It is easy if we assume a God, then we can say that your life starts and ends with God. But what if we assume that there is no god?

If there is no God, then your life starts and ends with your parents. Obviously it then starts with your parents. Within these constraints, everything that happens in your life that your parents don't control is selfish.

Every life has a dependency on its environment, and the individual personal capability of the life itself. So an atheistic imposition demands, that the parents also control all aspects of the environment and personal capabilities of the life they start.

Can this be guaranteed, and maintained continuously and unconditionally? In other words can an atheistic view in a school or family be maintained without failure?

Discuss.

Parents are there to help their children learn how to control their own environment and capabilities as much as possible. Only a monster would feel obligated to do what you claim. I'm not sure where you got your disgusting ideas, but they are nothing like what Jesus taught.

Usually parents have the actions described in the OP, especially when those parents are teachers or other academics. I find that perents think helping children is the same as helping themselves in their own terms, regardless of the environment of the children. Therefore, if we remove God from the idea of life, then we end up with a self destructive process, that is also judged predatorially.

No, controlling all aspects of the environment and personal capabilities of the life they start is not a parent's job, and is the exact opposite of a parent's job of preparing their child to successfully function and prosper in the real world. You have some really twisted ideas.

Just a statistical observation. For example it was presented on TV, that certain "intellectuals" such as teachers and psychologists, find it unacceptable and unbearable, if their child doesn't go for high academia. Also, some sportsman parents don't tolerate if their child is not a leading talent in some school team. And so on. Parents usually say they serve best by maximizing their child's achievement, whilst doing nothing but controlling the child to its ruin, like roads to hell paved with good will and such. :)
 
It is easy if we assume a God, then we can say that your life starts and ends with God. But what if we assume that there is no god?

If there is no God, then your life starts and ends with your parents. Obviously it then starts with your parents. Within these constraints, everything that happens in your life that your parents don't control is selfish.

Every life has a dependency on its environment, and the individual personal capability of the life itself. So an atheistic imposition demands, that the parents also control all aspects of the environment and personal capabilities of the life they start.

Can this be guaranteed, and maintained continuously and unconditionally? In other words can an atheistic view in a school or family be maintained without failure?

Discuss.

Parents are there to help their children learn how to control their own environment and capabilities as much as possible. Only a monster would feel obligated to do what you claim. I'm not sure where you got your disgusting ideas, but they are nothing like what Jesus taught.

Usually parents have the actions described in the OP, especially when those parents are teachers or other academics. I find that perents think helping children is the same as helping themselves in their own terms, regardless of the environment of the children. Therefore, if we remove God from the idea of life, then we end up with a self destructive process, that is also judged predatorially.

No, controlling all aspects of the environment and personal capabilities of the life they start is not a parent's job, and is the exact opposite of a parent's job of preparing their child to successfully function and prosper in the real world. You have some really twisted ideas.

Just a statistical observation. For example it was presented on TV, that certain "intellectuals" such as teachers and psychologists, find it unacceptable and unbearable, if their child doesn't go for high academia. Also, some sportsman parents don't tolerate if their child is not a leading talent in some school team. And so on. Parents usually say they serve best by maximizing their child's achievement, whilst doing nothing but controlling the child to its ruin, like roads to hell paved with good will and such. :)

Parents, like anybody else, have different ideas about what a person must learn to be successful in life. Making sure your children learn those things is a far cry from controlling every aspect of their lives.
 
It is easy if we assume a God, then we can say that your life starts and ends with God. But what if we assume that there is no god?

If there is no God, then your life starts and ends with your parents. Obviously it then starts with your parents. Within these constraints, everything that happens in your life that your parents don't control is selfish.

Every life has a dependency on its environment, and the individual personal capability of the life itself. So an atheistic imposition demands, that the parents also control all aspects of the environment and personal capabilities of the life they start.

Can this be guaranteed, and maintained continuously and unconditionally? In other words can an atheistic view in a school or family be maintained without failure?

Discuss.

Parents are there to help their children learn how to control their own environment and capabilities as much as possible. Only a monster would feel obligated to do what you claim. I'm not sure where you got your disgusting ideas, but they are nothing like what Jesus taught.

Usually parents have the actions described in the OP, especially when those parents are teachers or other academics. I find that perents think helping children is the same as helping themselves in their own terms, regardless of the environment of the children. Therefore, if we remove God from the idea of life, then we end up with a self destructive process, that is also judged predatorially.

No, controlling all aspects of the environment and personal capabilities of the life they start is not a parent's job, and is the exact opposite of a parent's job of preparing their child to successfully function and prosper in the real world. You have some really twisted ideas.

Just a statistical observation. For example it was presented on TV, that certain "intellectuals" such as teachers and psychologists, find it unacceptable and unbearable, if their child doesn't go for high academia. Also, some sportsman parents don't tolerate if their child is not a leading talent in some school team. And so on. Parents usually say they serve best by maximizing their child's achievement, whilst doing nothing but controlling the child to its ruin, like roads to hell paved with good will and such. :)

Parents, like anybody else, have different ideas about what a person must learn to be successful in life. Making sure your children learn those things is a far cry from controlling every aspect of their lives.

So looks like it is a spectrum. There are plenty at the control extreme of it, I can assure you, which is why in every school you can spot which student is the child of some teachers.
 
It is easy if we assume a God, then we can say that your life starts and ends with God. But what if we assume that there is no god?

If there is no God, then your life starts and ends with your parents. Obviously it then starts with your parents. Within these constraints, everything that happens in your life that your parents don't control is selfish.

Every life has a dependency on its environment, and the individual personal capability of the life itself. So an atheistic imposition demands, that the parents also control all aspects of the environment and personal capabilities of the life they start.

Can this be guaranteed, and maintained continuously and unconditionally? In other words can an atheistic view in a school or family be maintained without failure?

Discuss.

Parents are there to help their children learn how to control their own environment and capabilities as much as possible. Only a monster would feel obligated to do what you claim. I'm not sure where you got your disgusting ideas, but they are nothing like what Jesus taught.

Usually parents have the actions described in the OP, especially when those parents are teachers or other academics. I find that perents think helping children is the same as helping themselves in their own terms, regardless of the environment of the children. Therefore, if we remove God from the idea of life, then we end up with a self destructive process, that is also judged predatorially.

No, controlling all aspects of the environment and personal capabilities of the life they start is not a parent's job, and is the exact opposite of a parent's job of preparing their child to successfully function and prosper in the real world. You have some really twisted ideas.

Just a statistical observation. For example it was presented on TV, that certain "intellectuals" such as teachers and psychologists, find it unacceptable and unbearable, if their child doesn't go for high academia. Also, some sportsman parents don't tolerate if their child is not a leading talent in some school team. And so on. Parents usually say they serve best by maximizing their child's achievement, whilst doing nothing but controlling the child to its ruin, like roads to hell paved with good will and such. :)

Parents, like anybody else, have different ideas about what a person must learn to be successful in life. Making sure your children learn those things is a far cry from controlling every aspect of their lives.
Can you give a few examples of these different ideas? Are they diametrically opposite?
 
Parents are there to help their children learn how to control their own environment and capabilities as much as possible. Only a monster would feel obligated to do what you claim. I'm not sure where you got your disgusting ideas, but they are nothing like what Jesus taught.

Usually parents have the actions described in the OP, especially when those parents are teachers or other academics. I find that perents think helping children is the same as helping themselves in their own terms, regardless of the environment of the children. Therefore, if we remove God from the idea of life, then we end up with a self destructive process, that is also judged predatorially.

No, controlling all aspects of the environment and personal capabilities of the life they start is not a parent's job, and is the exact opposite of a parent's job of preparing their child to successfully function and prosper in the real world. You have some really twisted ideas.

Just a statistical observation. For example it was presented on TV, that certain "intellectuals" such as teachers and psychologists, find it unacceptable and unbearable, if their child doesn't go for high academia. Also, some sportsman parents don't tolerate if their child is not a leading talent in some school team. And so on. Parents usually say they serve best by maximizing their child's achievement, whilst doing nothing but controlling the child to its ruin, like roads to hell paved with good will and such. :)

Parents, like anybody else, have different ideas about what a person must learn to be successful in life. Making sure your children learn those things is a far cry from controlling every aspect of their lives.
Can you give a few examples of these different ideas? Are they diametrically opposite?

I'm sure some of them could be diametrically opposed.Some parents think proficiency at sports, and the required teamwork is important for future success. Others believe math is a main priority. Still others might think music, or a strong background in literature. Some believe all that is a waste, and put less emphasis on formal education in favor of hard work on a farm.
 
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A Godly person wouldn't watch this trash.

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Usually parents have the actions described in the OP, especially when those parents are teachers or other academics. I find that perents think helping children is the same as helping themselves in their own terms, regardless of the environment of the children. Therefore, if we remove God from the idea of life, then we end up with a self destructive process, that is also judged predatorially.

No, controlling all aspects of the environment and personal capabilities of the life they start is not a parent's job, and is the exact opposite of a parent's job of preparing their child to successfully function and prosper in the real world. You have some really twisted ideas.

Just a statistical observation. For example it was presented on TV, that certain "intellectuals" such as teachers and psychologists, find it unacceptable and unbearable, if their child doesn't go for high academia. Also, some sportsman parents don't tolerate if their child is not a leading talent in some school team. And so on. Parents usually say they serve best by maximizing their child's achievement, whilst doing nothing but controlling the child to its ruin, like roads to hell paved with good will and such. :)

Parents, like anybody else, have different ideas about what a person must learn to be successful in life. Making sure your children learn those things is a far cry from controlling every aspect of their lives.
Can you give a few examples of these different ideas? Are they diametrically opposite?

I'm sure some of them could be diametrically opposed.Some parents think proficiency at sports, and the required teamwork is important for future success. Others believe math is a main priority. Still others might think music, or a strong background in literature. Some believe all that is a waste, and put less emphasis on formal education in favor of hard work on a farm.
None of those seem diametrically opposed. Diametrically opposed would be, Billy go and study and work hard at what you want to do, rather than Billy, go and ass fuck big tittited cheerleaders and coast through life whenever you can without ever worrying about any consequences to yourself or others.
 
Life without god is possible, humans are proof of that, since there's actually zero proof that a real god exists, ipso facto, we've already been living without god.
 
God has made life possible. Religion is humans' attempt to explain God, and unfortunately more often than not use God as a pretext for their own concepts.

God is real.
Religion is fantasy.
 
Life without god is possible, humans are proof of that, since there's actually zero proof that a real god exists, ipso facto, we've already been living without god.
None of this would be here. The universe is a self referential system.
 
Life without god is possible, humans are proof of that, since there's actually zero proof that a real god exists, ipso facto, we've already been living without god.
None of this would be here. The universe is a self referential system.
I don't see a god, and same for a lot of people. So I'm living without a god. And your lack of proof of any singular creator of this universe proves that I can live without a god.
 
Life without god is possible, humans are proof of that, since there's actually zero proof that a real god exists, ipso facto, we've already been living without god.

The programmatic nature of human minds seems to point the opposite direction.
 
Life without god is possible, humans are proof of that, since there's actually zero proof that a real god exists, ipso facto, we've already been living without god.

Wrong!! Alec Baldwin clearly proclaimed that he was God. I saw it on TV.
 

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