Zone1 Is swearing protected by freedom of speech and freedom of press?

[progressive hunter]

Yes. Individuals who choose to abuse power are exerting evil.

and yet here you are defending them,,

what does that make you??

 

[Mr. Friscus]

and yet here you are defending them,,

what does that make you??

I’m not defending individuals who abuse power. I’m saying all cops aren’t abusive, most aren’t.

You’re like the black activist claiming “systemic racism” because they have individual examples of people being racist. Those are 2 different things. Are you saying you don’t know the difference?

 

[progressive hunter]

I’m not defending individuals who abuse power. I’m saying all cops aren’t abusive, most aren’t.

You’re like the black activist claiming “systemic racism” because they have individual examples of people being racist. Those are 2 different things. Are you saying you don’t know the difference?

again trying to make it personal,, why is it so hard for you leftist to stick to the issue and not make it personal??

most may not be abusive,, but when they sit back and do nothing to stop the ones that are because of the thin blue line they are just as guilty just like any other accomplice,,

 

[Mr. Friscus]

again trying to make it personal,, why is it so hard for you leftist to stick to the issue and not make it personal??

LOL.. you called me a “leftist”. I’m very Conservative

most may not be abusive,,

Well it appears you’ve changed your stance to something more sensible.

but when they sit back and do nothing to stop the ones that are because of the thin blue line they are just as guilty just like any other accomplice,,

Well now you’re re-changing it.

So are abusers and all other cops bad? Or just the abusers? You keep circling

 

[progressive hunter]

LOL.. you called me a “leftist”. I’m very Conservative

Well it appears you’ve changed your stance to something more sensible.

Well now you’re re-changing it.

So are abusers and all other cops bad? Or just the abusers? You keep circling

defending abusive and unconstitutional law enforement is leftwing not rightwing,,

you may be to the right of dems but you are far from conservative on this issue,,

if a cop is wrongly arresting someone for a crime they didnt committ and their fellow officers do nothing while knowing its wrong they are just as guilty of that crime as any other accomplice would be

 

[Resnic]

Cursing should be protected freedom of speech.

But if our society fostered good morals, values and standards then swearing would be used appropriately and for places and times where it's acceptable.

We have the right to flip off cops, but it may not be wise. It may inspire the cops to find something to charge you with. Also ... you might beat the rap... but you are not going to beat the ride.

No one should be allowed to curse at cops, flip them off or provoke them at all. It should be a immediate 500 dollar fine and arrest if they don't stop right away.

The problem is when someone can act that way towards police it creates contempt for law enforcement and encourages other to act the same way towards them. After a while more and more people are flipping off cops then respect for law enforcement goes down the shitter and as that respect goes down crime goes up because people get ballsier.

People don't have to like the police but they should respect what law enforcement does for our society.

 

[progressive hunter]

No one should be allowed to curse at cops, flip them off or provoke them at all. It should be a immediate 500 dollar fine and arrest if they don't stop right away.

WHY??

what makes cops so special they need protected from bad words??

 

[Mr. Friscus]

defending abusive and unconstitutional law enforement is leftwing not rightwing,,

You haven’t identified what laws are unconstitutional

And I said abusive cops are bad, so you must be thinking of a different conversation.

But your attack of the institution of police is extremely leftist, and is lock step with deconstructionists and radical race BLM activists.

if a cop is wrongly arresting someone for a crime they didnt committ and their fellow officers do nothing while knowing its wrong they are just as guilty of that crime as any other accomplice would be

Do you think all other cops walk around knowing that a guy in their station is corrupt?

It might happen, but on a wide scale? I don’t.

Police are mostly brave, do-good individuals. You clearly have no respect for them in how you brand the entire institution with slanderous labels.

 

[Resnic]

WHY??

what makes cops so special they need protected from bad words??

Everything that you didn't quote I said, that's why.

You ignored my reasoning and omitted it from your quote

 

[progressive hunter]

You haven’t identified what laws are unconstitutional

And I said abusive cops are bad, so you must be thinking of a different conversation.

But your attack of the institution of police is extremely leftist, and is lock step with deconstructionists and radical race BLM activists.

Do you think all other cops walk around knowing that a guy in their station is corrupt?

It might happen, but on a wide scale? I don’t.

Police are mostly brave, do-good individuals. You clearly have no respect for them in how you brand the entire institution with slanderous labels.

I think the cops that stand and watch another cop violate their oaths and abuse someone are guilty,,


should a cop be able to arrest you for not showing ID when they ask you for it if you havent committed a crime?? more so when the cop admits you didnt committ a crime??

 

[progressive hunter]

Everything that you didn't quote I said, that's why.

You ignored my reasoning and omitted it from your quote

you do know freedom of speech was included in the BofRs specifically for talking to people of authority??

 

[Resnic]

you do know freedom of speech was included in the BofRs specifically for talking to people of authority??

Still doesn't address my reasoning. You're drifitng away from my point and turning unrelated questions back at me as a form of argument while still ignoring my original reasoning

Your arguments are always pointless so I'm not going to engage in it further.

I simply do not believe you should be able to provoke police because it leads to disrespect for the law and the more disrespect there is the more crime there. Which is plainly evidenced in recent years since George the dopehead criminal Floyd died and respect for law enforcement has done nothing but go downhill while crime has gone up. If you can't understand that correlation then I can't help you

 

[progressive hunter]

Still doesn't address my reasoning. You're drifitng away from my point and turning unrelated questions back at me as a form of argument while still ignoring my original reasoning

Your arguments are always pointless so I'm not going to engage in it further.

I simply do not believe you should be able to provoke police because it leads to disrespect for the law and the more disrespect there is the more crime there. Which is plainly evidenced in recent years since George the dopehead criminal Floyd died and respect for law enforcement has done nothing but go downhill while crime has gone up. If you can't understand that correlation then I can't help you

what you believe is irrelevant,, the 1st A was specifically for speaking out against authority,,

cops disrespect people everyday and nothing happens to them,,

you seem to forget they work for us and the constitution,,
]if I want to flip them off or tell them to fuck off thats my right,,

only a wanna be authoritarian would want the people to be subservient to authority,,

I wonder,, you want people arrested for flipping off cops,, what about POTUS?? should people be arrested for flipping them off or calling them pedophiles??

 

[Mr. Friscus]

I think the cops that stand and watch another cop violate their oaths and abuse someone are guilty,,

How many is that?

should a cop be able to arrest you for not showing ID when they ask you for it if you havent committed a crime?? more so when the cop admits you didnt committ a crime??

No.

 

[progressive hunter]

How many is that?

No.

doesnt matter how many,,

but I can post hundreds of videos where cops either outright lie or overstep their authority with other cops just standing there watching,,

and most of those are for what you just said they cant do,,

 

[Blues Man]

That’s just destructive hyperbole IMO. If the police institution is worthless, go move somewhere where there’s no police, and see how that goes for you.

I think you know it would be hell, because human behavior itself isn’t kind when unchecked.

It’s easy to sit in first world paradise and make bold claims. It’s why leftism can even exist in the first place

I do live where there is virtually no police force. There are only a couple State Gestapo assigned to the town and we never see them and the crime rate in my county is near zero.

SCOTUS has ruled that the cops have absolutely no legal obligation to come to the aid of the public so putting your safety in the hands of the police is just as stupid as believing anything a cop tells you.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

doesnt matter how many,,

Ratios matter. If 1% of a population does something, it’s not the same as if 75% of a population does it. Do you disagree?

but I can post hundreds of videos where cops either outright lie or overstep their authority with other cops just standing there watching,,

There are hundreds of thousands of police officers having tens to hundreds of interactions with the public every day.. so “hundreds of videos” is still a drop in the bucket, even if they are all clear abuse. No need to condemn all police for it.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

I do live where there is virtually no police force. There are only a couple State Gestapo assigned to the town and we never see them and the crime rate in my county is near zero.

Small towns can get away with smaller police forces.. but you still have one, and if you didn’t have one at all the bad people would take advantage. The threat of police intervention goes a long way, in a good way.

SCOTUS has ruled that the cops have absolutely no legal obligation to come to the aid of the public so putting your safety in the hands of the police is just as stupid as believing anything a cop tells you.

So then why do so many cops go out of their way to aid the public?

 

[progressive hunter]

Ratios matter. If 1% of a population does something, it’s not the same as if 75% of a population does it. Do you disagree?

There are hundreds of thousands of police officers having tens to hundreds of interactions with the public every day.. so “hundreds of videos” is still a drop in the bucket, even if they are all clear abuse. No need to condemn all police for it.

tell that to the people whos lives were ruined because of a bad cop,,

sounds more like youre saying it didnt happen to me so why should I care,,,

 

[Mr. Friscus]

tell that to the people whos lives were ruined because of a bad cop,,

sounds more like youre saying it didnt happen to me so why should I care,,,

You’re living in the land of extreme examples and exceptions to the rule. It’s a weak place to sit. But hey it’s your opinion and you’re welcome to it. We can agree to disagree.