Is it God’s right to kill us whenever he sees fit?

[GreatestIam]

In your case?

Probably.

IOW, you are not capable of a moral judgement.

Thanks, Christian. You made my case.

Regards
DL

You seem very angry. Are you okay?

More mentally and morally fit than you.

Regards
DL

Didn't you know SweetSue? GreatestIam the Nazi is greater than all God.

He is the final arbitrator of what is intellectually correct and what is ethical and moral.

He is omniscient and omnipotent.

Debate and discussion with him is useless and pointless, for he knows all and sees all before you even formulate your thoughts. . . .

I can agree that he or she is morally corrupt.

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

This life is a probationary mortal state. It is not the eternal state that the soul of mankind will dwell in forever. It is a temporary state that is made and controlled by God to give us learning and understanding and to test us to see if we are willing to choose good over evil. God is the overseer of this temporal state and it is his right and responsibility to decide when we are to come into this realm and when we are to leave it. This life is not the end all of our existence. We are eternal beings who have an eternal spirit and will be resurrected with an immortal body. Life goes on. This temporal state on earth is an infinitesimally small part of our eternal existence. It is not the reality of eternity that we all will live in forever immortally. It is a learning ground to learn how to have a body and to control it. It is a learning ground to go through difficult experiences that are not part of immortal life. God is the overseer of this mortal existence and has the right to control the outcome of this temporary state. This life is an opportunity to learn to walk by faith and to learn to overcome problems. It is an opportunity to be a good being of our own volition. It is a test to see if we will be faithful in being good beings when God is not before our very eyes. It is chance for us to exercise our free will to choose good over evil. It is only a temporary state of being in which God does have the power and authority to give life and take it. You cannot kill and immortal and eternal being. The commandment, "Thou shalt not kill" was given for this life only to we mortals. God is the overseer of this life and is not subject to this mortal commandment that he gave to mankind but He is the one who in over this life and controls all existence within it. He is God and this temporal existence is just that, TEMPORAL. His giving and taking of life in this world is not subject to eternal law. It is his right and duty to oversee this temporal progressive mortal state of mankind that was never designed for eternal existence but only to be temporary under his direction and wisdom.

Sounds like a load of crap but I will give you a chance to maker your case.

If God is controlling things to test us, tell us what he is testing with the abominations he created in this link and tell us your thought on both victims, mother and child.



Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

Is it God’s right to kill us whenever he sees fit?

“And taking life whenever He sees fit, however He sees fit, which is absolutely His right.”

http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/do-you-think-it-odd-that-your-god-never-acknowledges-you-is-that-rude.698104/page-17#post-20430365

SweetSue92 gave me this reply but I have hear many Christians echo this thinking which basically says that the law maker does not need to follow the law he dictates for the rest of us. I paraphrase, do as I say and not as I do.

This was in response to our chatting about the many times, as in the genocide of Noah’s day, the murder of Egypt’s first born and the 6 day torture of King David’s baby, all because God was angry with the parents. God kills us when he could just as easily cure us and picks the innocent to kill instead of the guilty.

Is do as I say and not as I do moral or immoral thinking?

Regards
DL

Yes. The Creator alone owns the Creation. He also controls the eternal destiny of all of us, which we cannot do for any we destroy. And ALL we can do is destroy. We have no ability to create. We have no ability to determine eternal destiny of those we destroy.

In short, He is God and we are not.

I'm sorry you seem not to understand these fundamentals and seem to be more interested in playing gotcha games. I really mean that--I am sorry about that.

The fundamental you ignore is that killing when you can just as easily cure is evil.

You also fail to see that to punish, torture and kill a child or baby because you are angry with the parents is also evil.

Your prick of a God does both.

Are you a mother and as a life giver, do you also give yourself the right to kill your creation?

Regards
DL

1. This ain't Heaven yet, and it's not eternity. God is under no obligation to cure in this life. Maybe that doesn't match your expectations, but then again, God really does not answer to you. Or me.

2. So you are pro-life then? You hate abortion too? A mother, once she has created a child for ANY reason--even if she has been violently raped--should never, ever "punish, torture, or kill a child or baby" because that would be wrong, correct?

3. I did not create my children. I could not do so even if I tried. I fell pregnant, and went about my life in the usual way while my body, coded by God the Creator, did its work. I didn't do it.

Last, if you continue to be nasty and combative, I'll put you on ignore. I almost did this time. It's not that your name-calling offends me or is anything new. It's that I'm not obligated to wade through angry trash to get to any points you're trying to make.

Why are you so angry, anyway?

Because immoral people like you give a satanic God a pass and cannot even admit creating life within you.

Your mental and moral dysfunction is duly noted.

I just put a link in the post above. Have a look and tell us why your good God would intentionally create those abominations that you would allow to live.

Regards
DL

 

[SweetSue92]

This life is a probationary mortal state. It is not the eternal state that the soul of mankind will dwell in forever. It is a temporary state that is made and controlled by God to give us learning and understanding and to test us to see if we are willing to choose good over evil. God is the overseer of this temporal state and it is his right and responsibility to decide when we are to come into this realm and when we are to leave it. This life is not the end all of our existence. We are eternal beings who have an eternal spirit and will be resurrected with an immortal body. Life goes on. This temporal state on earth is an infinitesimally small part of our eternal existence. It is not the reality of eternity that we all will live in forever immortally. It is a learning ground to learn how to have a body and to control it. It is a learning ground to go through difficult experiences that are not part of immortal life. God is the overseer of this mortal existence and has the right to control the outcome of this temporary state. This life is an opportunity to learn to walk by faith and to learn to overcome problems. It is an opportunity to be a good being of our own volition. It is a test to see if we will be faithful in being good beings when God is not before our very eyes. It is chance for us to exercise our free will to choose good over evil. It is only a temporary state of being in which God does have the power and authority to give life and take it. You cannot kill and immortal and eternal being. The commandment, "Thou shalt not kill" was given for this life only to we mortals. God is the overseer of this life and is not subject to this mortal commandment that he gave to mankind but He is the one who in over this life and controls all existence within it. He is God and this temporal existence is just that, TEMPORAL. His giving and taking of life in this world is not subject to eternal law. It is his right and duty to oversee this temporal progressive mortal state of mankind that was never designed for eternal existence but only to be temporary under his direction and wisdom.

Sounds like a load of crap but I will give you a chance to maker your case.

If God is controlling things to test us, tell us what he is testing with the abominations he created in this link and tell us your thought on both victims, mother and child.



Regards
DL

I fast forwarded through the video. I can see that it is like your posts--you really love your style don't you? Bombastic, meant to shock with images and words. Name calling first, if that doesn't work, cleft palates and malformed legs.

There is suffering. Because of sin. Some suffer because of nothing they did. Some suffer because of what they did. Some suffer for those they love. Some make those they love suffer. Some suffer for love.

Jesus suffered desperately for me, and took on the suffering all my sin deserved, so I don't have to suffer for eternity. You want to talk about not fair? That wasn't fair.

 

[GreatestIam]

Why are you so angry, anyway?

I am not angry. I am led by God to fight the evil you spew.

Both Christianity and Islam, slave holding ideologies, have basically developed into intolerant, homophobic and misogynous religions. Both religions have grown themselves by the sword instead of good deeds and continue with their immoral ways in spite of secular law showing them the moral ways.

Jesus said we would know his people by their works and deeds. That means Jesus would not recognize Christians and Muslims as his people, and neither do I. Jesus would call Christianity and Islam abominations.

Gnostic Christians did in the past, and I am proudly continuing that tradition and honest irrefutable evaluation based on morality.

The Theft of Our Values - Top Documentary Films



Humanity centered religions, good? Yes.

Supernaturally based religions, evil? Yes.

Do you agree?

Regards
DL

 

[SweetSue92]

Is it God’s right to kill us whenever he sees fit?

“And taking life whenever He sees fit, however He sees fit, which is absolutely His right.”

http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/do-you-think-it-odd-that-your-god-never-acknowledges-you-is-that-rude.698104/page-17#post-20430365

SweetSue92 gave me this reply but I have hear many Christians echo this thinking which basically says that the law maker does not need to follow the law he dictates for the rest of us. I paraphrase, do as I say and not as I do.

This was in response to our chatting about the many times, as in the genocide of Noah’s day, the murder of Egypt’s first born and the 6 day torture of King David’s baby, all because God was angry with the parents. God kills us when he could just as easily cure us and picks the innocent to kill instead of the guilty.

Is do as I say and not as I do moral or immoral thinking?

Regards
DL

Yes. The Creator alone owns the Creation. He also controls the eternal destiny of all of us, which we cannot do for any we destroy. And ALL we can do is destroy. We have no ability to create. We have no ability to determine eternal destiny of those we destroy.

In short, He is God and we are not.

I'm sorry you seem not to understand these fundamentals and seem to be more interested in playing gotcha games. I really mean that--I am sorry about that.

The fundamental you ignore is that killing when you can just as easily cure is evil.

You also fail to see that to punish, torture and kill a child or baby because you are angry with the parents is also evil.

Your prick of a God does both.

Are you a mother and as a life giver, do you also give yourself the right to kill your creation?

Regards
DL

1. This ain't Heaven yet, and it's not eternity. God is under no obligation to cure in this life. Maybe that doesn't match your expectations, but then again, God really does not answer to you. Or me.

2. So you are pro-life then? You hate abortion too? A mother, once she has created a child for ANY reason--even if she has been violently raped--should never, ever "punish, torture, or kill a child or baby" because that would be wrong, correct?

3. I did not create my children. I could not do so even if I tried. I fell pregnant, and went about my life in the usual way while my body, coded by God the Creator, did its work. I didn't do it.

Last, if you continue to be nasty and combative, I'll put you on ignore. I almost did this time. It's not that your name-calling offends me or is anything new. It's that I'm not obligated to wade through angry trash to get to any points you're trying to make.

Why are you so angry, anyway?

Because immoral people like you give a satanic God a pass and cannot even admit creating life within you.

Your mental and moral dysfunction is duly noted.

I just put a link in the post above. Have a look and tell us why your good God would intentionally create those abominations that you would allow to live.

Regards
DL

You have chose a serpent for your avatar. Are you a Satanist?

 

[GreatestIam]

Is it God’s right to kill us whenever he sees fit?

G-d doesn't kill us, we kill us.

Not in scriptures. That is all the satanic God.

Regards
DL

 

[fncceo]

Is it God’s right to kill us whenever he sees fit?

G-d doesn't kill us, we kill us.

Not in scriptures. That is all the satanic God.

Regards
DL

That depends on whose scriptures you're reading.

 

[fncceo]

You have chose a serpent for your avatar. Are you a Satanist?

 

[GreatestIam]

Is it God’s right to kill us whenever he sees fit?

“And taking life whenever He sees fit, however He sees fit, which is absolutely His right.”

http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/do-you-think-it-odd-that-your-god-never-acknowledges-you-is-that-rude.698104/page-17#post-20430365

SweetSue92 gave me this reply but I have hear many Christians echo this thinking which basically says that the law maker does not need to follow the law he dictates for the rest of us. I paraphrase, do as I say and not as I do.

This was in response to our chatting about the many times, as in the genocide of Noah’s day, the murder of Egypt’s first born and the 6 day torture of King David’s baby, all because God was angry with the parents. God kills us when he could just as easily cure us and picks the innocent to kill instead of the guilty.

Is do as I say and not as I do moral or immoral thinking?

Regards
DL

Yes. The Creator alone owns the Creation. He also controls the eternal destiny of all of us, which we cannot do for any we destroy. And ALL we can do is destroy. We have no ability to create. We have no ability to determine eternal destiny of those we destroy.

In short, He is God and we are not.

I'm sorry you seem not to understand these fundamentals and seem to be more interested in playing gotcha games. I really mean that--I am sorry about that.

The fundamental you ignore is that killing when you can just as easily cure is evil.

You also fail to see that to punish, torture and kill a child or baby because you are angry with the parents is also evil.

Your prick of a God does both.

Are you a mother and as a life giver, do you also give yourself the right to kill your creation?

Regards
DL

1. This ain't Heaven yet, and it's not eternity. God is under no obligation to cure in this life. Maybe that doesn't match your expectations, but then again, God really does not answer to you. Or me.

2. So you are pro-life then? You hate abortion too? A mother, once she has created a child for ANY reason--even if she has been violently raped--should never, ever "punish, torture, or kill a child or baby" because that would be wrong, correct?

3. I did not create my children. I could not do so even if I tried. I fell pregnant, and went about my life in the usual way while my body, coded by God the Creator, did its work. I didn't do it.

Last, if you continue to be nasty and combative, I'll put you on ignore. I almost did this time. It's not that your name-calling offends me or is anything new. It's that I'm not obligated to wade through angry trash to get to any points you're trying to make.

Why are you so angry, anyway?

Because immoral people like you give a satanic God a pass and cannot even admit creating life within you.

Your mental and moral dysfunction is duly noted.

I just put a link in the post above. Have a look and tell us why your good God would intentionally create those abominations that you would allow to live.

Regards
DL

You have chose a serpent for your avatar. Are you a Satanist?

You can't argue for your God or your immoral position so you pick on an avatar. What a pathetic mind.

But to answer your idiocy.

No. I leave it to those like you to follow a satanic God.

Have you noted though how few Satan kills in scriptures as compared to the genocidal prick you follow?

Which entity is more moral. Try to answer after you look up that word. You do not seem to know what it means.

Regards
DL

 

[SweetSue92]

Yes. The Creator alone owns the Creation. He also controls the eternal destiny of all of us, which we cannot do for any we destroy. And ALL we can do is destroy. We have no ability to create. We have no ability to determine eternal destiny of those we destroy.

In short, He is God and we are not.

I'm sorry you seem not to understand these fundamentals and seem to be more interested in playing gotcha games. I really mean that--I am sorry about that.

The fundamental you ignore is that killing when you can just as easily cure is evil.

You also fail to see that to punish, torture and kill a child or baby because you are angry with the parents is also evil.

Your prick of a God does both.

Are you a mother and as a life giver, do you also give yourself the right to kill your creation?

Regards
DL

1. This ain't Heaven yet, and it's not eternity. God is under no obligation to cure in this life. Maybe that doesn't match your expectations, but then again, God really does not answer to you. Or me.

2. So you are pro-life then? You hate abortion too? A mother, once she has created a child for ANY reason--even if she has been violently raped--should never, ever "punish, torture, or kill a child or baby" because that would be wrong, correct?

3. I did not create my children. I could not do so even if I tried. I fell pregnant, and went about my life in the usual way while my body, coded by God the Creator, did its work. I didn't do it.

Last, if you continue to be nasty and combative, I'll put you on ignore. I almost did this time. It's not that your name-calling offends me or is anything new. It's that I'm not obligated to wade through angry trash to get to any points you're trying to make.

Why are you so angry, anyway?

Because immoral people like you give a satanic God a pass and cannot even admit creating life within you.

Your mental and moral dysfunction is duly noted.

I just put a link in the post above. Have a look and tell us why your good God would intentionally create those abominations that you would allow to live.

Regards
DL

You have chose a serpent for your avatar. Are you a Satanist?

You can't argue for your God or your immoral position so you pick on an avatar. What a pathetic mind.

But to answer your idiocy.

No. I leave it to those like you to follow a satanic God.

Have you noted though how few Satan kills in scriptures as compared to the genocidal prick you follow?

Which entity is more moral. Try to answer after you look up that word. You do not seem to know what it means.

Regards
DL

Okay. Bye.

 

[GreatestIam]

Is it God’s right to kill us whenever he sees fit?

G-d doesn't kill us, we kill us.

Not in scriptures. That is all the satanic God.

Regards
DL

That depends on whose scriptures you're reading.

I know of none that show God in a better light than Satan in terms of the body count. What scripture do you know that show the opposite, or were you just trying to deflect or justify God's murders of children and babies?

Regards
DL

 

[SweetSue92]

You have chose a serpent for your avatar. Are you a Satanist?

JK Rowling. Fiction.

OTOH Satan is not fiction and worshipping him is dangerous. Your soul is not in stasis. You're moving in one direction or the other. Always.

 

[GreatestIam]

You have chose a serpent for your avatar. Are you a Satanist?

JK Rowling. Fiction.

OTOH Satan is not fiction

Hey Christian, do you always lie so easily?

Regards
DL

 

[fncceo]

Is it God’s right to kill us whenever he sees fit?

G-d doesn't kill us, we kill us.

Not in scriptures. That is all the satanic God.

Regards
DL

That depends on whose scriptures you're reading.

I know of none that show God in a better light than Satan in terms of the body count. What scripture do you know that show the opposite, or were you just trying to deflect or justify God's murders of children and babies?

Regards
DL

Don't frak with his favourites...

 

[GreatestIam]

The fundamental you ignore is that killing when you can just as easily cure is evil.

You also fail to see that to punish, torture and kill a child or baby because you are angry with the parents is also evil.

Your prick of a God does both.

Are you a mother and as a life giver, do you also give yourself the right to kill your creation?

Regards
DL

1. This ain't Heaven yet, and it's not eternity. God is under no obligation to cure in this life. Maybe that doesn't match your expectations, but then again, God really does not answer to you. Or me.

2. So you are pro-life then? You hate abortion too? A mother, once she has created a child for ANY reason--even if she has been violently raped--should never, ever "punish, torture, or kill a child or baby" because that would be wrong, correct?

3. I did not create my children. I could not do so even if I tried. I fell pregnant, and went about my life in the usual way while my body, coded by God the Creator, did its work. I didn't do it.

Last, if you continue to be nasty and combative, I'll put you on ignore. I almost did this time. It's not that your name-calling offends me or is anything new. It's that I'm not obligated to wade through angry trash to get to any points you're trying to make.

Why are you so angry, anyway?

Because immoral people like you give a satanic God a pass and cannot even admit creating life within you.

Your mental and moral dysfunction is duly noted.

I just put a link in the post above. Have a look and tell us why your good God would intentionally create those abominations that you would allow to live.

Regards
DL

You have chose a serpent for your avatar. Are you a Satanist?

You can't argue for your God or your immoral position so you pick on an avatar. What a pathetic mind.

But to answer your idiocy.

No. I leave it to those like you to follow a satanic God.

Have you noted though how few Satan kills in scriptures as compared to the genocidal prick you follow?

Which entity is more moral. Try to answer after you look up that word. You do not seem to know what it means.

Regards
DL

Okay. Bye.

Tuck tail when you run that fast. Like your God and religion, you cannot argue your points and have to run away. Not surprising as these days, it cannot rely on Inquisitions to grow itself and that is why it is being rejected by drove of the more intelligent and moral people.

Regards
DL

 

[onefour1]

This life is a probationary mortal state. It is not the eternal state that the soul of mankind will dwell in forever. It is a temporary state that is made and controlled by God to give us learning and understanding and to test us to see if we are willing to choose good over evil. God is the overseer of this temporal state and it is his right and responsibility to decide when we are to come into this realm and when we are to leave it. This life is not the end all of our existence. We are eternal beings who have an eternal spirit and will be resurrected with an immortal body. Life goes on. This temporal state on earth is an infinitesimally small part of our eternal existence. It is not the reality of eternity that we all will live in forever immortally. It is a learning ground to learn how to have a body and to control it. It is a learning ground to go through difficult experiences that are not part of immortal life. God is the overseer of this mortal existence and has the right to control the outcome of this temporary state. This life is an opportunity to learn to walk by faith and to learn to overcome problems. It is an opportunity to be a good being of our own volition. It is a test to see if we will be faithful in being good beings when God is not before our very eyes. It is chance for us to exercise our free will to choose good over evil. It is only a temporary state of being in which God does have the power and authority to give life and take it. You cannot kill and immortal and eternal being. The commandment, "Thou shalt not kill" was given for this life only to we mortals. God is the overseer of this life and is not subject to this mortal commandment that he gave to mankind but He is the one who in over this life and controls all existence within it. He is God and this temporal existence is just that, TEMPORAL. His giving and taking of life in this world is not subject to eternal law. It is his right and duty to oversee this temporal progressive mortal state of mankind that was never designed for eternal existence but only to be temporary under his direction and wisdom.

Sounds like a load of crap but I will give you a chance to maker your case.

If God is controlling things to test us, tell us what he is testing with the abominations he created in this link and tell us your thought on both victims, mother and child.



Regards
DL

Before we were ever born into this life we lived as the spirit children of God.

Hebrews 12:9
9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?

Acts 17:28-29
28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device.

This is why God spoke to Jeremiah saying,

Jeremiah 1:5
5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

Our immortal spirits will eventually take part in the resurrection and we will all receive a perfect body of flesh and bones that will be as immortal as the spirit it will house. We will all then live in immortality with a perfect body that has no defects. You see, the painter is not finished with his work. The creator has not completed his plan of creation. It is only in the process so that we can learn from adversity. As I stated before this life is for us to gain knowledge and wisdom through hardship, suffering, pain, anguish, joy, love etc. etc. Most all the hardships we face in this life are temporary and will not go on forever. Many of the things we experience in this life are for our profit and learning.

Doctrine and Covenants 122:5-9
5 If thou art called to pass through tribulation; if thou art in perils among false brethren; if thou art in perils among robbers; if thou art in perils by land or by sea;
6 If thou art accused with all manner of false accusations; if thine enemies fall upon thee; if they tear thee from the society of thy father and mother and brethren and sisters; and if with a drawn sword thine enemies tear thee from the bosom of thy wife, and of thine offspring, and thine elder son, although but six years of age, shall cling to thy garments, and shall say, My father, my father, why can’t you stay with us? O, my father, what are the men going to do with you? and if then he shall be thrust from thee by the sword, and thou be dragged to prison, and thine enemies prowl around thee like wolves for the blood of the lamb;
7 And if thou shouldst be cast into the pit, or into the hands of murderers, and the sentence of death passed upon thee; if thou be cast into the deep; if the billowing surge conspire against thee; if fierce winds become thine enemy; if the heavens gather blackness, and all the elements combine to hedge up the way; and above all, if the very jaws of hell shall gape open the mouth wide after thee, know thou, my son, that all these things shall give thee experience, and shall be for thy good.
8 The Son of Man hath descended below them all. Art thou greater than he?
9 Therefore, hold on thy way, and the priesthood shall remain with thee; for their bounds are set, they cannot pass. Thy days are known, and thy years shall not be numbered less; therefore, fear not what man can do, for God shall be with you forever and ever.

It may be the lot of some to experience in this mortal realm the troubles and pains of deformity. But if it is born well, the Lord God will bless them for all eternity. And when they come forth in the resurrection, they will be made whole.

 

[there4eyeM]

Considering the universe, the immensity and complexity of what science has revealed to us, is it possible to believe in such a little concept of 'God'? 'God' has to be far beyond our capacities of understanding in order to truly be 'God'. These indications and pointers, these texts from the past, can only be feeble attempts to explain to a less informed generation than we.
'God' is practically an unusable term for us, as any name limits, and 'God' would have to be illimitable. Besides, the noun has been so misused for so long that it conjures too many charged images, too many clouded thoughts.
Better to leave 'God' alone and direct the inner self toward openness about existence. Contemplate, meditate on the personal place in being and allow whatever is there to fulfill that openness. This is freedom, this is free will, if they exist at all.

 

[Gracie]

Is it God’s right to kill us whenever he sees fit?

“And taking life whenever He sees fit, however He sees fit, which is absolutely His right.”

http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/do-you-think-it-odd-that-your-god-never-acknowledges-you-is-that-rude.698104/page-17#post-20430365

SweetSue92 gave me this reply but I have hear many Christians echo this thinking which basically says that the law maker does not need to follow the law he dictates for the rest of us. I paraphrase, do as I say and not as I do.

This was in response to our chatting about the many times, as in the genocide of Noah’s day, the murder of Egypt’s first born and the 6 day torture of King David’s baby, all because God was angry with the parents. God kills us when he could just as easily cure us and picks the innocent to kill instead of the guilty.

Is do as I say and not as I do moral or immoral thinking?

Regards
DL

Yes. The Creator alone owns the Creation. He also controls the eternal destiny of all of us, which we cannot do for any we destroy. And ALL we can do is destroy. We have no ability to create. We have no ability to determine eternal destiny of those we destroy.

In short, He is God and we are not.

I'm sorry you seem not to understand these fundamentals and seem to be more interested in playing gotcha games. I really mean that--I am sorry about that.

The fundamental you ignore is that killing when you can just as easily cure is evil.

You also fail to see that to punish, torture and kill a child or baby because you are angry with the parents is also evil.

Your prick of a God does both.

Are you a mother and as a life giver, do you also give yourself the right to kill your creation?

Regards
DL

1. This ain't Heaven yet, and it's not eternity. God is under no obligation to cure in this life. Maybe that doesn't match your expectations, but then again, God really does not answer to you. Or me.

2. So you are pro-life then? You hate abortion too? A mother, once she has created a child for ANY reason--even if she has been violently raped--should never, ever "punish, torture, or kill a child or baby" because that would be wrong, correct?

3. I did not create my children. I could not do so even if I tried. I fell pregnant, and went about my life in the usual way while my body, coded by God the Creator, did its work. I didn't do it.

Last, if you continue to be nasty and combative, I'll put you on ignore. I almost did this time. It's not that your name-calling offends me or is anything new. It's that I'm not obligated to wade through angry trash to get to any points you're trying to make.

Why are you so angry, anyway?

Because immoral people like you give a satanic God a pass and cannot even admit creating life within you.

Your mental and moral dysfunction is duly noted.

I just put a link in the post above. Have a look and tell us why your good God would intentionally create those abominations that you would allow to live.

Regards
DL

Ok. Its official. You are a fucktard.

 

[GreatestIam]

This life is a probationary mortal state. It is not the eternal state that the soul of mankind will dwell in forever. It is a temporary state that is made and controlled by God to give us learning and understanding and to test us to see if we are willing to choose good over evil. God is the overseer of this temporal state and it is his right and responsibility to decide when we are to come into this realm and when we are to leave it. This life is not the end all of our existence. We are eternal beings who have an eternal spirit and will be resurrected with an immortal body. Life goes on. This temporal state on earth is an infinitesimally small part of our eternal existence. It is not the reality of eternity that we all will live in forever immortally. It is a learning ground to learn how to have a body and to control it. It is a learning ground to go through difficult experiences that are not part of immortal life. God is the overseer of this mortal existence and has the right to control the outcome of this temporary state. This life is an opportunity to learn to walk by faith and to learn to overcome problems. It is an opportunity to be a good being of our own volition. It is a test to see if we will be faithful in being good beings when God is not before our very eyes. It is chance for us to exercise our free will to choose good over evil. It is only a temporary state of being in which God does have the power and authority to give life and take it. You cannot kill and immortal and eternal being. The commandment, "Thou shalt not kill" was given for this life only to we mortals. God is the overseer of this life and is not subject to this mortal commandment that he gave to mankind but He is the one who in over this life and controls all existence within it. He is God and this temporal existence is just that, TEMPORAL. His giving and taking of life in this world is not subject to eternal law. It is his right and duty to oversee this temporal progressive mortal state of mankind that was never designed for eternal existence but only to be temporary under his direction and wisdom.

Sounds like a load of crap but I will give you a chance to maker your case.

If God is controlling things to test us, tell us what he is testing with the abominations he created in this link and tell us your thought on both victims, mother and child.



Regards
DL

Before we were ever born into this life we lived as the spirit children of God.

Hebrews 12:9
9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?

Acts 17:28-29
28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.
29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device.

This is why God spoke to Jeremiah saying,

Jeremiah 1:5
5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

Our immortal spirits will eventually take part in the resurrection and we will all receive a perfect body of flesh and bones that will be as immortal as the spirit it will house. We will all then live in immortality with a perfect body that has no defects. You see, the painter is not finished with his work. The creator has not completed his plan of creation. It is only in the process so that we can learn from adversity. As I stated before this life is for us to gain knowledge and wisdom through hardship, suffering, pain, anguish, joy, love etc. etc. Most all the hardships we face in this life are temporary and will not go on forever. Many of the things we experience in this life are for our profit and learning.

Doctrine and Covenants 122:5-9
5 If thou art called to pass through tribulation; if thou art in perils among false brethren; if thou art in perils among robbers; if thou art in perils by land or by sea;
6 If thou art accused with all manner of false accusations; if thine enemies fall upon thee; if they tear thee from the society of thy father and mother and brethren and sisters; and if with a drawn sword thine enemies tear thee from the bosom of thy wife, and of thine offspring, and thine elder son, although but six years of age, shall cling to thy garments, and shall say, My father, my father, why can’t you stay with us? O, my father, what are the men going to do with you? and if then he shall be thrust from thee by the sword, and thou be dragged to prison, and thine enemies prowl around thee like wolves for the blood of the lamb;
7 And if thou shouldst be cast into the pit, or into the hands of murderers, and the sentence of death passed upon thee; if thou be cast into the deep; if the billowing surge conspire against thee; if fierce winds become thine enemy; if the heavens gather blackness, and all the elements combine to hedge up the way; and above all, if the very jaws of hell shall gape open the mouth wide after thee, know thou, my son, that all these things shall give thee experience, and shall be for thy good.
8 The Son of Man hath descended below them all. Art thou greater than he?
9 Therefore, hold on thy way, and the priesthood shall remain with thee; for their bounds are set, they cannot pass. Thy days are known, and thy years shall not be numbered less; therefore, fear not what man can do, for God shall be with you forever and ever.

It may be the lot of some to experience in this mortal realm the troubles and pains of deformity. But if it is born well, the Lord God will bless them for all eternity. And when they come forth in the resurrection, they will be made whole.

If all you are going to do is lie about a supernatural realm that you cannot possibly know, then go away and take your fantasy that allows you to adore a genocidal son murdering prick of a God with you.

Regards
DL