Is suicide ever a viable option?

[Procrustes Stretched]

Is suicide ever a viable option?

I mean s it?

Not a joke or a ...

 

[sparky]

hospice sets folks up for it......~S~

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

hospice sets folks up for it......~S~

I'm not asking about that

But I respect that shit,

 

[Michael1985]

There are no cases under which I advocate for it, but if one is terminally ill and about to die anyhow, then I could understand it. I do not agree with "assisted suicide" or "euthanasia" or whatever term one wishes to use because if people wish to end their life on their terms, it should also be the responsibility of the individuals themselves to carry that out, and not up to the state or to medical professionals who have a duty to preserve life to do that for them.

 

[LuckyDuck]

I recall a wheelchair bound vet in our local Veteran's Hospital who roamed along the halls asking for someone to kill him. He had late-stage Pancreatic Cancer. This is the worst type to have, as no amount of pain meds can diminish the pain.
So, suicide should be allowed for terminally-ill patients.
As for people suffering with depression, there are medications as well as other treatments for it now.

 

[gtopa1]

Is suicide ever a viable option?

I mean s it?

Not a joke or a ...

No!!!

Greg

 

[Esdraelon]

I'm not asking about that

But I respect that shit,

It is always a possible option but the suffering that causes someone to look for that way of "relief" may often have other ways out. I was at the point of suicide about 11 years ago. I was suffering from chronic, major depression. I decided to give things just one more chance and I'm very glad that I did. The last 10 years have been some of the best of my life.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Is suicide ever a viable option?

I mean s it?

Not a joke or a ...

Yes, it is.

A lot of people are emotional and will say no.

But really, what's the point of living if you're totally fed up with everything?

We can talk about life, what is it? Is it really what we think it is? Probably not. We're biological beings who are dictated to by the drugs in our bodies and the way we were brought up.

For me personally I've been to places in my life where suicide seemed like the best option. I never actually tried suicide, but it's been on my mind, and when I get old, if things go bad, I'll probably end it.

I mean, what's the point of being old, nothing to look forward to, and experience pain every day?

 

[Muhammed]

Is suicide ever a viable option?

I mean s it?

Not a joke or a ...

I believe it is to relieve intractable end of life pain when even the strongest pain medications no longer help.

The problem I have is when the government encourages people to consent to euthanasia. Death panels. That kind of shit.

Hell, in Canada 3% of deaths are now government sponsored euthanasia.

That needs to stop, or the USA needs to intervene and annex Canada.

 

[luiza]

I'm not asking about that

But I respect that shit,

But that is exactly what you asked for .
That is , as you well know , assisted suicide .
Death as comfortable and as smooth as it can ever presumably be made .
Something that a balanced person would never refuse if able to think clearly .

You do not refuse to see a Specialist when chronically ill because you do not believe or do not see the advantages of specialist treatment and expertise .
Why on earth does suicide warrant thinking differently ?

 

[shockedcanadian]

Is suicide ever a viable option?

I mean s it?

Not a joke or a ...

It is always a personal choice but no, you are destroying G-ds creation. Live and let live or your soul will suffer. The will to live must outweigh all other concerns.

 

[sparky]

I recall a wheelchair bound vet in our local Veteran's Hospital who roamed along the halls asking for someone to kill him. He had late-stage Pancreatic Cancer. This is the worst type to have, as no amount of pain meds can diminish the pain.
So, suicide should be allowed for terminally-ill patients.
As for people suffering with depression, there are medications as well as other treatments for it now.

[haz been]
terminals often are frequent flyers before departing their mortal coil in the ICU

they'd be taken for a rides into the ER , monthly turned into weekly towards the end

we'd watch as they'd slowly wither away , loose their independence along with their dignity

Many lost it all while battling a predatory medical hierarchy , useless pharmacabal, and soul less insurance companies.

One run, maintaining my game face, i asked "what else can we do for you sir?"

He managed to croak out "Got a gun?"

WWYD?
[/haz been]

 

[Dadoalex]

Is suicide ever a viable option?

I mean s it?

Not a joke or a ...

Of course it is.

Culturally we have a fear of death and an aversion to suicide. This can be partially traced to how Christianity is practiced in this country and does inform our cultural and legal attitudes toward suicide.

But can be a rational choice driven by events and conditions.

People have bought up situations where the person is terminally ill and in pain that cannot be relieved.
My grandmother made the choice to refuse end of life care that may have extended her life by several months. In doing so she was, in effect, tortured to death by refusing her medical care and food. I think, if she could have chosen suicide, she would have.

As long as the choice is not made in an effort to defraud insurance companies it should be everyone's private and personal choice.

 

[the watcher]

End of life care has been weaponized by the pharma and medicare as another transfer of accumulated wealth. Like the estate tax laws, to come under medical care of the government you must divest yourself of all property and have no assets before you are eligible, sort of like the Branch Davidians. People should have the option of how they end their life, not to pass on your suffering through a terrible prolonging of life for a few weeks. That devastates the family emotionally and financially, and accomplishes nothing. I would like to see a figure placed on end of like costs in dollars for every citizen, and this used to help a family determine how to proceed. Use your $__. life credit to continue treatment or opt for a dignified death and return that amount to survivors. You should have made up a living will stating your wishes right now, This money could be a contribution like social security used to be or funded by whatever version of medicare that survives the current abuse. In other words, keep the government out of the process if that is possible.

 

[sparky]

Medicaid spend down anyone???


~S~

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

And to avoid all the stupid arguing... sure.

 

[whitehall]

A viable option over what? Living? No, it's not a viable option.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

I believe it is to relieve intractable end of life pain when even the strongest pain medications no longer help.

The problem I have is when the government encourages people to consent to euthanasia. Death panels. That kind of shit.

Hell, in Canada 3% of deaths are now government sponsored euthanasia.

That needs to stop, or the USA needs to intervene and annex Canada.

Death panels? Oh no! Call FOX News.

 

[Mr Natural]

A viable option over what? Living? No, it's not a viable option.

There’s a big difference between living and being alive.

 

[the watcher]

A viable option over what? Living? No, it's not a viable option.

What happened to my body my choice? Is that just for some people?