Is it time for a legitimate third party?

[dblack]

You have no point, you are fighting for a "Freedom" that does not exist. I am not even sure you understand what a freedom is. Using your logic I should be able to go in any house I want, drive any car I want...regardless of who owns either.

For decades, liberals have been wanking to the concept of "positive liberty" vs "negative liberty". Negative liberty is what we traditionally think of as individual rights. The freedom to act unimpeded by other people: government or other members of society. "Positive liberty" isn't liberty at all, it's the power to force others to accommodate your interests. That's how they spin up crap like a "right to health care" or a "right to a job".

 

[wamose]

trumpers put trump first, all other repubs are "rinos." the constitution, to trump, is a sacred document that lawyers are paid to find ways around.

You got it all wrong Ramster. The establishment are the robber barons and Trump is the last firewall preventing them from destroying our country. And don't you find it interesting that the establishment Republicans, RINOS, are all claiming to back Harris, the Democrat establishments face, in an effort to preserve their ability to rob our taxpayers. RINOs are why people came to feel unrepresented in the Republican party and soon, their woke counterparts in the Democrat party will feel the same type of rebellion from their followers. The goal is to preserve government of, by and for the people. MAGA

 

[JoeB131]

For decades, liberals have been wanking to the concept of "positive liberty" vs "negative liberty". Negative liberty is what we traditionally think of as individual rights. The freedom to act unimpeded by other people: government or other members of society. "Positive liberty" isn't liberty at all, it's the power to force others to accommodate your interests. That's how they spin up crap like a "right to health care" or a "right to a job".

The problem with Libertards is that they think that "Liberty" is the ability of those with power and wealth to abuse the rest of us.

 

[dblack]

The problem with Libertards is that they think that "Liberty" is the ability of those with power and wealth to abuse the rest of us.

No. They don't. Got any more misconceptions you'd like to clear up?

 

[jc456]

What really cracks me up is that none of these demofks would vote for scamala if she were running in a primary with Pritzker or Newsom or Whitmer. So they are truly voting for the 5th grader in this election.

 

[jc456]

The problem with Libertards is that they think that "Liberty" is the ability of those with power and wealth to abuse the rest of us.

can't disagree with that one. Bravo dude.

 

[jc456]

For decades, liberals have been wanking to the concept of "positive liberty" vs "negative liberty". Negative liberty is what we traditionally think of as individual rights. The freedom to act unimpeded by other people: government or other members of society. "Positive liberty" isn't liberty at all, it's the power to force others to accommodate your interests. That's how they spin up crap like a "right to health care" or a "right to a job".

disinformation is merely speech that demofks don't like and speaks differently then them. complete lack of liberty.

 

[dblack]

disinformation is merely speech that demofks don't like and speaks differently then them. complete lack of liberty.

What's that got to do with the post you responded to? Are you just muttering to yourself again?

 

[dblack]

can't disagree with that one. Bravo dude.

Fascist Trumpsters and Fascist Dems are often on the same page.

 

[jc456]

Fascist Trumpsters and Fascist Dems are often on the same page.

You really should educate yourself on what fascism is

 

[dblack]

You really should educate yourself on what fascism is

With so many shining examples here on the board, it's easy to keep track of.

 

[jc456]

With so many shining examples here on the board, it's easy to keep track of.

That’s why you should educate yourself

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I would love at least three parties if not four parties.

A Republic Makes Us Waiters at All Parties

 

[Kondor3]

You should have made this a Vote -style thread...

My vote would have been "Yes" .

We could call it the American Centrist Party.

Extreme wing-nuts Left (The Squad)) and Right (MTG et al) are not welcome.

 

[LeftofLeft]

A Republic Makes Us Waiters at All Parties

Not arguing against reality

 

[Natural Citizen]

We could call it the American Centrist Party.

There already exists a rather large American ''centrist'' demograph which is/has historically been just okay with thall of the bad, anti-liberty legislation coming from both theoretical sides of DC's party-of-one.

It's called ''the moderate vote.''

And that demograph has historically been the single-biggest threat to the cause of Individual liberty in America today.

 

[JoeB131]

No. They don't. Got any more misconceptions you'd like to clear up?

Nope. I don't hear any "Libertarians" stick up for gay rights or reproductive rights. They just like to whine that the government puts too many regulations on rich people trying to poison the water.

 

[Kondor3]

Nope. I don't hear any "Libertarians" stick up for gay rights

Why would they want to stick up for gays (sexual deviants and perverts)?

...

or reproductive rights...

Why would they want to stick up for the so-called right to slaughter innocent unborn babies?

 

[Curried Goats]

why do you only care about the black or guy person?

What about the Hispanic straight person?

The law protects those people as well. It protects people from discrimination in the cases of race, sex, religion or sexual orientation. I mentioned black and gay people because in this country there is a history of trying to deny black and gay people the freedom to eat at lunch counters of their choosing or stay in hotels of their choosing.

You have no point, you are fighting for a "Freedom" that does not exist.

In what way do you mean it doesn't exist? Legal freedoms are whatever society tells you they are. Freedom absent any law means I can do whatever the fuck I feel like.

I am not even sure you understand what a freedom is.

I'm not sure you do....

Using your logic I should be able to go in any house I want, drive any car I want...regardless of who owns either.

You don't have that freedom because the law prevents you just as it prevents business owners from denying people service based on sex, race, religion, or sexual orientation.

 

[Curried Goats]

For decades, liberals have been wanking to the concept of "positive liberty" vs "negative liberty". Negative liberty is what we traditionally think of as individual rights. The freedom to act unimpeded by other people: government or other members of society. "Positive liberty" isn't liberty at all, it's the power to force others to accommodate your interests. That's how they spin up crap like a "right to health care" or a "right to a job".

Or property rights and ownership....