Zone1 Is Judaism incurable?

[Woodznutz]

Judaism is a political program for Jewish supremacy.

Deuteronomy 7:

1 When the LORD thy God shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath
cast out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the
Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and
mightier than thou; (from the Nile, to Turkey, to Baghdad)
2 And when the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly
destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:
3 Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor
his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son.
4 For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods: so will the
anger of the LORD be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly.
5 But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and
cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire.
6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a
special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.

22 And the LORD thy God will put out those nations before thee by little and little: thou mayest
not consume them at once, lest the beasts of the field increase upon thee.
23 But the LORD thy God shall deliver them unto thee, and shall destroy them with a mighty
destruction, until they be destroyed.
24 And he shall deliver their kings into thine hand, and thou shalt destroy their name from under
heaven: there shall no man be able to stand before thee, until thou have destroyed them.

Deuteronomy 20:

10 When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace unto it.
11 And it shall be, if it make thee answer of peace, and open unto thee, then it shall be, that all the
people that is found therein shall be tributaries unto thee, and they shall serve thee.
12 And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege
it:
13 And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male
thereof with the edge of the sword:
14 But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil
thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the
LORD thy God hath given thee.
15 Thus shalt thou do unto all the cities which are very far off from thee, which are not of the
cities of these nations.
16 But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance,
thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:

These were instructions for all of Israel, not just the Jews. Recall that many American Christians believed that much of Manifest Destiny was patterned after the Israelite conquest of Canaan.

Also, some religious scholars, then and now, believed that many of the indigenous Indians were actually descendants of the ancient Amalekites, that God had ordered Israel to utterly destroy. Further justification for their destruction or pacification.

 

[Street Juice]

If only you understood that as Jews do.

Well, why don't you explain how Jews understand "above all people that are upon the face of the earth" as anything but Jewish supremacy.

It has nothing to do with you.

And the genocide in Gaza has nothing to do with the Palestinians.

 

[Street Juice]

OTOH,

• Tocqueville on religion.
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• Alexis de Tocqueville, a liberal thinker, argued that morality, religion, and order do not need to be opposed to liberty and the equality of men before the law. In his work "Democracy in America," Tocqueville contended that religion provided the moral and ethical foundation necessary for democratic life. He believed that religion instilled a sense of morality and self-restraint among individuals.

Yes religion is vitally important. Religious insanity, not so much.

 

[Street Juice]

No, I said you are a non entity. Non Jews are very important in Judaism. They hold an important place our holiday rituals (specifically sukkot). You, however, do not matter.

This is how we know Judaism isn't even a real religion. Religion has to do with how we treat each other as individuals. Full stop. It is the realm of love, friendship, morals. Judaism is group level only. Therefore, it is a political program. Nothing more. No real religion would hold two different moralities between individuals based on who their parents were.

Deuteronomy 23:

19 Thou shalt not lend upon usury to thy brother; usury of money, usury of victuals, usury of any thing that is lent upon usury:
20 Unto a stranger thou mayest lend upon usury; but unto thy brother thou shalt not lend upon usury: that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all that thou settest thine hand to in the land whither thou goest to possess it.

Political program only for world supremacy. And of course you will falsely claim otherwise. It's part of the program.

 

[Street Juice]

These were instructions for all of Israel, not just the Jews. Recall that many American Christians believed that much of Manifest Destiny was patterned after the Israelite conquest of Canaan.

Also, some religious scholars, then and now, believed that many of the indigenous Indians were actually descendants of the ancient Amalekites, that God had ordered Israel to utterly destroy. Further justification for their destruction or pacification.

So, as a Sioux, should I lie down and be slaughtered? If a European calls me an "anti-European," shouldn't I just laugh in his face? If he accuses me of hate, shouldn't I say, but of course? If he tells me his God gave him the right to take my land, shouldn't I point out that his God isn't my God and that my God told me to bury a hatchet in his skull?

 

[Street Juice]

Sure we do. You really are clueless about Judaism.

Oh really? All Jews go to heaven when they die? Do some go to hell? Is it the same heaven and hell shared with the gentiles?

 

[alang1216]

I hate Judaism. It is destroying my people and my civilization. It would be irrational not to hate it.

Who are your people and how are Jews destroying it?

Almost all Jews, today, believe or claim to believe that antisemitism is a real thing.

Anti-Semitism IS real thing. You are proof of that.

That is to say, they believe that within every gentile lies an antisemite--however dormant it may be--that may come bursting forth for no reason and without warning at any moment.

That is absurd. I can safely say that no matter the subject, you will find Jews that agree and Jews that don't. They are human beings like all others. Sorry.

Jewish behavior shares no blame whatsoever--ever--in even the smallest amount--for any negative feelings a gentile may have towards the Jews.

Matthew 27:25: All the people answered, “His blood is on us and on our children!”

 

[gipper]

These were instructions for all of Israel, not just the Jews. Recall that many American Christians believed that much of Manifest Destiny was patterned after the Israelite conquest of Canaan.

Also, some religious scholars, then and now, believed that many of the indigenous Indians were actually descendants of the ancient Amalekites, that God had ordered Israel to utterly destroy. Further justification for their destruction or pacification.

The Dangerous History Behind Netanyahu’s Amalek Rhetoric​

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[Street Juice]

Anti-Semitism IS real thing. You are proof of that.

No, my opposition to Jewish power is rational and based on Jewish behavior.

 

[alang1216]

No, my opposition to Jewish power is rational and based on Jewish behavior.

What behavior? You've only quoted peoples words so far.

 

[rosends]

Well, why don't you explain how Jews understand "above all people that are upon the face of the earth" as anything but Jewish supremacy.

First, get an accurate translation, "For you are a people consecrated to your God of all the peoples on earth your God chose you to be God’s treasured people."

So, no "above".

Then learn what "treasured" indicates - " For you have no chief, overseer, or ruler among all the angels on high, but you are the treasure of G-d under His power, and, therefore, you should not go astray to serve idols from among the gods of the peoples."

And the genocide in Gaza has nothing to do with the Palestinians.

No genocide. You don't know English either.

 

[rosends]

Oh really? All Jews go to heaven when they die? Do some go to hell? Is it the same heaven and hell shared with the gentiles?

In order:

Almost all, eventually.
Yes.
Yes.

Next?

 

[Woodznutz]

So, as a Sioux, should I lie down and be slaughtered? If a European calls me an "anti-European," shouldn't I just laugh in his face? If he accuses me of hate, shouldn't I say, but of course? If he tells me his God gave him the right to take my land, shouldn't I point out that his God isn't my God and that my God told me to bury a hatchet in his skull?

Good points.

 

[Woodznutz]

First, get an accurate translation, "For you are a people consecrated to your God of all the peoples on earth your God chose you to be God’s treasured people."

So, no "above".

Then learn what "treasured" indicates - " For you have no chief, overseer, or ruler among all the angels on high, but you are the treasure of G-d under His power, and, therefore, you should not go astray to serve idols from among the gods of the peoples."


No genocide. You don't know English either.

Actually, treasure and above appear in the same verse, a reference to all Israel, not just the tribe of Judah.

5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine: (KJV)

 

[rosends]

Actually, treasure and above appear in the same verse, a reference to all Israel, not just the tribe of Judah.

5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine: (KJV)

Look in the Hebrew. The word for "above" isn't there. Can you understand that. The preposition prefix is "from".

 

[Woodznutz]

Look in the Hebrew. The word for "above" isn't there. Can you understand that. The preposition prefix is "from".

You are correct. The Hebrew word for above has many meanings, some of which appear to be appropriate for the context of those verses. Why it wasn't used is curious. That said the English word above, meaning to favor in this case, is certainly fitting.

 

[rosends]

You are correct. The Hebrew word for above has many meanings, some of which appear to be appropriate for the context of those verses. Why it wasn't used is curious. That said the English word above, meaning to favor in this case, is certainly fitting.

Claiming something is fitting comes from your interpretive bias. The text says from. The claim that is says above is demonstrably false.

 

[irosie91]

You are correct. The Hebrew word for above has many meanings, some of which appear to be appropriate for the context of those verses. Why it wasn't used is curious. That said the English word above, meaning to favor in this case, is certainly fitting.

the people who can interpret THEIR SCRIPTURAL WRITINGS---are the people from whom the scriptural writings originated. <<<
That means----USA christians should not try to interpret the
RAMAYANA, the BAGHAVAD GITA, the KORAN or ---the book
they call "THE OLD TESTAMENT" Jewish scholars interpreted the
"OLD TESTAMENT" and came up with the MISHNAHS and the TALMUD. Islamic scholars interpreted the Koran and came
up with SHARIAH LAW. The Catholic Church interpreted the "NEW TESTAMENT" and came up with JUSTINIAN CODE and
the INQUISITION and their ramifications.

 

[Street Juice]

What behavior? You've only quoted peoples words so far.

OK, let's start with the passage of the 1965 Immigration and Nationality Act--the deliberate removal of the previous policy which, like virtually every other country in the world, prevented immigration policy from changing the demographics of a country. (Not nearly so "racist" as Israels, which is the most racist immigration policy in the world.) The Jewish owned press lied about what it would do and called opponents "racists" and, when, mysteriously, JFK turned up shot, was signed into law by Johnson at the foot of the Statue of Liberty. That evening, October 3, 1965, Jews across NYC celebrated their great victory over the gentiles.

(And the "people's words" I've quoted so far is the word of your psychopathic wilderness slaughter-god.)

 

[Street Juice]

Jewish scholars interpreted the
"OLD TESTAMENT" and came up with the MISHNAHS and the TALMUD.

...and the Old Testament--bloody, vicious, racist, genocidal, and psychopathic as it is--is a Hallmark card compared to the Talmud. And the Talmud is still studied and followed today. The Inquisition ended centuries ago.

Isn't it about time for your nap?