CDZ Is it time for Socialism in the U.S.?

[Pumpkin Row]

So do you have any idea what the tax rates are in Iceland?

Are you thinking you can prove me wrong by pointing out one exception among the many examples I can use to back up my claim?

No, it does not. Norway for example produces more GDP per capita than we do.

Considering our failure in leadership, and the attempts to socialize our Free-Market, I'm not the least bit surprised. Also, by your logic, the Monarchy of Qatar should the perfect model for everyone, because it has the highest GDP Per Capita in the world.

Lol, so if someone has their job exported they and their children should just starve and live in the streets till they can get another one?

No, they go get another job, because unregulated businesses produce more than enough jobs, at a high enough rate, that talented, non-lazy workers can always find them.

This is why the GOP needs to overhaul its leadership and dump all the heartless bastages who couldnt give a shit less about the misfortune that their own economic policies create.

The only thing creating misfortune are the failed economic policies of socialist politicians. Since the founding and rise of this nation, Free-Market Capitalism has been proven the best economically, out-performing every other country at all times, so long as politicians have kept their grubby mitts off of it. Every depression and/or recession has been a result of a politician trying to 'fix' our capitalist economy, because they think it can run better, despite creating the greatest nation on earth by allowing our Free-Market Capitalism to run itself, and repair itself.

Paraplegics are not lazy. Crippled veterans are not lazy. Retired people are not lazy. People that think they are are going to swept aside in the very near future.

If you're retiring, you should already have saved enough money to start with. If not, you can thank the government squandering all the money they stole from you to pay for their 160+ useless agencies, and the lazy people sitting at home, collecting Federal Aid and choosing not to work, as a result of Socialist Programs.

The only time I condone any form of Federal Aid is for Veterans, because they earned it by being the best among us, and serving their country with honor and dignity, and people who are missing/cannot use one or more limbs. Otherwise, they can go find a job.


Never mind the facts that prove otherwise, right Einstein?

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Afghanistan(Twice), Albania(Three times), Angola, Benin, Bulgaria, Cambodia(Twice), Congo-Brazzaville, Czechoslovakia(twice), Ethiopia(twice), Germany, Hungary, North Korea, Mongolia, Mozambique, Poland, Romania, Somalia, Russia, North Vietnam, South Yemen, Yugoslavia, Venezuela, Greece. You know, in case you wanted facts for how many Socialist countries have failed.

 

[Kristian]

Forever Liberalism in the U.S.

 

[MarathonMike]

It will never be time for Socialism in the US.

 

[yiostheoy]

Between Kshama Sawant's reelection to the Seattle council and the phenomenal popularity of the Sanders campaign it seems many in the U.S. electorate are now more opened minded to the idea of overtly socialists candidates. What can we expect in the future? Also there seems to be some dispute over what socialism is. Some might define it as state control over production and distribution while others describe it as either social or workers' control. Whichever, how do you define it and what developments do you expect for the future?

George Orwell gave his own first-hand observation of socialism in action during the Spanish Civil War description:

"I had dropped more or less by chance into the only community of any size in Western Europe where political consciousness and disbelief in capitalism were more normal than their opposites. Up here in Aragon one was among tens of thousands of people, mainly though not entirely of working-class origin, all living at the same level and mingling on terms of equality. In theory it was perfect equality, and even in practice it was not far from it. There is a sense in which it would be true to say that one was experiencing a foretaste of Socialism, by which I mean that the prevailing mental atmosphere was that of Socialism. Many of the normal motives of civilized life-snobbishness, money-grubbing, fear of the boss, etc.-had simply ceased to exist. The ordinary class-division of society had disappeared to an extent that is almost unthinkable in the money-tainted air of England; there was no one there except the peasants and ourselves, and no one owned anyone else as his master...One had breathed the air of equality. I am well aware that it is now the fashion to deny that Socialism has anything to do with equality. In every country in the world a huge tribe of party-hacks and sleek little professors are busy 'proving' that Socialism means no more than a planned state-capitalism with the grab-motive left intact. But fortunately there also exists a vision of Socialism quite different from this." George Orwell - Homage to Catalonia

Sanders went too far.

Free college is a state issue not Federal.

If a state is so rich that they can afford free college for their kids then yahoo!

The Fed's are not that rich. The Fed's have deficits just paying interest on the debt to rich people, social security back to poor people and everyone else who paid into it, Medicare for the old sick people, and military buildup around the world because nobody else in the world of nations can afford to.

 

[yiostheoy]

We've had all things that Orwell warned of of Nineteen Eighty-Four since 2002. It's not like there are any boogeymen left to scare people with. It will happen gradually.

Didn't you just love more tax cuts for the rich under W. in 2005?

 

[yiostheoy]

Socialism is unconstitutional and it's adherents be re-educated. 'Nuff said.

You must not have read the U.S. Constitution in a long time because you seem to have forgotten it.

Try reading it again.

It starts with "In order to ... promote the general welfare ... ."

 

[Hossfly]

Socialism is unconstitutional and it's adherents be re-educated. 'Nuff said.

You must not have read the U.S. Constitution in a long time because you seem to have forgotten it.

Try reading it again.

It starts with "In order to ... promote the general welfare ... ."

Right. Socialism it is. I should have known.

 

[Agit8r]

We've had all things that Orwell warned of of Nineteen Eighty-Four since 2002. It's not like there are any boogeymen left to scare people with. It will happen gradually.

Didn't you just love more tax cuts for the rich under W. in 2005?

Don't forget lots of tax giveaways to the Proles.