Is Pense really all that useful?

[Czernobog]

Two points. First, S.E. Cupp (a conservative, mind you) said something interesting on Bill Mahrer last night. She pointed out that VP picks rarely ever bring voting bumps to presidential campaigns. Af all, as she put it, people never vote for the second guy on the ticket, that's why it's called a Presidential campaign. So, if if the idea is for Pense to make Trump look more rational, and presidential, then in that regard he fails miserably, because Trump is...well...Trump. Cupp likened it to the idea of a woman marrying a beast of a man, because she likes his brother. No one ever does that.

Second, perhaps the purpose of Pense isn't to clean up Trump's image at all. Perhaps it is to snag a voting bloc - after all Evangelicals like Pense. If that's the case, then a recent pew poll could very well bed a problem for Trump. It demonstrates that, while traditional Christian faiths - catholicism, Protestant, and Evangelical - are on a swift downturn, unaffiliated - Agnostic, and atheist - are just as quickly growing, and non-Christian faiths are the only other group that has shown growth in recent years in the US. This means that non-christian faiths - or lack thereof, in the case of atheism - are becoming the largest voting bloc in the US. That being the new paradigm, does a running mate who is so clearly conservative Christian really help the ticket all that much?

 

[dcbl]

maybe Pence gives us the best chances in Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia & Florida We have to win ONE of PA, VA or MI plus FL & OH

Pence is a solid mainstream republican / respected guy that can resonate in those states...

 

[Freewill]

No, I don't think he will be useful in changing your rock solid democrat vote.

 

[deltex1]

Two points. First, S.E. Cupp (a conservative, mind you) said something interesting on Bill Mahrer last night. She pointed out that VP picks rarely ever bring voting bumps to presidential campaigns. Af all, as she put it, people never vote for the second guy on the ticket, that's why it's called a Presidential campaign. So, if if the idea is for Pense to make Trump look more rational, and presidential, then in that regard he fails miserably, because Trump is...well...Trump. Cupp likened it to the idea of a woman marrying a beast of a man, because she likes his brother. No one ever does that.

Second, perhaps the purpose of Pense isn't to clean up Trump's image at all. Perhaps it is to snag a voting bloc - after all Evangelicals like Pense. If that's the case, then a recent pew poll could very well bed a problem for Trump. It demonstrates that, while traditional Christian faiths - catholicism, Protestant, and Evangelical - are on a swift downturn, unaffiliated - Agnostic, and atheist - are just as quickly growing, and non-Christian faiths are the only other group that has shown growth in recent years in the US. This means that non-christian faiths - or lack thereof, in the case of atheism - are becoming the largest voting bloc in the US. That being the new paradigm, does a running mate who is so clearly conservative Christian really help the ticket all that much?

Are you? First learn how to spell his name.

 

[Camp]

Pence was chosen for the short term purpose of solidifying the Republican base into supporting Trump. He will have no useful effect in the general election, rather, he will probably hurt it. This was a horrible and amateur decision from Trump.

 

[frigidweirdo]

It's hard to see what anyone could bring to Trump. Those who Trump has alienated won't be brought over by a VP, and those who love Trump not matter what he does, won't need to be brought over.

Those in the middle, they're going to not really know who Pence is, though maybe if Trump calls him "50 Pence" then he can do some rap shit.

 

[JoeMoma]

Would anyone have been that useful as Trump's VP? Trump had to pick someone (willing). May as well be Pence.

 

[Czernobog]

Two points. First, S.E. Cupp (a conservative, mind you) said something interesting on Bill Mahrer last night. She pointed out that VP picks rarely ever bring voting bumps to presidential campaigns. Af all, as she put it, people never vote for the second guy on the ticket, that's why it's called a Presidential campaign. So, if if the idea is for Pense to make Trump look more rational, and presidential, then in that regard he fails miserably, because Trump is...well...Trump. Cupp likened it to the idea of a woman marrying a beast of a man, because she likes his brother. No one ever does that.

Second, perhaps the purpose of Pense isn't to clean up Trump's image at all. Perhaps it is to snag a voting bloc - after all Evangelicals like Pense. If that's the case, then a recent pew poll could very well bed a problem for Trump. It demonstrates that, while traditional Christian faiths - catholicism, Protestant, and Evangelical - are on a swift downturn, unaffiliated - Agnostic, and atheist - are just as quickly growing, and non-Christian faiths are the only other group that has shown growth in recent years in the US. This means that non-christian faiths - or lack thereof, in the case of atheism - are becoming the largest voting bloc in the US. That being the new paradigm, does a running mate who is so clearly conservative Christian really help the ticket all that much?

Are you? First learn how to spell his name.

Oops. "c", not "s". Sorry. Meanwhile, any thoughts on the actual question?

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[Toro]

Pence has snagged the "smoking-doesn't-kill-anyone-it's-a-liberal-lie" voting bloc.

 

[deltex1]

Two points. First, S.E. Cupp (a conservative, mind you) said something interesting on Bill Mahrer last night. She pointed out that VP picks rarely ever bring voting bumps to presidential campaigns. Af all, as she put it, people never vote for the second guy on the ticket, that's why it's called a Presidential campaign. So, if if the idea is for Pense to make Trump look more rational, and presidential, then in that regard he fails miserably, because Trump is...well...Trump. Cupp likened it to the idea of a woman marrying a beast of a man, because she likes his brother. No one ever does that.

Second, perhaps the purpose of Pense isn't to clean up Trump's image at all. Perhaps it is to snag a voting bloc - after all Evangelicals like Pense. If that's the case, then a recent pew poll could very well bed a problem for Trump. It demonstrates that, while traditional Christian faiths - catholicism, Protestant, and Evangelical - are on a swift downturn, unaffiliated - Agnostic, and atheist - are just as quickly growing, and non-Christian faiths are the only other group that has shown growth in recent years in the US. This means that non-christian faiths - or lack thereof, in the case of atheism - are becoming the largest voting bloc in the US. That being the new paradigm, does a running mate who is so clearly conservative Christian really help the ticket all that much?

Are you? First learn how to spell his name.

Oops. "c", not "s". Sorry. Meanwhile, any thoughts on the actual question?

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Very useful to America...compared to Hillary the incompetent.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Two points. First, S.E. Cupp (a conservative, mind you) said something interesting on Bill Mahrer last night. She pointed out that VP picks rarely ever bring voting bumps to presidential campaigns. Af all, as she put it, people never vote for the second guy on the ticket, that's why it's called a Presidential campaign. So, if if the idea is for Pense to make Trump look more rational, and presidential, then in that regard he fails miserably, because Trump is...well...Trump. Cupp likened it to the idea of a woman marrying a beast of a man, because she likes his brother. No one ever does that.

Second, perhaps the purpose of Pense isn't to clean up Trump's image at all. Perhaps it is to snag a voting bloc - after all Evangelicals like Pense. If that's the case, then a recent pew poll could very well bed a problem for Trump. It demonstrates that, while traditional Christian faiths - catholicism, Protestant, and Evangelical - are on a swift downturn, unaffiliated - Agnostic, and atheist - are just as quickly growing, and non-Christian faiths are the only other group that has shown growth in recent years in the US. This means that non-christian faiths - or lack thereof, in the case of atheism - are becoming the largest voting bloc in the US. That being the new paradigm, does a running mate who is so clearly conservative Christian really help the ticket all that much?

Are you? First learn how to spell his name.

Oops. "c", not "s". Sorry. Meanwhile, any thoughts on the actual question?

Sent from my 5054N using Tapatalk

Very useful to America...compared to Hillary the incompetent.

The left is gonna need to fictionalise their narrative, so much lower, to sink anywhere close to the slimy depths at which Hillary operates.

 

[Penelope]

Donald Trump’s vice presidential nominee, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence (R), praised Hillary Clinton for her handling of the chaos in Libya during the early days of civil unrest there and encouraged the Obama administration to take aggressive action in the country.

The comments, which came during a House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing in March 2011, put Pence at odds with the man with whom he now shares a ticket. Though Trump initially called for the U.S. to help Libyan rebels oust the country’s long-ruling dictator, Muammar Gaddafi, he has since reversed course. During the campaign, he harshly criticized the invasion of Libya and the role that Clinton, as secretary of state, specifically played in it.

“Her invasion of Libya handed the country over to ISIS, the barbarians,” he said in a recent speech.

Mike Pence Praised Hillary Clinton During The Libya Intervention

 

[saveliberty]

As long as he can't see Russia or Canada from his house all is well.

 

[deltex1]

Donald Trump’s vice presidential nominee, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence (R), praised Hillary Clinton for her handling of the chaos in Libya during the early days of civil unrest there and encouraged the Obama administration to take aggressive action in the country.

The comments, which came during a House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing in March 2011, put Pence at odds with the man with whom he now shares a ticket. Though Trump initially called for the U.S. to help Libyan rebels oust the country’s long-ruling dictator, Muammar Gaddafi, he has since reversed course. During the campaign, he harshly criticized the invasion of Libya and the role that Clinton, as secretary of state, specifically played in it.

“Her invasion of Libya handed the country over to ISIS, the barbarians,” he said in a recent speech.

Mike Pence Praised Hillary Clinton During The Libya Intervention

Hillary dropped the ball after the intervention...she failed to prevent the showing of the video that caused the death of our ambassador and his protectors.

 

[JoeMoma]

As long as he can't see Russia or Canada from his house all is well.

He can if he knows how with his smart phone.

 

[Czernobog]

Donald Trump’s vice presidential nominee, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence (R), praised Hillary Clinton for her handling of the chaos in Libya during the early days of civil unrest there and encouraged the Obama administration to take aggressive action in the country.

The comments, which came during a House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing in March 2011, put Pence at odds with the man with whom he now shares a ticket. Though Trump initially called for the U.S. to help Libyan rebels oust the country’s long-ruling dictator, Muammar Gaddafi, he has since reversed course. During the campaign, he harshly criticized the invasion of Libya and the role that Clinton, as secretary of state, specifically played in it.

“Her invasion of Libya handed the country over to ISIS, the barbarians,” he said in a recent speech.

Mike Pence Praised Hillary Clinton During The Libya Intervention

Hillary dropped the ball after the intervention...she failed to prevent the showing of the video that caused the death of our ambassador and his protectors.

Waitwaitwaitwait... I could swear that Republicans/Conservatives have been insisting that "the video" had nothing to do with the attack in Benghazi. Wasn't that the whole point of 8 fucking congressional hearing?!?! That obama lied, and tried to claim that the attack was part of a spontaneous demonstration brought on by the video, and that it, was, in fact, a planned attack that had nothing to do with the video?!?!

Now, suddenly, that video was the cause of the ambassador's death?!?!

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Donald Trump’s vice presidential nominee, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence (R), praised Hillary Clinton for her handling of the chaos in Libya during the early days of civil unrest there and encouraged the Obama administration to take aggressive action in the country.

The comments, which came during a House Foreign Affairs Committee hearing in March 2011, put Pence at odds with the man with whom he now shares a ticket. Though Trump initially called for the U.S. to help Libyan rebels oust the country’s long-ruling dictator, Muammar Gaddafi, he has since reversed course. During the campaign, he harshly criticized the invasion of Libya and the role that Clinton, as secretary of state, specifically played in it.

“Her invasion of Libya handed the country over to ISIS, the barbarians,” he said in a recent speech.

Mike Pence Praised Hillary Clinton During The Libya Intervention

Hillary dropped the ball after the intervention...she failed to prevent the showing of the video that caused the death of our ambassador and his protectors.

Waitwaitwaitwait... I could swear that Republicans/Conservatives have been insisting that "the video" had nothing to do with the attack in Benghazi. Wasn't that the whole point of 8 fucking congressional hearing?!?! That obama lied, and tried to claim that the attack was part of a spontaneous demonstration brought on by the video, and that it, was, in fact, a planned attack that had nothing to do with the video?!?!

Now, suddenly, that video was the cause of the ambassador's death?!?!

Beats Deltex to it and hands Czern three katyushas

 

[deltex1]

Good call sassy...but I think I would have given her six.

 

[Czernobog]

Good call sassy...but I think I would have given her six.

She's a he, and he doesn't even know what a katyusha is, so...thanks?

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[deltex1]

Good call sassy...but I think I would have given her six.

She's a he, and he doesn't even know what a katyusha is, so...thanks?

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I try frequently to honor the liberal view that gender designations are meaningless.

And A Katyusha is a missile that invariably goes over the head of the intended target.