Is It Wrong to Think Homosexuality is a Sin?

[Taz]

The problem with "perfect" is that one would have to have a comparison. So, if we say no one is perfect, we mean we know what a perfect person would be while also saying such a being cannot be.
So, how do we know we aren't perfect? Isn't that really just saying we aren't satisfied? And, perhaps, being unsatisfied is the perfect thing to be.

..to me, humans are imperfect
..we murder for any number of reasons--nonsensical reasons
..humans do the most nonsensical things--one of them is committing suicide along with murdering wives/children
..they do things like jumping from cliffs/buildings/etc--that sometimes result in death
..most airplane crashes are human error
..we know we are imperfect
...and we have wars--that kill millions/destroy/etc--!!!! ''god creates'' humans that kill millions of other humans ??!!

no--we are imperfect and god creating us as ''perfect''' makes no reasonable sense
..

The moral law is what we ought to do, not what we do do.

Why would you think that unless everything were perfect there could be no God?

Nobody expected god to be perfect.

 

[ding]

The problem with "perfect" is that one would have to have a comparison. So, if we say no one is perfect, we mean we know what a perfect person would be while also saying such a being cannot be.
So, how do we know we aren't perfect? Isn't that really just saying we aren't satisfied? And, perhaps, being unsatisfied is the perfect thing to be.

..to me, humans are imperfect
..we murder for any number of reasons--nonsensical reasons
..humans do the most nonsensical things--one of them is committing suicide along with murdering wives/children
..they do things like jumping from cliffs/buildings/etc--that sometimes result in death
..most airplane crashes are human error
..we know we are imperfect
...and we have wars--that kill millions/destroy/etc--!!!! ''god creates'' humans that kill millions of other humans ??!!

no--we are imperfect and god creating us as ''perfect''' makes no reasonable sense
..

The moral law is what we ought to do, not what we do do.

Why would you think that unless everything were perfect there could be no God?

Nobody expected god to be perfect.

We are to never think of God's power or perfection in terms of sheer omnipotence. We are to think of God's power and perfection in terms of purpose. Could God create perfection through his sheer omnipotence? Sure, but then it would defeat his purpose which in reality would be a weakness. God's purpose isn't to achieve a certain outcome. God's purpose is to achieve a certain outcome under certain conditions. You are being tested; purified. It isn't virtuous for you to be made to be virtuous, Taz. You have to choose to be virtuous to actually be virtuous.

 

[Taz]

The problem with "perfect" is that one would have to have a comparison. So, if we say no one is perfect, we mean we know what a perfect person would be while also saying such a being cannot be.
So, how do we know we aren't perfect? Isn't that really just saying we aren't satisfied? And, perhaps, being unsatisfied is the perfect thing to be.

..to me, humans are imperfect
..we murder for any number of reasons--nonsensical reasons
..humans do the most nonsensical things--one of them is committing suicide along with murdering wives/children
..they do things like jumping from cliffs/buildings/etc--that sometimes result in death
..most airplane crashes are human error
..we know we are imperfect
...and we have wars--that kill millions/destroy/etc--!!!! ''god creates'' humans that kill millions of other humans ??!!

no--we are imperfect and god creating us as ''perfect''' makes no reasonable sense
..

The moral law is what we ought to do, not what we do do.

Why would you think that unless everything were perfect there could be no God?

Nobody expected god to be perfect.

We are to never think of God's power or perfection in terms of sheer omnipotence. We are to think of God's power and perfection in terms of purpose. Could God create perfection through his sheer omnipotence? Sure, but then it would defeat his purpose which in reality would be a weakness. God's purpose isn't to achieve a certain outcome. God's purpose is to achieve a certain outcome under certain conditions. You are being tested; purified. It isn't virtuous for you to be made to be virtuous, Taz. You have to choose to be virtuous to actually be virtuous.

"God's purpose isn't to achieve a certain outcome. God's purpose is to achieve a certain outcome"

You peeps sure have a lot of dumb excuses to scapegoat god's deficiencies. So god's not actually perfect, that's why we have deformed babies and cancer?

 

[RodISHI]

. So god's not actually perfect, that's why we have deformed babies and cancer?

Actually you should be asking why do humans keep messing up the creation with their crap that creates deformed babies.

 

[Taz]

. So god's not actually perfect, that's why we have deformed babies and cancer?

Actually you should be asking why do humans keep messing up the creation with their crap that creates deformed babies.

Deformed babies, disease and cancer were happening a long time before the industrial revolution. Want to try again?

 

[there4eyeM]

If we accept that we are imperfect, we accept that we cannot know what perfection is. If one accepts this and believes in 'God', then there is, thus, no basis upon which to criticize 'God'. If one accepts this and does not believe in 'God', then there can be no basis for criticism of others for not being perfect.

 

[JW Frogen]

It depends on how much you think about it?

If it is more than once a day, you are probably gay.

 

[Flash]

Being gay is fine. I mean, really, who cares? It doesnt effect anyone except for that person and who he/she chooses to be with
You can think of it in any way you want. Being wrong or "sinful" is completely subjective.
Voice it if you want!

Queer butthurt sure as hell hurt the baker who had to pay out money because he didn't want to cater to a queer wedding.

 

[cnm]

"God's purpose isn't to achieve a certain outcome. God's purpose is to achieve a certain outcome"

 

[cnm]

If we accept that we are imperfect, we accept that we cannot know what perfection is.

I'm not so sure. How can we say we haven't reached a mark if we don't know where the mark is?

 

[RodISHI]

. So god's not actually perfect, that's why we have deformed babies and cancer?

Actually you should be asking why do humans keep messing up the creation with their crap that creates deformed babies.

Deformed babies, disease and cancer were happening a long time before the industrial revolution. Want to try again?

No need to try again. People have screwed (cursed) themselves up for ages.

 

[Taz]

. So god's not actually perfect, that's why we have deformed babies and cancer?

Actually you should be asking why do humans keep messing up the creation with their crap that creates deformed babies.

Deformed babies, disease and cancer were happening a long time before the industrial revolution. Want to try again?

No need to try again. People have screwed (cursed) themselves up for ages.

How does a baby that hasn't been born yet screw things up for itself?

 

[RodISHI]

. So god's not actually perfect, that's why we have deformed babies and cancer?

Actually you should be asking why do humans keep messing up the creation with their crap that creates deformed babies.

Deformed babies, disease and cancer were happening a long time before the industrial revolution. Want to try again?

No need to try again. People have screwed (cursed) themselves up for ages.

How does a baby that hasn't been born yet screw things up for itself?

Its parents play a part in that.

 

[Taz]

. So god's not actually perfect, that's why we have deformed babies and cancer?

Actually you should be asking why do humans keep messing up the creation with their crap that creates deformed babies.

Deformed babies, disease and cancer were happening a long time before the industrial revolution. Want to try again?

No need to try again. People have screwed (cursed) themselves up for ages.

How does a baby that hasn't been born yet screw things up for itself?

Its parents play a part in that.

So you're saying that parents are always responsible for a child with downs syndrome or cancer or deformed?

 

[RodISHI]

Actually you should be asking why do humans keep messing up the creation with their crap that creates deformed babies.

Deformed babies, disease and cancer were happening a long time before the industrial revolution. Want to try again?

No need to try again. People have screwed (cursed) themselves up for ages.

How does a baby that hasn't been born yet screw things up for itself?

Its parents play a part in that.

So you're saying that parents are always responsible for a child with downs syndrome or cancer or deformed?

I am saying that humankind in general are the cause their own miseries. You apparently seem to want to lay that off on God instead of putting the fault where it belongs with failed human precepts.

God isn't going to stand in the way of you walking out in front of a bulldozer if that is what you determine you want to do. After all the Lord does give each its hearts desire and if you give yourself over to the son of perdition side in you and you desire to walk away from the spirit of truth or look the other way when it is there in front of you that is on you not the spirit of God.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Deformed babies, disease and cancer were happening a long time before the industrial revolution. Want to try again?

No need to try again. People have screwed (cursed) themselves up for ages.

How does a baby that hasn't been born yet screw things up for itself?

Its parents play a part in that.

So you're saying that parents are always responsible for a child with downs syndrome or cancer or deformed?

I am saying that humankind in general are the cause their own miseries. You apparently seem to want to lay that off on God instead of putting the fault where it belongs with failed human precepts.

God isn't going to stand in the way of you walking out in front of a bulldozer if that is what you determine you want to do. After all the Lord does give each its hearts desire and if you give yourself over to the son of perdition side in you and you desire to walk away from the spirit of truth or look the other way when it is there in front of you that is on you not the spirit of God.

Humankind is the cause of down Syndrome?

What the hell is wrong with you?

 

[RodISHI]

No need to try again. People have screwed (cursed) themselves up for ages.

How does a baby that hasn't been born yet screw things up for itself?

Its parents play a part in that.

So you're saying that parents are always responsible for a child with downs syndrome or cancer or deformed?

I am saying that humankind in general are the cause their own miseries. You apparently seem to want to lay that off on God instead of putting the fault where it belongs with failed human precepts.

God isn't going to stand in the way of you walking out in front of a bulldozer if that is what you determine you want to do. After all the Lord does give each its hearts desire and if you give yourself over to the son of perdition side in you and you desire to walk away from the spirit of truth or look the other way when it is there in front of you that is on you not the spirit of God.

Humankind is the cause of down Syndrome?

What the hell is wrong with you?

Are your mutated chromosomes having a meltdown?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

How does a baby that hasn't been born yet screw things up for itself?

Its parents play a part in that.

So you're saying that parents are always responsible for a child with downs syndrome or cancer or deformed?

I am saying that humankind in general are the cause their own miseries. You apparently seem to want to lay that off on God instead of putting the fault where it belongs with failed human precepts.

God isn't going to stand in the way of you walking out in front of a bulldozer if that is what you determine you want to do. After all the Lord does give each its hearts desire and if you give yourself over to the son of perdition side in you and you desire to walk away from the spirit of truth or look the other way when it is there in front of you that is on you not the spirit of God.

Humankind is the cause of down Syndrome?

What the hell is wrong with you?

Are your mutated chromosomes having a meltdown?

So you do or do not believe that? A high intellect like yours should have no problem with this question.

 

[RodISHI]

Its parents play a part in that.

So you're saying that parents are always responsible for a child with downs syndrome or cancer or deformed?

I am saying that humankind in general are the cause their own miseries. You apparently seem to want to lay that off on God instead of putting the fault where it belongs with failed human precepts.

God isn't going to stand in the way of you walking out in front of a bulldozer if that is what you determine you want to do. After all the Lord does give each its hearts desire and if you give yourself over to the son of perdition side in you and you desire to walk away from the spirit of truth or look the other way when it is there in front of you that is on you not the spirit of God.

Humankind is the cause of down Syndrome?

What the hell is wrong with you?

Are your mutated chromosomes having a meltdown?

So you do or do not believe that? A high intellect like yours should have no problem with this question.

I already stated what I believe if you do not like that statement press on.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So you're saying that parents are always responsible for a child with downs syndrome or cancer or deformed?

I am saying that humankind in general are the cause their own miseries. You apparently seem to want to lay that off on God instead of putting the fault where it belongs with failed human precepts.

God isn't going to stand in the way of you walking out in front of a bulldozer if that is what you determine you want to do. After all the Lord does give each its hearts desire and if you give yourself over to the son of perdition side in you and you desire to walk away from the spirit of truth or look the other way when it is there in front of you that is on you not the spirit of God.

Humankind is the cause of down Syndrome?

What the hell is wrong with you?

Are your mutated chromosomes having a meltdown?

So you do or do not believe that? A high intellect like yours should have no problem with this question.

I already stated what I believe if you do not like that statement press on.

Yes, you stated that humanity is responsible for it's own problems. By inclusion, that would include Down Syndrome. Since this makes you seem like a fucking moron, we are giving you the chance to clarify your comments .

So....go ahead.