Carla_Danger
Platinum Member
Your link from RealClearPolitics is full of ad hominem and criticism of specific media outlets.
Please be specific. The link does use MSNBC as an illustration to support the point made, but I didn't see any specific criticism of it. Could you give me an example of ad hominem from the article because I definitely did miss that.
Really, you don't?
Nope. So please post the specific quotation that would show that criticism and the specific quotation that would be classified ad hominem.
Below is an ad hominem attack (from your link)
MSNBC had thought it could mimic Fox News’ success from the left. The problem is that it never understood what Fox News is.
Other MSNBC stars are being followed around by the Grim Reaper. Al Sharpton, a race-baiting tax cheat with blood on his hands, is slated to be moved out of his 6 p.m. slot, presumably so he can spend more time with his wayward teleprompter.
Furthermore, MSNBC is not liberal media, it is a corporate conglomerate. They fired Donahue in 2003 because of his anti Iraq war stance.
You're using a biased opinion piece, yet are asking us to post by a different set of standards. Why is that?
Conceding that '. . .presumably so he can spend more time with his wayward teleprompter. . . ' is ad hominem. The description of Sharpton as a 'race-baiting tax cheat. . . ' is insulting, and was meant to be, but is not ad hominem. Neither, however, change the points that Goldberg is making in his piece. As for MSNBC's political leanings, every single media poll offered in the last 10 years has ranked it the most left of all the mainstream media sources out there. You can object to that but please do it on a different thread and let's don't derail this one with a discussion about that. IMO, Goldberg is more than justified in using it as his 'canary in the coal mine.'
You haven't defined liberalism, or offered any proof that it's exhausted, just a biased opinion piece instead. I guess this debate is over, because there never really was one to begin with.