Is obamacare fascist, socialist, communist or other?

[TNHarley]

You're welcome.


And I'm right, too.

Is that what MSN said? Try reading the OP and learn what we are discussing. Ya didn't even answer the damn question, loser

Oh, but I already did answer it: Other.

And I explained why.

And I'm right.

Perhaps in your peasant mind

 

[beagle9]

It is totalitarian, but that can be too general
I think it more of a specific term..As there is a difference in those terms

totalitarianism is the method these types of economic relations will function - at least for limited period of time - they are unsustainable for the long ones.

obamacare is not socialist per se, not fascist per se, but has the features of both.
the grip of it over we, the people is totalitarian.

to distinguish more we need more facts. But the ones we have exhibit the features of BOTH fascist and socialist regime ( which is not difficult, since both are the left varieties)

Me and a friend were talking about the issue the other day, and we don't see why the government doesn't just take control of the revenue side of the health care situation for us in this way, and therefore just tax us like we see our income taxed on our pay check stubs, and this by an added amount specifically for health care to also be taken out as a tax. Lets say this tax is listed as HCR Services, and it equals $15.00 dollars a week for standard coverage in which everyone gets who works automatically, and if the rich want to pay more directly to the private carrier for added services above and beyond, then so be it. Lets say it only takes actually $10.00 dollars a week for coverage of an individual, and say $13.00 dollars a week for family coverage, well then the $2.00 remaining dollars can go to cover the poor and needy throughout the nation. This is the way it ought to work (just simplify it)....

 

[TNHarley]

Read the title. Vote and explain

Is this OP stupid, dumb, ignorant, or just plain idiotic?

YES
It was sooooo shallow but you still couldn't give a proper response

 

[rdean]

Well, my guess is that if you are talking to a right winger, it's "socialist". Because only right wingers understand that "American helping American is socialism". They want to "save" this country from socialism by making sure millions of Americans suffer and die. Especially "suffer".

 

[TNHarley]

It is totalitarian, but that can be too general
I think it more of a specific term..As there is a difference in those terms

totalitarianism is the method these types of economic relations will function - at least for limited period of time - they are unsustainable for the long ones.

obamacare is not socialist per se, not fascist per se, but has the features of both.
the grip of it over we, the people is totalitarian.

to distinguish more we need more facts. But the ones we have exhibit the features of BOTH fascist and socialist regime ( which is not difficult, since both are the left varieties)

Me and a friend were talking about the issue the other day, and we don't see why the government doesn't just take control of the revenue side of the health care situation for us in this way, and therefore just tax us like we see our income taxed on our pay check stubs, and this by an added amount specifically for health care to also be taken out as a tax. Lets say this tax is listed as HCR Services, and it equals $15.00 dollars a week for standard coverage in which everyone gets who works automatically, and if the rich want to pay more directly to the private carrier for added services above and beyond, then so be it. Lets say it only takes actually $10.00 dollars a week for coverage of an individual, and say $13.00 dollars a week for family coverage, well then the $2.00 remaining dollars can go to cover the poor and needy throughout the nation. This is the way it ought to work (just simplify it)....

You mean like Australia?

 

[TNHarley]

Well, my guess is that if you are talking to a right winger, it's "socialist". Because only right wingers understand that "American helping American is socialism". They want to "save" this country from socialism by making sure millions of Americans suffer and die. Especially "suffer".

So, basically, its whatever the opposite of the RW's think it is?

 

[Vox]

It is totalitarian, but that can be too general
I think it more of a specific term..As there is a difference in those terms

totalitarianism is the method these types of economic relations will function - at least for limited period of time - they are unsustainable for the long ones.

obamacare is not socialist per se, not fascist per se, but has the features of both.
the grip of it over we, the people is totalitarian.

to distinguish more we need more facts. But the ones we have exhibit the features of BOTH fascist and socialist regime ( which is not difficult, since both are the left varieties)

Me and a friend were talking about the issue the other day, and we don't see why the government doesn't just take control of the revenue side of the health care situation for us in this way, and therefore just tax us like we see our income taxed on our pay check stubs, and this by an added amount specifically for health care to also be taken out as a tax. Lets say this tax is listed as HCR Services, and it equals $15.00 dollars a week for standard coverage in which everyone gets who works automatically, and if the rich want to pay more directly to the private carrier for added services above and beyond, then so be it. Lets say it only takes actually $10.00 dollars a week for coverage of an individual, and say $13.00 dollars a week for family coverage, well then the $2.00 remaining dollars can go to cover the poor and needy throughout the nation. This is the way it ought to work (just simplify it)....

no. better way would be to have a national sales healthcare tax - which would be FAIR and that money to be designated for healthcare for all - at the basic need ( as is in Canada or some European countries). That will be very basic, but comparable to those countries.
Those, who wish to bypass the lines of waiting ( which is inevitable in a single-payer system) might buy private insurance - exactly for the extension of care - and the care which is the most expensive. Transplantation, for example, should be divided into two tiers - one, a general one, for those who have the problem which does not have their own fault involved - they should be provided transplant care on the general "free" basis. The ones, who need the organ transplant because of their own addition ( alcoholic cirrhosis, kidney failure because of obesity etc) will have to pay insurance for that. The details can be worked through, but you get the picture.

 

[Pogo]

It is totalitarian, but that can be too general
I think it more of a specific term..As there is a difference in those terms

totalitarianism is the method these types of economic relations will function - at least for limited period of time - they are unsustainable for the long ones.

obamacare is not socialist per se, not fascist per se, but has the features of both.
the grip of it over we, the people is totalitarian.

to distinguish more we need more facts. But the ones we have exhibit the features of BOTH fascist and socialist regime ( which is not difficult, since both are the left varieties)

Me and a friend were talking about the issue the other day, and we don't see why the government doesn't just take control of the revenue side of the health care situation for us in this way, and therefore just tax us like we see our income taxed on our pay check stubs, and this by an added amount specifically for health care to also be taken out as a tax. Lets say this tax is listed as HCR Services, and it equals $15.00 dollars a week for standard coverage in which everyone gets who works automatically, and if the rich want to pay more directly to the private carrier for added services above and beyond, then so be it. Lets say it only takes actually $10.00 dollars a week for coverage of an individual, and say $13.00 dollars a week for family coverage, well then the $2.00 remaining dollars can go to cover the poor and needy throughout the nation. This is the way it ought to work (just simplify it)....

Yeah, from your lips to Congress' ears, but unfortunately that's not what we got. We were heading that way at least in part with the Public Option until Joe Lieberwhore (or more correctly Joe Lieberwhore's PharmaPimps) got wind of it.

 

[Billo_Really]

Read the title. Vote and explain

Obama is a politician.

That's it!

Man, you people are whack!

 

[regent]

Why is it so important for Americans to call their presidents names? We elect the president and then start the name calling. Is that a sign that many Americans are juvenile or what?

 

[Billo_Really]

Why is it so important for Americans to call their presidents names? We elect the president and then start the name calling. Is that a sign that many Americans are juvenile or what?

It means we watch way too much TV.

 

[EriktheRed]

Why is it so important for Americans to call their presidents names? We elect the president and then start the name calling. Is that a sign that many Americans are juvenile or what?

I don't think it's limited to just Americans.

 

[Wyld Kard]

The Obamacare fraud and the case for socialized medicine
1 October 2013

After years of promotion, lobbying and political wrangling, health insurance exchanges are opening for business today across the country as part of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (ACA). Under the health care overhaul, people without health insurance are mandated to purchase coverage from private insurers or face a penalty. Coverage for enrollees is set to begin January 1, 2014.

The insurance exchange launch is a milestone in a process that, in the guise of “reform,” has been aimed at funneling billions of dollars into the coffers of the private health insurers and slashing costs for the government and corporations. In the end, it will leave tens of millions uninsured and others with vastly deteriorated medical services.

In his bid for the presidency, Barack Obama pledged to implement a sweeping social reform in the provision of health care in the United States. He claimed that under his plan no insurer would be allowed to deny coverage to a sick child, or an individual with a preexisting condition; no family would go bankrupt or hungry due to health care costs; and that the insurance companies would be held to account.

The process now underway demonstrates that a colossal fraud has been perpetrated against the American population in the name of Obamacare, and that all of these promises were lies.

Read More: The Obamacare fraud and the case for socialized medicine - World Socialist Web Site

 

[PixieStix]

I have always called it Obamunism

Saw it coming a mile away

 

[PixieStix]

petulant childism?

 

[TNHarley]

Read the title. Vote and explain

Obama is a politician.

That's it!

Man, you people are whack!

Well, that explains it
thread closed

 

[PixieStix]

Why is it so important for Americans to call their presidents names? We elect the president and then start the name calling. Is that a sign that many Americans are juvenile or what?

It is called freedom of speech. It was this amendment to the Constitution that people once held dear.

You've never heard of it?

 

[PixieStix]

Why is it so important for Americans to call their presidents names? We elect the president and then start the name calling. Is that a sign that many Americans are juvenile or what?

It means we watch way too much TV.

You drink way too much koolaid

 

[Wyld Kard]

Read the title. Vote and explain

Obama is a politician.

That's it!

Man, you people are whack!

Obama is a politician.

Correction:

Obama is a puppet.

 

[Pogo]

Read the title. Vote and explain

Obama is a politician.

That's it!

Man, you people are whack!

Obama is a politician.

Correction:

Obama is a puppet.

Uh -- the terms are synonymous by now. Have been for quite some time. Dwight Eisenhower told me that in freaking 1961.