Is Mark Kelly a traitor?

[jc456]

Fine, get rid of the Russians, don’t appease them.

Wow! There’s absolutely nothing to say

 

[0311]

Musk earlier Monday in a tweet directed at Democratic Arizona Sen. Mark Kelly wrote, “You are a traitor,” after the senator posted about a visit he made to Ukraine over the weekend.

“Everyone wants this war to end, but any agreement has to protect Ukraine’s security and can’t be a giveaway to Putin,” Kelly had written, referring to Russian leader Vladimir Putin, who ordered his nation’s invasion of Ukraine three years ago.

Kelly, who is a former U.S. Navy pilot and NASA astronaut, fired back at Musk’s attack.

“Traitor?” Kelly wrote. “Elon, if you don’t understand that defending freedom is a basic tenet of what makes America great and keeps us safe, maybe you should leave it to those of us who do.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/10/musk-tesla-doge-stock-market.html

Kelly just came back from a trip to Ukraine. He's made a number of comments based on what he saw and Ukrainians he spoke to.

Kelly said in his initial post Sunday that his trip over the weekend to the war-torn country, where he met with military members, nurses and others, had reaffirmed his commitment to not give up on the Ukrainian people. He added that any peace deal with Russia “has to protect Ukraine’s security and can’t be a giveaway” to Russian President Vladimir Putin.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...mark-kelly-traitor-support-ukraine-rcna195738

Maybe Elon means Kelly is a traitor to the cause of Russia? Cuz Kelly's credentials as a patriot to this country are beyond reproach.

No he is a hero. 47 and Muscat are traitors.

 

[konradv]

Wow! There’s absolutely nothing to say

Sure there is. MAGA is being soft and spineless.

 

[konradv]

That’s the plan. Doubt they’ll be happy with Americans enjoying working hand and hand with a free and stable Ukraine

Who cares? Reagan wouldn’t have. He’d have stood by a democracy, even an imperfect one(because who isn’t), over a dictatorship.

 

[konradv]

I'd prefer no violence, and Americans working with Ukrainians on building an economy.

Of course, once the Russians are gone. We should be helping with that, not trying to get them to cede 1/4 of their territory.

 

[Oddball]

But why do you think it's unwinable? Russia is pretty hard up right now.

A war that Putin said would take three days is now 3 years, with help from North Koreans and Iranians and Russia still can't win it....?

Why do you think he needs Trump? Because he can't win it on his own and his coffers are being bled dry....

That part of Eurasia isn't know as "the blood lands" for nothing....Tenpercentakyy is kidnapping men off the streets to send them to the front.... Ukraine was never ever going to win.

 

[Leo123]

Musk earlier Monday in a tweet directed at Democratic Arizona Sen. Mark Kelly wrote, “You are a traitor,” after the senator posted about a visit he made to Ukraine over the weekend.

“Everyone wants this war to end, but any agreement has to protect Ukraine’s security and can’t be a giveaway to Putin,” Kelly had written, referring to Russian leader Vladimir Putin, who ordered his nation’s invasion of Ukraine three years ago.

Kelly, who is a former U.S. Navy pilot and NASA astronaut, fired back at Musk’s attack.

“Traitor?” Kelly wrote. “Elon, if you don’t understand that defending freedom is a basic tenet of what makes America great and keeps us safe, maybe you should leave it to those of us who do.”
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/10/musk-tesla-doge-stock-market.html

Kelly just came back from a trip to Ukraine. He's made a number of comments based on what he saw and Ukrainians he spoke to.

Kelly said in his initial post Sunday that his trip over the weekend to the war-torn country, where he met with military members, nurses and others, had reaffirmed his commitment to not give up on the Ukrainian people. He added that any peace deal with Russia “has to protect Ukraine’s security and can’t be a giveaway” to Russian President Vladimir Putin.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/co...mark-kelly-traitor-support-ukraine-rcna195738

Maybe Elon means Kelly is a traitor to the cause of Russia? Cuz Kelly's credentials as a patriot to this country are beyond reproach.

From the post: "had reaffirmed his commitment to not give up on the Ukrainian people." So, Kelly admits he gave up Ukraine. Glad he finally came around but he needs to support Trump instead of stabbing him in the back.

 

[jc456]

Sure there is. MAGA is being soft and spineless.

You’re a fk, ain’t worth any human’s time. Go fk yourself

 

[Care4all]

What, exactly can be done to force putin to give back the territory he's already taken? Is it even possible? There's only one thing he wants..ukraine...what bargaining chip could we produce that's bigger than that?

I dunno? Maybe the Ukraine could demand the Russians pay to rebuild the Ukrainian Infrastructure the Russians destroyed with Ukrainians doing the rebuilding....bringing back jobs for them...
and if the Russians don't comply, then all the sanctions stay in place and only pulled one by one as the rebuilding projects they are working on in Ukraine are completed
...or something of the sort.

Added to that....after agreed upon who keeps what territory, a promise that Russia will not ever invade any other territory of Ukraine, and if he does an expedited admission to the E.U. and NATO, will happen..
could be a good one...!!!

 

[konradv]

You’re a fk, ain’t worth any human’s time. Go fk yourself

Another soft and spineless response!

 

[No Way]

Is Mark Kelly a traitor?​

Are you?

 

[konradv]

That part of Eurasia isn't know as "the blood lands" for nothing....Tenpercentakyy is kidnapping men off the streets to send them to the front.... Ukraine was never ever going to win.

MAGA lies.

 

[struth]

Who cares? Reagan wouldn’t have. He’d have stood by a democracy, even an imperfect one(because who isn’t), over a dictatorship.

No he would do what Trump is trying to do and spread economic growth

 

[struth]

Of course, once the Russians are gone. We should be helping with that, not trying to get them to cede 1/4 of their territory.

Obama already did that years ago

 

[ThisIsMe]

I dunno? Maybe the Ukraine could demand the Russians pay to rebuild the Ukrainian Infrastructure the Russians destroyed with Ukrainians doing the rebuilding....bringing back jobs for them...
and if the Russians don't comply, then all the sanctions stay in place and only pulled one by one as the rebuilding projects they are working on in Ukraine are completed
...or something of the sort.

Added to that....after agreed upon who keeps what territory, a promise that Russia will not ever invade any other territory of Ukraine, and if he does an expedited admission to the E.U. and NATO, will happen..
could be a good one...!!!

It's going to be a hard enough time getting them to give back the land they seized, demanding them to pay for the damage is going to be a stretch

 

[konradv]

Obama already did that years ago

So, Trump is just following Obama’s lead?

 

[struth]

So, Trump is just following Obama’s lead?

Obama already did it, he can't do what Obama already did.

 

[konradv]

Obama already did it, he can't do what Obama already did.

Trump wants to give Putin more. We have a much better chance of stopping him this time, but Trump and MAGA are in the bag for a dictator!

 

[Zincwarrior]

Who’s that?

Your boss.

He just gave Trump another $100MM.

 

[berg80]

So, Kelly admits he gave up Ukraine.

You need a remedial reading comprehension class.