Is "Sorek" desalination technology the only way to save vulnerable real estate from rising ocean levels?

[DennisPTate]

My apologies if I am in error but it is my belief that a Carbon Tax will do essentially NOTHING to prevent ocean levels from rising?

My belief is that mega-scale desalination projects similar to "Sorek" that are fuelled by natural gas are the only practical technology at this time that could be used to put a comparable amount of desalinated H2O into the deserts of this world as well could soon begin to crack and slide off the LAND BASED Greenland Ice Sheets?

I love the look of the existing Solar powered desalination technology BUT it seems also clear to me that this technology cannot even handle what needs to be done along the Mediterranean Sea near the Sahara Desert?

I would love to be incorrect in this belief but am I?

About​

The Sorek desalination plant is one of a kind and the largest seawater desalination plant operating with 16’’ elements in a unique vertical arrangement.

It provides potable water for millions of people, comprising 20% of the municipal water demand in Israel, thus greatly contributing to the country’s water system resilience (while minimizing the environmental impact).

In 2018 IDE sold Sorek 1 desalination plant to Dan Capital. The sale was required under a deal agreed by IDE with antitrust (competition) authorities allowing IDE to bid on a BOT tender for a second SWRO desalination plant at Soreq.

• Capacity: 640,000 m³/day
• Technology: Reverse Osmosis (RO)
• Water Source: Seawater
• Contract type: BOT For 25 years
• Usage: Potable Water
• Location: Rishon Le Zion, Israel
• Customer: Israel Water Authority
• Commissioning date: 2013

Sorek I Desalination Plant (Israel) | IDE Tech

The Sorek desalination plant is one of the world's largest SWRO facilities. It sets global standards in seawater reverse osmosis.

ide-tech.com

 

[task0778]

I don't have a whole lot of pity for those who build residences on a beach somewhere. Sometimes there are consequences for being stupid.

Re the desalination projects, I got no problem with private money going into something like that but not our taxdollars, at least until the project is feasible. No more bullet trains and bridges to nowhere.

 

[DennisPTate]

I don't have a whole lot of pity for those who build residences on a beach somewhere. Sometimes there are consequences for being stupid.

Re the desalination projects, I got no problem with private money going into something like that but not our taxdollars, at least until the project is feasible. No more bullet trains and bridges to nowhere.

That is an excellent way of looking at all of this task0778. There really should be no need for taxpayer dollars to finance this because it seems pretty obvious to me that until rising ocean levels are seen along the Bay of Fundy, [where the world's highest tides occur], then it is obvious that even island nations are not yet in serious danger.



"Physics question related to the geography of the Bay of Fundy?"

"If average ocean levels were to rise by ten centimeters.... .would
the multiplier effect of the geography of the Bay of Fundy continue?

The fact that the Bay of Fundy funnels tidal waters plus......
it is over 170 miles long, (274 kms), it produces high tide level that are tenX to fifteenX over the difference in tidal waters where I live.

So... could high tide levels near TRuro, N. S. to Moncton, N. B. be up by a meter or more if average ocean levels were to rise by ten centimeters?" [Dennis Tate, March 7, 2021]

The Bay of Fundy, Canada, boasts the world's highest tides, with water levels rising up to 16 meters (52 feet) due to its unique funnel shape and natural resonance with Atlantic ocean tides. Twice daily, this dramatic shift exposes vast ocean floors, allowing people to walk on them at low tide and see formations like Hopewell Rocks, while the incoming tide creates powerful "tidal bores" that flow upstream, a spectacle of massive water movement, according to sources like this YouTube video and this Parks Canada page

 

[GLASNOST]

Should the Turks and Caicos Islands join Canada?​

No. Turks should go to Turkey and the Caicos Islands should go to the Cacao mainland.

 

[EMH]

Show us a photo of "ocean rise" or admit there isn't one ongoing now...

Do we need all the old photos of Lady Liberty again to prove oceans are not rising?

 

[ReinyDays]

If it's valuable farmland, then it already has water ... and a levee system to keep it dry ...

 

[DennisPTate]

Show us a photo of "ocean rise" or admit there isn't one ongoing now...

Do we need all the old photos of Lady Liberty again to prove oceans are not rising?

I admit that ocean levels have not risen in the past but that is because the GROWTH of Antarctica Ice, the ADDITION of huge amounts of H2O to Antarctica are a part of the formula that the political left do not want to become common knowledge.

The amount of H2O that has cracked off the LAND BASED Greenland Ice Sheet plus the ice that has melted off the world glaciers has been equaled so far, by the addition of ice being added to Antarctica.

By the time that trend changes we need to be able to turn deserts green on a massive scale. The Technology is certainly here already and will be improved over time.

 

[Dekster]

The last time the planet had a fever, Florida was underwater and Virginia Beach was 90 miles further inland. De-sal is not going to stop that if the ice melts off again.

 

[EMH]

The amount of H2O that has cracked off the LAND BASED Greenland Ice Sheet plus the ice that has melted off the world glaciers has been equaled so far, by the addition of ice being added to Antarctica.

Humans do two things that are pushing ocean levels higher.

1. burn hydrocarbons, byproducts CO2 and H2O, you added water to Earth
2. "tonnage displacement" of ocean water - boats, cruise ships, aircraft carriers, nuke subs, and everything smaller, plus structures like oil rigs, piers, and China making a island etc.


Those two are masking the truth that 97% of Earth ice on Antarctica and Greenland has been growing every year for the past million years (AA 40 million) and will continue to do so until the land moves more than 600 miles from the pole.

All of that adds up to zero visible change in ocean levels for the past century.

 

[elektra]

Nobody's home is at risk of rising sea levels.
Stupidity

 

[DennisPTate]

Humans do two things that are pushing ocean levels higher.

1. burn hydrocarbons, byproducts CO2 and H2O, you added water to Earth
2. "tonnage displacement" of ocean water - boats, cruise ships, aircraft carriers, nuke subs, and everything smaller, plus structures like oil rigs, piers, and China making a island etc.


Those two are masking the truth that 97% of Earth ice on Antarctica and Greenland has been growing every year for the past million years (AA 40 million) and will continue to do so until the land moves more than 600 miles from the pole.

All of that adds up to zero visible change in ocean levels for the past century.

True, over the last century the amount of melting off the land based Greenland Ice Sheet and the world glaciers all went to Antarctica, which mean essentially zero ocean level rise.

I see desalination though as one of the only ways to divert The World Economic Forum away from their goals.

The World Economic Forum has been explicit about its ambitions. Climate is not merely an environmental issue to be addressed; it is the justification for what Klaus Schwab calls "stakeholder capitalism"--a reorganization of the relationship between corporations, governments, and citizens that would subordinate democratic accountability to technocratic management.

Whether one views this as visionary or dystopian, the financial stakes are clear: climate has become an asset class, carbon a currency, and sustainability a compliance regime worth hundreds of billions annually. It also provide a powerful justification for globalist, totalitarian, biopolitical control of the world's citizenry. The question of whether the climate is changing has been absorbed into a much larger question: who benefits from the answer?

Climate Change Is Real -- But the Narrative Is Fatally Incomplete

The Missing Context Behind the World’s Most Powerful Narrative

greenmedinfo.com

 

[EMH]

the amount of melting off the land based Greenland Ice Sheet

Greenland has grown a new "ice core layer" of ice every year. How is that "melting?" IT isn't. Greenland's ice south of Arctic Circle does melt during summer, but there is no "retreat" and the Viking villages are still under 600 layers of ice.

Greenland also calves icebergs, which are actually still frozen when released into ocean.

Greenland is not melting. It won't melt until it moves more than 600 miles from North Pole.

Thread 'Mr. Trump is a master at valuing real estate. He needs a lecture on "What is a continent specific ice age" before he buys Greenland'

Jan 17, 2025

Donald Trump is a good man. I skated several times on that Central Park Ice Rink. Thank you, Donald Trump, for your "help" with that.

Donald Trump is a real estate guru. There is no denying that. The man knows how to value property. And those on a rigged jury in NY do NOT.

On the subject of Greenland, we have a lot of misinfo about "climate stuff." Arctic Ocean is growing. That is why Arctic Sea Ice is going down. When it was a nice tight area around North Pole, the sea ice was safe. Now, it is further out, and more water comes in and out of Arctic Ocean. For the 2005 and 2007...

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[DennisPTate]

Greenland has grown a new "ice core layer" of ice every year. How is that "melting?" IT isn't. Greenland's ice south of Arctic Circle does melt during summer, but there is no "retreat" and the Viking villages are still under 600 layers of ice.

Greenland also calves icebergs, which are actually still frozen when released into ocean.

Greenland is not melting. It won't melt until it moves more than 600 miles from North Pole.

Thread 'Mr. Trump is a master at valuing real estate. He needs a lecture on "What is a continent specific ice age" before he buys Greenland'

Jan 17, 2025

Donald Trump is a good man. I skated several times on that Central Park Ice Rink. Thank you, Donald Trump, for your "help" with that.

Donald Trump is a real estate guru. There is no denying that. The man knows how to value property. And those on a rigged jury in NY do NOT.

On the subject of Greenland, we have a lot of misinfo about "climate stuff." Arctic Ocean is growing. That is why Arctic Sea Ice is going down. When it was a nice tight area around North Pole, the sea ice was safe. Now, it is further out, and more water comes in and out of Arctic Ocean. For the 2005 and 2007...

• EMH
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This is an astonishingly helpful comment to this topic. I truly appreciate this information EMH.

Probably it was around fifteen years ago when I saw a documentary about Greenland online where it was stated that the ice on the top of Greenland was becoming dark, [especially during the summer], and thus the Greenland Ice Sheet was absorbing a greater amount of solar energy / heat.

The documentary was well done and it was shown that lakes would form during June, July, August and even into September, ON TOP of the Greenland ice Sheet and within a few days or weeks these lakes would disappear because they had gone down through a crack in the ice and were now UNDER the ice and they were lubricating the Greenland Ice Sheet and making it more and more and more prone to a large scale event where a huge number of ice bergs, [yes, still frozen ice bergs], could have a major CALVING event where many ice bergs would slide and flow into the North Atlantic Ocean off the coast of Greenland.

If certain aspects of this are being reversed then I consider that to be wonderful news, but that documentary was well done and it is hard for me to imagine that the major theme of that documentary was somehow entire invalidated.

In 2008 when Mr. Peter MacKay campaigned to become our Member of Parliament again I heard him speak at the Indian Harbour Lake Community Centre and he referred to a recent trip that he had to Canada's Arctic where he visited the troops. It had been in September, [I believe of 2008 or 2007], and he testified that the Arctic was indeed warming because Canadian troops were playing soccer while he was there and they were playing shorts, in September, [that could not have happened during the 1980's or even during the 1990!

Everybody in the Arctic knows that Canada's Arctic is warming significantly and there must be some sort of consequences to this.

I have found that it is actually fairly easy to get into contact even with famous people if we get onto the correct line of reasoning. Please imagine YOU as an actor playing the role of you and you volunteer a lot of writing designed to assist Canada's Mr. Peter MacKay and his wife to become spokespersons on the entire topic of "How Best to Stabilize the Climate?" and you fit the whole thing in with a suggestion that fits with Phase 2 or Phase 3 of "The Abraham Accords" so Mr. and Mrs. Peter MacKay and his wife Mrs. Afshing Jam MacKay become actors playing the role of themselves, and we all attempt to set them up to grab the attention of President Donald J. Trump and his entire team because it seems to me that turning deserts green through mega-scale desalination of sea water is a win, win, win, win, win scenario for ten million Israelis, for all Americans who own real estate vulnerable to the possible Eventual threat of rising ocean levels AS WELL AS FOR THE ONE BILLION OR MORE ISLAMIC NEIGHBOURS TO ISAREL WHO BELIEVE IN THE FOLLOWING ISLAMIC HADITH:


Will world peace begin with immigrants from many nations who go to Canada and find out ways to address the root causes of the conflicts that were going on in the nations that they left?

[DennisTate] :
"I am hopeful that this will be the case, for example, immigrants to Canada from the Middle East may be able to turn the world away from the Al Gore Carbon Tax Theory and the Bill Gates, "Innovation to zero" emissions theory, and instead adopt the more down to earth approach to Climate Change advocated in the Jewish, Islamic and Christian scriptures as well as by a New Mexico biologist and coach.

Here is an ancient Islamic prediction that sounds like a brilliant response to both the threat of rising ocean levels... as well as to the Economic Crisis that it appears some influential people seem to want to occur."

Book 005, Number 2208:
"Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) as saying: The Last Hour will not come before wealth becomes abundant and overflowing, so much so that a man takes Zakat out of his property and cannot find anyone to accept it from him and till the land of Arabia becomes meadows and rivers."
SAHIH MUSLIM, BOOK 25: The Book on General Behaviour (Kitab Al-Adab)

Assisting nine point four million Israelis and their one billion or so Islamic neighbours, to divert investment away from warfare and instead into large scale desalination of ocean water for
agriculture, reforestation projects and to make life better for everybody who lives in the Middle East will lead to
the fulfillment of Isaiah chapter thirty five. This fits with the Jewish concept of Tikkun Olam.

.. "Tikkun olam (Hebrew: תִּיקּוּן עוֹלָם, lit. 'repair of the world') is a concept in Judaism, interpreted by some within Orthodox
Judaism as the prospect of overcoming all forms of idolatry, and by other Jewish thinkers such as Reform Judaism as an
aspiration to behave and act constructively and beneficially." (Tikkun Olam, Wikipedia)

... "The wilderness and the solitary place shall be glad for them; and the desert shall rejoice, and blossom as the rose.
It shall blossom abundantly, and rejoice even with joyand singing: the glory of Lebanon shall be given unto it, the
excellency of Carmel and Sharon, they shall see the glory of the LORD, and the excellency of our God.

....
Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongueof the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out,
and streams in the desert.
And the parched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water: in the habitation of dragons,where
each lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes." (Isaiah 35 : 1, 2, 6, 7 ).

A New Mexico biologist and coach wrote up an alternative theory on stabilization of the climate that fits well with these ancient Islamic and Jewish predictions for the last decades and centuries of human history before our Creator gives us a utopian world where the Holy Spirit is poured out on all flesh.

New Mexico biologist and coach Carl Cantrell.....

[New Mexico biologist and bicycling coach, Carl Cantrell]
"So how is our problem of continental drying causing global warming? It all has to do with vegetation and sunlight. When sun light hits a plant, it causes a process which we call photosynthesis where the energy from the sun light creates oxygen for us to breath, water for us to drink, and is stored as sugar for plants and animals to use. When the same sun light hits the soil, all of its energy turns into heat and is radiated back into the atmosphere, carried away by running surface water such as rain fall, is carried away to other areas by our winds, and diffuses down into the soil towards the earth's crust. All of this warms our planet increasing its average temperature.

Therefore, the less vegetation you have on the planet, the more sunlight is being turned into heat and the warmer the planet becomes. This is very critical because warmer and dryer winds dry out other land areas faster decreasing the vegetation on those land areas. Less humidity in the air also reflects less sun light back out into space so that more sun light strikes the earth and more heat is generated.

The truth is that you can do more to decrease global warming by just reducing the average temperature for the Sahara Desert by one or two degrees than if we humans completely quit using fossil fuels and returned to the cave.

So, how would you start working to resolve this problem? Easy, cool the deserts and get some vegetation growing on them as soon as possible. But the method is much more complex than that. You have to use the prevailing trade winds in relation to the deserts to get the best results as quickly as possible and it will be extremely expensive.

Then we build desalination plants along the coast near these water sheds and pipe water to the tops or ridges of the water sheds

This will do a number of things. First, it will increase the moisture in the desert soil so that it will develop water tables and water will begin to run in the streams. This water will increase the amount of vegetation in the area and decrease the amount of heat being generated by sun light cooling the watered area and all areas down wind of the watered area. As more available water evaporates, it will cool the air and reflect more sun light back out into space cooling the area even more. Cooler and more humid air will have less of a heating effect on areas down wind and will reflect more sun light back into space in those areas cooling areas we won't be watering yet. Cooler and more humid air will also have less of a warming effect on our seas and oceans.

Rain water running off of cooler soil will decrease the heating effect on our oceans and our planet crusts which will decrease catastrophic storm activities for other areas and seismic activity for the entire planet. Also, returning more ocean water to the surface and aquifers of our continents will lower the sea levels providing more usable land for us to farm and build on.

With cooler desert areas and increasing vegetation, less water will evaporate from our deserts increasing the amount of surface water even more and increasing the amount of vegetation and animal life by huge amounts because deserts currently take up more than 20% of our land surface. Populations will be able to spread out and there will be less competition for existing land areas.

This strategy has to be done in steps with the first step being to begin slowing the rate at which our global warming is increasing. We need to focus on that until we have brought it to a point to where the temperature is not increasing any more and is reasonably stable. While we are doing this, we need to come to a global consensus of just how cool we want to cool our planet down to. If we cool it down too much, we will begin to have devastatingly harsh winters in large populated areas and even cause an ice age to set in.

Then we begin cooling the planet down to a point which will be most beneficial for all countries or the planet as a whole. We need to gradually bring the temperature down because there may be a lag effect in which the planet will continue cooling after we stop increasing our efforts to cool it off more. We may even want to stop cooling the planet once or twice before we reach our targeted temperatures to see if there is a lag effect


We need to start working on this as soon as possible because, if the planet reaches a point to where it is warming faster than our technology can possibly stop or reverse this warming trend, then our planet is lost and all life will cease to exist on this planet within a relatively short period of time. We will need to start with the largest and hottest deserts because cooling them will have the greatest benefit in the least time. (Global Warming II by biologist Carl Cantrell).

EMH, here is a discussion about a famous Canadian who I know that I know that I know that he and his wife can assist you with this.

Please imagine one county in Ontario, Canada producing a reality film series that is combined with a semi-reality science fiction film series that takes place in the year or so when Mr. Peter MacKay campaigned to become the national leader of Canada's Conservative Party. Terming this "Semi-Reality Science Fiction" would give us almost total Artistic License to come up with all kinds of ideas, where Mrs. and Mrs. Peter MacKay star as THEMSELVES!

Thread 'I owe Mr. Peter MacKay an apology for the way I voted in 2008!'

Dec 15, 2025

Generally speaking I pretty much always voted for Mr. Peter MacKay every time that he campaigned, [with two notable exceptions, his first ever campaign in which I had really no idea who he was and then in 2008 when I received a personal message through Facebook as a reply to my 2008 campaign writing, from Green Party Leader Ms. Elizabeth May that "turning deserts green is one part of a full response to climate change" after which I argued with myself for several days and then on election day 2008 I ended up voting for Ms. Elizabeth May!

If I am not mistaken even Mr. Peter MacKay will get...

• DennisPTate
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[DennisPTate]

The last time the planet had a fever, Florida was underwater and Virginia Beach was 90 miles further inland. De-sal is not going to stop that if the ice melts off again.

You could be correct, I don't for sure but an astonishing amount of desalinated H2O would be needed even to fill the depleted underground aquifers in many arid nations.

 

[EMH]

it is hard for me to imagine that the major theme of that documentary was somehow entire invalidated.

They try to lie about such things because the truth is that Greenland froze while North America thawed for any time in the past million years until now and it is still ongoing since Ellesmere is slowly losing ice, while Greenland continues to gain ice. Once the people accept

Greenland froze while North America thawed


that proves atmosphere, and hence CO2 in the atmosphere, is not the cause.

that the Arctic was indeed warming

The Arctic Ocean is growing, pushing NA, Europe, and Asia away from North Pole. As a polar region loses land and gains ocean, it warms. The one "fly in the ointment" is Greenland, which is now 90% of the ice in the Arctic. But yeah, Europe, Asia, and NA are all moving away from the pole and hence warming.

50 million years ago there was no ice in the Antarctic Circle. There is now 8 million cubic miles of it. That dramatically cooled both Antarctic Circle and Earth. Air that passes over Antarctic Circle is 50F colder than air that passes over Arctic Circle. Antarctic Circle calves or puts 10 times the ice, 46 times the molecular H2O of what Mississippi River dumps in Gulf, into the oceans, and the Antarctic ice is colder than the Arctic ice.


Think of it this way. Earth is a "room" with two "AC units" Arctic and Antarctic, each with settings

0 = off (no land there, no ice)

10 = maxCOOL (a larger continent on the pole than Antarctica)

right now Arctic is set at 1 and Antarctic is set at 9...

Greenland is 7% of Earth ice, AA is 90% (Ellesmere is 0.3%). Clearly, as land moves tectonically, the amount of ice changes with it.

Two polar oceans = Earth has little to no ice = warmer, wetter, higher surface air pressure

Two polar continents = Two "Antarcticas" = colder, drier, lower surface air pressure


Those are the parameters of Earth climate change, and why Earth never freezes completely or burns up.

 

[EMH]

Everybody in the Arctic knows that Canada's Arctic is warming significantly and there must be some sort of consequences to this.

North America is moving out of the 600 miles to the pole "Ice Age Zone" and that's what happens.

This is North America 3 million years ago, with over 5 million cubic miles of ice, what was called North American Ice Age before 2012...

 

[DennisPTate]

North America is moving out of the 600 miles to the pole "Ice Age Zone" and that's what happens.

This is North America 3 million years ago, with over 5 million cubic miles of ice, what was called North American Ice Age before 2012...

Your explanation for this phenomena is one of the best ones that I have ever found online. Thank you EMH for letting me know about this aspect of this entire colossal subject.

 

[EMH]

Your explanation for this phenomena is one of the best ones that I have ever found online. Thank you EMH for letting me know about this aspect of this entire colossal subject.

It really is quite simple. An ice age happens when land moves within 600 miles of a pole. There, the annual snowfall ceases to melt during summer, and hence starts to stack. And it won't stop stacking until it moves more than 600 miles away from the pole. All of the major parts, really 99%, of Earth climate change (in the current setting: orbit, day length, and Sun energy) is about those continent specific ice ages.

CO2 FRAUD was completely busted in 2007, but W sold out.

In 2010, the next one "went silent" for two years..

Google Search

and then bought beachfront property on an island last hit by Cat 5 gusts in 1938....


homO didn't stop there. She gave the FBI case to the CO2 FRAUD, and they "converted" North American Ice Age into "Milankovich Cycles."

This is a very clear debate on that subject, how old was 2.5 mile thick ice near Chicago during NAIA... and it isn't close, the Milankovich is all laughable BS, fudge to stop the truth that Greenland froze while North America thawed at the same time with the same atmosphere and Sun...

Thread 'How old were the 2.5 mile thick glaciers covering Chicago in the past 20k-5 million years?'

May 15, 2023

This is where the climate debate is now stuck.

Every piece of land within 600 miles of a pole is in ice age, everything outside of that is not. Nobody has attempted to dispute that. It is the clear truth of Earth today.

Milankovitch Cycles, which I call McBullshit Cycles, take a very "Dennis Quaid" approach to ice ages - they are lightning fast, quick, and agile. They come and go really fast.

Since 2010, Milankovitch has replaced "North American Ice Age" with the claim that the ice on Chicago recently that was 2.5 miles thick was only 75k years old.

Really....

My side, which is...

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[DennisPTate]

It really is quite simple. An ice age happens when land moves within 600 miles of a pole. There, the annual snowfall ceases to melt during summer, and hence starts to stack. And it won't stop stacking until it moves more than 600 miles away from the pole. All of the major parts, really 99%, of Earth climate change (in the current setting: orbit, day length, and Sun energy) is about those continent specific ice ages.

CO2 FRAUD was completely busted in 2007, but W sold out.

In 2010, the next one "went silent" for two years..

Google Search

and then bought beachfront property on an island last hit by Cat 5 gusts in 1938....


homO didn't stop there. She gave the FBI case to the CO2 FRAUD, and they "converted" North American Ice Age into "Milankovich Cycles."

This is a very clear debate on that subject, how old was 2.5 mile thick ice near Chicago during NAIA... and it isn't close, the Milankovich is all laughable BS, fudge to stop the truth that Greenland froze while North America thawed at the same time with the same atmosphere and Sun...

Thread 'How old were the 2.5 mile thick glaciers covering Chicago in the past 20k-5 million years?'

May 15, 2023

This is where the climate debate is now stuck.

Every piece of land within 600 miles of a pole is in ice age, everything outside of that is not. Nobody has attempted to dispute that. It is the clear truth of Earth today.

Milankovitch Cycles, which I call McBullshit Cycles, take a very "Dennis Quaid" approach to ice ages - they are lightning fast, quick, and agile. They come and go really fast.

Since 2010, Milankovitch has replaced "North American Ice Age" with the claim that the ice on Chicago recently that was 2.5 miles thick was only 75k years old.

Really....

My side, which is...

• EMH
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So is a build up of snow and ice happening in Siberia these past years?

 

[EMH]

So is a build up of snow and ice happening in Siberia these past years?

They may get more snow from one year to the other, but it all melts during summer.

Siberia is not inside 600 miles to the pole, nor attached to land that is. Hence Siberia is not in ice age.


NOT IN ICE AGE

IN ICE AGE