SweetSue92
Diamond Member
You should send that essay to the people in Italy and Spain. I'm sure they'd appreciate it.All of them if it saves my child.So which one of those relatives are you willing to offer up as a sacrifice to the economy?Or what if your child was a front line healthcare worker who had to care for the fools who think jobs are more important than life? Would that change anything?Easy too say, but what if that one death is you your child your parent, would that change the value?
Who said jobs are more important than life? We are talking lives vs. lives....do you understand what a Great Depression means for the country and for the world? How many lives will be lost going forward vs. what is now proving likely to be a bad seasonal flu number? And yes....all the models are being pulled back.........look at the news......
Can you see the effects on 10s of millions of people who have no jobs, no money for a decade? Do you understand what that means for people dying from stress, suicide, alcohol and drug abuse?
I have relatives on the front lines of this too........so virtue signaling on your part has no weight.
None, which of the millions going forward are you willing to sacrifice ....who will also die because everyone over reacted to a virus that will likely not be worse than the seasonal flu? Which of those people will you kill?
Virtue signaling, lmao. There is nothing virtuous here. I dgaf about the economy right now. Not one single fuck. We haven't even reached the worst yet in this country. If some of your free-spending, non-saving relatives, friends, acquaintances, political allies, etc. can't make it for a COUPLE OF DAMN MONTHS then they can go ahead and die. And I guess the Trump economy just wasn't that great after all.
You have no idea what you are talking about....
Doctors, Doctored Numbers, and Democracy › American Greatness
The New York Times on Tuesday reported: “The numbers the health officials showed President Trump were overwhelming. With the peak of the coronavirus pandemic still weeks away, he was told…amgreatness.com
Trouble is, though, these numbers come from just some doctors—they reflect neither reality nor broad medical opinion. They are synthetic products that hide the (often ignorant) assumptions that they reflect, substitute for reason, foster panic, and ruin the country.
The following shows how “soft” and hence divorced from reality these numbers are, what it would take to produce “hard” numbers—i.e. ones reflective of reality—and the manner consistent with self-government in which such matters should be debated and decided.
All admit that the numbers that are scaring the sense out of the country are mathematical projections. All projections are based on assumptions about the ever-changing numbers of “confirmed cases” of COVID-19, as well as of deaths resulting therefrom. But few—and here it seems we must include many “health officials”—consider that the latter numbers are themselves “soft” and tell us next to nothing about how much, how little, or what kind of dangers the virus poses to us.
Certainly, they give no guidance about what restrictions any of us should apply to ourselves, never mind what the government should do to the country.
How’s that? Because the number of “confirmed cases”—meaning cases that have come to the attention of the medical profession—tells us nothing about the number of people infected. Nor does that number tell us what happens to the gamut of those infected. Nor is the number of deaths “hard,” because it does not distinguish between those who die of the virus and those who die merely with it (that is, they might have died even without it).
To make intelligent decisions about countermeasures, we would need have hard data about all these matters.
Yet, for two months, doctors such as Anthony Fauci have messed up millions of lives and commandeered trillions of dollars while scaring the hell out of people and watching curves based on projections based on meaningless numbers. Watching the several curves resulting from the testing that is now ongoing and that is projected to continue as the country suffers will provide only more guesses, that will feed more models and more disputes.
In short, Fauci, et al., are showing themselves to be typical of our bureaucracy: over-credentialed, entrusted with too much power, and dangerously incompetent.
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President Trump, as well as the governors of some states, have been stampeded out of their common sense into shutting down the country until further notice. The bureaucratic-media complex has done this on the supposed basis of medical authority. But the doctors have not been speaking as doctors on the basis of knowledge of the human body while offering cures or even palliatives. No. Their judgments are based on speculation about the meaning of mathematical models.
They are not acting like good doctors but rather like bad politicians.
Fauci showed how thoroughly he and his cohorts have subordinated common sense to bureaucratic authority. Having strenuously campaigned to deny the usefulness of hydroxychloroquine, having been confronted by the fact that physicians on the front lines of the battle against the virus are using it themselves, and having been asked whether he—were he to come down with illness from the virus—would use it, he weakly conceded that he would but only as part of an approved study. He cared less about describing what the drug can do and can not do than about affirming his agency’s and the FDA’s prerogatives.
So....Tony Blair of Britain is stating if the economy in Britain Collapses, the National Health Service collapses.....how many deaths will that cause?
Do you understand how you are wrong when you say it is lives or money?
I doubt you will get it........but it is the truth.
Do you understand that sending everyone back to restaurants, bars, sporting event, cult rallies, churches, etc. right now will overwhelm our shitty for-profit healthcare system? Look at Michigan. They are literally BEGGING for healthcare workers.
So the economy won't really matter when everyone is too sick to work and no way to get healthcare.
But you'll never get it. It is lives or money. Right now it is lives or money. I don't gaf about what you THINK might happen to the economy.
Quality of life matters not.
It escapes these dunderheaded people that poverty can be so horrid and grinding you hope for death. You wish for it, you want it.
But they have little understanding and no imagination. They just hear orders and start marching