quarter, many Republican states hadn’t really been hit by the virus yet, like Texas, Arizona, and parts of Florida,” the official said. He said that Republican states were hit worse by the virus in the third quarter than the second, as the pandemic spread west and south.


“Also, the mix of industries in each state could also affect the economic growth, like Nevada, which is hugely dependent on travel and tourism,” the official added.


In spite of our dropping unemployment rate, the Democrats are still trying to tug the other way hoping to maintain a bad economy up to election day. We on the right have insisted this has been their plot all along, but the left are convinced by their puppet masters their leaders are stalling the economy for their own good.

Now that we have some results to look at, and what Biden said in his own words that he's be willing to shutdown the country if necessary, we have to ask ourselves if we want the entire country to be managed like these low performing blue states.

If you are a Trump hater, you have to ask yourself before voting: Do you hate Trump more than you love our country, or is it the other way around?
The unemployment rate is higher than the reported rats. Also even red states will have to have massive layoffs which will lead to further damage. What limited the economic damage was the large stimulus which was passed by Congress. Now Republicans are refusing to pass another bill. No less than the Fed chairman Jerome Powell says we need another large stimulus package. Republicans show they have no clue how to help the economy.

Biden said he would institute a national lockdown if the medical experts advised him to do so. That is what Trump should be doing rather than spreading the coronavirus.

A vote for Trump shows how much you hate this country. Trump represents the far right wing fascism that exists in this country.
You sir are living in opposite world.
You are living on Fantasy Island.

Democrats aka BLM
 
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Nothing to add means they do not dispute the DNI's findings that Russia had nothing to do with it.
NO, it means, "We know Ratcliffe is a political hack, and we aren't going to get into a public pissing contest with him over a laptop everyone else but Rudy has realized is a fake."
Why would they not say that if it's what they believe? The FBI is not running for office, and neither is Wray. They are perfectly free to make any statement they desire.

So the DNI stated there was nothing Russia about this laptop. The FBI doesn't disagree. CNN says it's Russian disinformation, and you believe CNN over two of our top investigative agencies. Now what did you say about Trump not listening to our experts again?????
 

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If it's fake sleepy Joe, then say that it's not your boy's tablet/laptop. Just say it Joe, say it, but you won't say it Joe because it's real.
Or you don't have to... because everyone knows it's a fake.

This is how evidence works,... Trump has to prove it's real, we don't have to prove it's fake.

Given that no third party has been allowed to inspect the computers or the hard drives, or that we don't know what the chain of custody was... they would be useless as evidence.
 

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Why would they not say that if it's what they believe? The FBI is not running for office, and neither is Wray. They are perfectly free to make any statement they desire.
Yeah, I guess. Let's not forget, Trump's official reason for firing Comey was that he had slandered Hillary with the last minute email thing, thinking he could get the Democrats to go along with it... (Then he blurted out it was because Comey was investigating his Russian Ties, because the man has no self-control.)

The FBI/DOJ rule is don't get involved in elections. Period.

So the DNI stated there was nothing Russia about this laptop. The FBI doesn't disagree. CNN says it's Russian disinformation, and you believe CNN over two of our top investigative agencies. Now what did you say about Trump not listening to our experts again?????
The DNI is a political hack. The FBI isn't getting invovled because they are just HOPING for the happy day when Trump and his idiots are gone.

But anyone with a lick of sense can see these are fakes... and not even good fakes, which is why every major new organization refused to touch this shit.
 
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Yeah, I guess. Let's not forget, Trump's official reason for firing Comey was that he had slandered Hillary with the last minute email thing, thinking he could get the Democrats to go along with it... (Then he blurted out it was because Comey was investigating his Russian Ties, because the man has no self-control.)

The FBI/DOJ rule is don't get involved in elections. Period.
Please post a credible link that Trump got rid of Comey because what he did to Hillary. He got rid of Comey for leaking to the NYT. He got rid of Comey because of what took place right under his nose with the lovers two. He got rid of Comey because he was part of the deep state.

The FBI rules are that they don't comment on an ongoing investigation which they claim this is. It's a money laundering operation by Hunter they are looking at since last year which evidence by Bobulinski shows Joe was also involved in.

The DNI is a political hack. The FBI isn't getting invovled because they are just HOPING for the happy day when Trump and his idiots are gone.

But anyone with a lick of sense can see these are fakes... and not even good fakes, which is why every major new organization refused to touch this shit.
They refuse to touch it because it would hurt their candidate. That's all. The MSM is nothing more than a mouthpiece and extension of the Democrat party. That's how biased our media is today.
 

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Please post a credible link that Trump got rid of Comey because what he did to Hillary. He got rid of Comey for leaking to the NYT. He got rid of Comey because of what took place right under his nose with the lovers two. He got rid of Comey because he was part of the deep state.
He got rid of Comey because Comey was investigating Russia, but if you read Rosenstein's letter firing him, it
cites his actions in handling Hilllary's case. This was Trump and Sessions trying to get Democrats to go along with the firing


The current FBI Director is an articulate and persuasive speaker about leadership and the immutable principles of the Department of Justice. He deserves our appreciation for his public service. As you and I have discussed, however, I cannot defend the Director's handling of the conclusion of the investigation of Secretary Clinton's emails, and I do not understand his refusal to accept the nearly universal judgment that he was mistaken. Almost everyone agrees that the Director made serious mistakes; it is one of the few issues that unites people of diverse perspectives.

Then Trump, being Trump, blurts out to Lester Holt is was about Russia, making poor Rod look kind of stupid.

They refuse to touch it because it would hurt their candidate. That's all. The MSM is nothing more than a mouthpiece and extension of the Democrat party. That's how biased our media is today.
Hey, check it out, the FBI has obtained Eric Trump's Laptop.

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Yeah, I guess. Let's not forget, Trump's official reason for firing Comey was that he had slandered Hillary with the last minute email thing, thinking he could get the Democrats to go along with it... (Then he blurted out it was because Comey was investigating his Russian Ties, because the man has no self-control.)

The FBI/DOJ rule is don't get involved in elections. Period.
Please post a credible link that Trump got rid of Comey because what he did to Hillary. He got rid of Comey for leaking to the NYT. He got rid of Comey because of what took place right under his nose with the lovers two. He got rid of Comey because he was part of the deep state.

The FBI rules are that they don't comment on an ongoing investigation which they claim this is. It's a money laundering operation by Hunter they are looking at since last year which evidence by Bobulinski shows Joe was also involved in.

The DNI is a political hack. The FBI isn't getting invovled because they are just HOPING for the happy day when Trump and his idiots are gone.

But anyone with a lick of sense can see these are fakes... and not even good fakes, which is why every major new organization refused to touch this shit.
They refuse to touch it because it would hurt their candidate. That's all. The MSM is nothing more than a mouthpiece and extension of the Democrat party. That's how biased our media is today.
The MSM is biased, because just like the government in hopes to use it's power or platforms to manipulate change, the job's or position's were targeted specifically by groups or individuals with specific goals in mind to use those positions gained, to then force change to occur. It has been a learned thing by these groups or individuals united. The problem with any of it, is that it has to use the position gained in a bid to use it to force change against the majority will. In some cases that is ok if you have a situation like slavery that had to be corrected, but that was the only thing that I think was an issue that needed to be corrected. After that it's worked out just fine without people having to take over government or our platforms to effect change by force against the majority. People need to wake up already, and look closely at what is being done or attempted to be done. Beware America, because things are being attempted to go to far against you, and it's not right.
 
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He got rid of Comey because Comey was investigating Russia, but if you read Rosenstein's letter firing him, it
cites his actions in handling Hilllary's case. This was Trump and Sessions trying to get Democrats to go along with the firing
There you go again Joe, posting links without reading them. First of all this supposed letter was written the day Comey was fired. I seriously doubt that Trump read this and fired him on that exact date. Secondly he listed several reasons to fire Comey, not just because of Hillary's emails. The one transcending part was how Comey was in bed with the deep state by telling the AG not to press charges against her when crimes were clearly committed. That has never been done in the history of this country.

Bill Clinton jumped on Lynch's plane to have a private discussion with her. She ordered everybody off the plane, and Bill told the press to keep this meeting to themselves. In that half-hour they talked about the Hillary case. Lynch told Bill she was in a bind. If she didn't bring charges against his wife, she would be called out on it. If she did, she would be outcasted from her party. Bill told her not to worry, the fix was in. All she had to do is make a public statement that she will follow the advice of the FBI director.

She made that public announcement, and on the completion of the investigation where Comey addressed the public, he got the AG off the hook as planned.

When asked, Bill stated they were only discussing their grandchildren on that plane. Turns out that Lynch never had any grandchildren. How did the AG of the United States know that the FBI director was going to instruct her on anything? It's never been done before.
 

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There you go again Joe, posting links without reading them. First of all this supposed letter was written the day Comey was fired. I seriously doubt that Trump read this and fired him on that exact date. Secondly he listed several reasons to fire Comey, not just because of Hillary's emails.
You claimed that his mishandling of the Emails wasn't a reason.
I just pointed out it was the MAIN reason given, although no one really believed that at the time.

The rest is a bunch of conspiracy theories from the Fox News Cinematic Universe, I don't waste my time on those.
 
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You claimed that his mishandling of the Emails wasn't a reason.
I just pointed out it was the MAIN reason given, although no one really believed that at the time.

The rest is a bunch of conspiracy theories from the Fox News Cinematic Universe, I don't waste my time on those.
No, I figured that out on my own. Fox or Rush had nothing to do with it, and I defy you to find somebody on any right-wing show who said the same thing I did. So tell me, how did the AG know that Comey was going to adviser her on how to do her job?

My claim was that it was far more than the emails. The emails were just one straw on the camels back, and your source is proof of that.
 

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