Is Israel the Same as South Africa?

[georgephillip]

georgephillip, et al,

I keep asking!

Then Hamas must be destroyed, like the mad dog that it is.

Racists should be destroyed on both sides of the Green Line starting with those who control the monopoly of violence:

"According to the 2004 U.S. State Department Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for Israel and the Occupied Territories, the Israeli government had done 'little to reduce institutional, legal, and societal discrimination against the country's Arab citizens.'[8]

"The 2005 US Department of State report on Israel wrote: '[T]he government generally respected the human rights of its citizens; however, there were problems in some areas, including... institutional, legal, and societal discrimination against the country’s Arab citizens.'[9]

"The 2010 U.S. State Department Country Report stated that Israeli law prohibits discrimination on the basis of race, and that government effectively enforced these prohibitions.[10] Former Likud MK and Minister of Defense Moshe Arens has criticized the treatment of minorities in Israel, saying that they did not bear the full obligation of Israeli citizenship, nor were they extended the full privileges of citizenship.[11]"

Racism in Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

650, 000 Jews inflicted an ethnocracy on 1.2 million non-Jews in 1948 and three generations later their racist state is swirling the same drain as White South Africa a generation ago.

Can you hear the FLUSH?

(QUESTION)

What are the two (or more) races involved in the Racism?

Most Respectfully,
R

Why are you perplexed about racial tensions in the holy land?

"In the spring, several Jewish teenage girls asked a women standing at a bus stop in Jerusalem whether she was an Arab. The woman, wearing a headscarf, replied that she was. One of the girls pulled the hijab from the woman's head and spat in her face. The others kicked and beat the woman. A police officer stood nearby and watched. Hana Amtir, 38, three months' pregnant, locked herself into her house for three days before filing a complaint with the police.

"In a beach bar in Tel Aviv, an Arab waiter was clearing away bottles of mayonnaise and ketchup, but the men sitting at one of the tables weren't finished yet. 'Damn Arab,' they cursed, and then proceeded to beat the man, who was later hospitalized. None of the other guests came to his aid."

Racist Attacks Against Arabs Increase in Israel - SPIEGEL ONLINE

Obviously many of those you support in Israel are very clear on the difference between Jews and Damn Arabs.

 

[georgephillip]

Then Hamas must be destroyed, like the mad dog that it is.

Racists should be destroyed on both sides of the Green Line starting with those who control the monopoly of violence: ...

Now, all you need is the muscle to destroy the Israelis.

The Israelis, on the other hand, already have the muscle to destroy Hamas.

They have simply refrained from using that muscle to date for international political reasons.

I wouldn't count on that restraint lasting much longer if I were you.



That's nice.

That and $3.50 will get you a cup of Starbucks.

Or you can always use the reports when you run out of toilet paper.

"...650,000 Jews inflicted an ethnocracy on 1.2 million non-Jews in 1948 and three generations later their racist state is swirling the same drain as White South Africa a generation ago..."

Well, that's one interpretation, certainly.

You can always hope, I suppose.

But I wouldn't bet your paycheck on it.

"...Can you hear the FLUSH?"

No, but I can hear the laughter at your unrealistic pie-in-the-sky rant...

Funny, all I'm hearing are the amateur-night squeals of a self-absorbed apologist for kosher Kooks:

"The earlier influence of fundamentalist Rabbi Abraham Kook (1865-1935), or Kuk, was significant. He preached Jewish supremacy and said: 'The difference between a Jewish soul and souls of non-Jews -- all of them in all different levels -- is greater and deeper than the difference between a human soul and the souls of cattle.'

"His teachings helped create the settler movement, and his son, Rabbi Tzvi Yehuda Kook, founded the extremist Gush Emunim (GE) under the slogan: 'The Land of Israel, for the people of Israel, according to the Torah of Israel.'"

Al-Ahram Weekly | Focus | Religious fundamentalism in Israel

Do you Gush over Zionist rants?

 

[Hossfly]

georgephillip, et al,

I keep asking!

Racists should be destroyed on both sides of the Green Line starting with those who control the monopoly of violence:

"According to the 2004 U.S. State Department Country Reports on Human Rights Practices for Israel and the Occupied Territories, the Israeli government had done 'little to reduce institutional, legal, and societal discrimination against the country's Arab citizens.'[8]

"The 2005 US Department of State report on Israel wrote: '[T]he government generally respected the human rights of its citizens; however, there were problems in some areas, including... institutional, legal, and societal discrimination against the country’s Arab citizens.'[9]

"The 2010 U.S. State Department Country Report stated that Israeli law prohibits discrimination on the basis of race, and that government effectively enforced these prohibitions.[10] Former Likud MK and Minister of Defense Moshe Arens has criticized the treatment of minorities in Israel, saying that they did not bear the full obligation of Israeli citizenship, nor were they extended the full privileges of citizenship.[11]"

Racism in Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

650, 000 Jews inflicted an ethnocracy on 1.2 million non-Jews in 1948 and three generations later their racist state is swirling the same drain as White South Africa a generation ago.

Can you hear the FLUSH?

(QUESTION)

What are the two (or more) races involved in the Racism?

Most Respectfully,
R

Why are you perplexed about racial tensions in the holy land?

"In the spring, several Jewish teenage girls asked a women standing at a bus stop in Jerusalem whether she was an Arab. The woman, wearing a headscarf, replied that she was. One of the girls pulled the hijab from the woman's head and spat in her face. The others kicked and beat the woman. A police officer stood nearby and watched. Hana Amtir, 38, three months' pregnant, locked herself into her house for three days before filing a complaint with the police.

"In a beach bar in Tel Aviv, an Arab waiter was clearing away bottles of mayonnaise and ketchup, but the men sitting at one of the tables weren't finished yet. 'Damn Arab,' they cursed, and then proceeded to beat the man, who was later hospitalized. None of the other guests came to his aid."

Racist Attacks Against Arabs Increase in Israel - SPIEGEL ONLINE

Obviously many of those you support in Israel are very clear on the difference between Jews and Damn Arabs.

I have a better idea, Georgie Boy. Why don't you go into an Arab country in northern Africa where the people have a much, much lighter skin, and see how you would fare when it comes to racism. There was once something written by a Black African who took a vacation in northern Africa, and he was shocked at how the people treated him and other Blacks. Maybe Georgie Boy can find some "damn" Libyan and ask him why the Black workers were treated so badly during the Arab Spring there that the unfortunate Blacks were imprisoned or killed. By the way, Georgie Boy, can you find us some Der Spiegel articles about how the Muslims are trying to take over Germany?
African migrant in Libya

 

[RoccoR]

georgephillip, et al,

Hummm! You ask the question and you make the claim.

georgephillip, et al,

I keep asking!

Racists should be destroyed on both sides of the Green Line starting with those who control the monopoly of violence:

------ ------ ------ ------- ------ ------ ------ ------- ------ ------ ------ -------​

650, 000 Jews inflicted an ethnocracy on 1.2 million non-Jews in 1948 and three generations later their racist state is swirling the same drain as White South Africa a generation ago.

Can you hear the FLUSH?

(QUESTION)

What are the two (or more) races involved in the Racism?

Why are you perplexed about racial tensions in the holy land?

------ ------ ------ ------- ------ ------ ------ ------- ------ ------ ------ -------​

Obviously many of those you support in Israel are very clear on the difference between Jews and Damn Arabs.

(OBSERVATIONS)

• You clearly stated an argument based on Racism; a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.

• Ethnocracy is where a government is controlled by a particular race or national group. Here you implied Israel is a "racist state."

(COMMENT)

You unceremoniously highlight the "difference between Jews and Damn Arabs." This is odd in that they are both "Semitic" cultures. So what difference are you speaking of in this context. Clearly, you go on to say, that it is on the basis of "racism" and "ethnocracy." And that clearly goes back to "race." Practicing Jews and Arab are both Semitic.

The rift and separation between the citizens of Israel and the Arab Palestinian is based on the establish pattern and history of criminal and adverse behaviors exhibited over an extended period of time. And it is this historical evidence that makes the "right of return" for most Arab-Palestinian (who would otherwise qualify) so difficult.

11. Resolves that the refugees wishing to return to their homes and live at peace with their neighbours should be permitted to do so at the earliest practicable date, and that compensation should be paid for the property of those choosing not to return and for loss of or damage to property which, under principles of international law or in equity, should be made good by the Governments or authorities responsible;

SOURCE: A/RES/194 (III) 11 December 1948

Already it is in conflict with the HAMAS Covenant and the PNA Charter.

In GA Resolution 194(III) the first key qualification is that the Arab-Palestinian "live at peace with their neighbors." Of course, this falls in line with the general Rule of Law (RoL) that is expressed in Resolution 2625 (The Principles).

(b) The principle that States shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security and justice are not endangered,
..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....

Every State has the duty to refrain from the threat or use of force to violate the existing international boundaries of another State or as a means of solving international
disputes, including territorial disputes and problems concerning frontiers of States.

SOURCE: http://www.unrol.org/files/3dda1f104.pdf
OR
United Nations Official Document)

But this first key qualification and the RoL come in conflict with Palestinian enacted beliefs and policy.

• Article 13 of Covenant: There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad.
• Article 14 of Covenant: Since this is the case, liberation of Palestine is then an individual duty for very Moslem wherever he may be.
• Article 15 of Covenant: The day that enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem. In face of the Jews' usurpation of Palestine, it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised.
• Article 8 of Charter: On this basis the Palestinian masses, regardless of whether they are residing in the national homeland or in Diaspora (mahajir) constitute- both their organizations and the individuals- one national front working for the retrieval of Palestine and its liberation through armed struggle.
• Article 9 of Charter: Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine.
• Article 10 of Charter: Commando (Feday'ee) action constitutes the nucleus of the Palestinian popular liberation war. This requires its escalation, comprehensiveness, and the mobilization of all the Palestinian popular and educational efforts and their organization and involvement in the armed Palestinian revolution.

By their own words, they deny themselves the "right of return" if we use your interpretation of UN mandate.

This position was reaffirmed by HAMAS within the last few months:

"The Palestinian resistance requires the Palestinian people to remain united under the resistance banner, and it [the resistance] has the right to smite with an iron fist any hand that seeks to rip apart the people's unity and [cause it to] abandon its rights. It must also pursue the agents of the occupation wherever they may be, even outside Palestine, because leaving them in peace damages the Palestinian cause and places the Palestinian people, its leadership, and its resistance in grave danger.

SOURCE: SENIOR HAMAS OFFICIAL: THE RESISTANCE IS ENTITLED TO ATTACK ISRAEL'S EMBASSIES, INTERESTS, AND OFFICIALS WORLDWIDE -- AND THE INTERESTS OF ITS ALLIES, HEADED BY THE U.S.

The separation is NOT based on race, as you imply, but based on the fact that the Arab-Palestinian has declared a "Jihad" and "armed struggle" as the solution.

Not only is it disingenuous to suggest that there is a racial component as the catalyst for the separation, but is also cast doubt on the intent of the racism claim (to be purposely inflammatory). One of the purposes of the separation is to maintain a distance between the belligerents; protecting the citizenry not party to the dispute or conflict.

The denial of the "right of return" (the separation) is wholly self-inflicted.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[georgephillip]

georgephillip, et al,

Hummm! You ask the question and you make the claim.

georgephillip, et al,

I keep asking!


(QUESTION)

What are the two (or more) races involved in the Racism?

Why are you perplexed about racial tensions in the holy land?

------ ------ ------ ------- ------ ------ ------ ------- ------ ------ ------ -------​

Obviously many of those you support in Israel are very clear on the difference between Jews and Damn Arabs.

(OBSERVATIONS)

• You clearly stated an argument based on Racism; a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.

• Ethnocracy is where a government is controlled by a particular race or national group. Here you implied Israel is a "racist state."

(COMMENT)

You unceremoniously highlight the "difference between Jews and Damn Arabs." This is odd in that they are both "Semitic" cultures. So what difference are you speaking of in this context. Clearly, you go on to say, that it is on the basis of "racism" and "ethnocracy." And that clearly goes back to "race." Practicing Jews and Arab are both Semitic.

The rift and separation between the citizens of Israel and the Arab Palestinian is based on the establish pattern and history of criminal and adverse behaviors exhibited over an extended period of time. And it is this historical evidence that makes the "right of return" for most Arab-Palestinian (who would otherwise qualify) so difficult.



Already it is in conflict with the HAMAS Covenant and the PNA Charter.

In GA Resolution 194(III) the first key qualification is that the Arab-Palestinian "live at peace with their neighbors." Of course, this falls in line with the general Rule of Law (RoL) that is expressed in Resolution 2625 (The Principles).

(b) The principle that States shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security and justice are not endangered,
..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... ..... .....

Every State has the duty to refrain from the threat or use of force to violate the existing international boundaries of another State or as a means of solving international
disputes, including territorial disputes and problems concerning frontiers of States.

SOURCE: http://www.unrol.org/files/3dda1f104.pdf
OR
United Nations Official Document)

But this first key qualification and the RoL come in conflict with Palestinian enacted beliefs and policy.

• Article 13 of Covenant: There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad.
• Article 14 of Covenant: Since this is the case, liberation of Palestine is then an individual duty for very Moslem wherever he may be.
• Article 15 of Covenant: The day that enemies usurp part of Moslem land, Jihad becomes the individual duty of every Moslem. In face of the Jews' usurpation of Palestine, it is compulsory that the banner of Jihad be raised.
• Article 8 of Charter: On this basis the Palestinian masses, regardless of whether they are residing in the national homeland or in Diaspora (mahajir) constitute- both their organizations and the individuals- one national front working for the retrieval of Palestine and its liberation through armed struggle.
• Article 9 of Charter: Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine.
• Article 10 of Charter: Commando (Feday'ee) action constitutes the nucleus of the Palestinian popular liberation war. This requires its escalation, comprehensiveness, and the mobilization of all the Palestinian popular and educational efforts and their organization and involvement in the armed Palestinian revolution.

By their own words, they deny themselves the "right of return" if we use your interpretation of UN mandate.

This position was reaffirmed by HAMAS within the last few months:

"The Palestinian resistance requires the Palestinian people to remain united under the resistance banner, and it [the resistance] has the right to smite with an iron fist any hand that seeks to rip apart the people's unity and [cause it to] abandon its rights. It must also pursue the agents of the occupation wherever they may be, even outside Palestine, because leaving them in peace damages the Palestinian cause and places the Palestinian people, its leadership, and its resistance in grave danger.

SOURCE: SENIOR HAMAS OFFICIAL: THE RESISTANCE IS ENTITLED TO ATTACK ISRAEL'S EMBASSIES, INTERESTS, AND OFFICIALS WORLDWIDE -- AND THE INTERESTS OF ITS ALLIES, HEADED BY THE U.S.

The separation is NOT based on race, as you imply, but based on the fact that the Arab-Palestinian has declared a "Jihad" and "armed struggle" as the solution.

Not only is it disingenuous to suggest that there is a racial component as the catalyst for the separation, but is also cast doubt on the intent of the racism claim (to be purposely inflammatory). One of the purposes of the separation is to maintain a distance between the belligerents; protecting the citizenry not party to the dispute or conflict.

The denial of the "right of return" (the separation) is wholly self-inflicted.

Most Respectfully,
R

The denial of the "right of return" is wholly self inflicted only for those who start keeping score after 650,000 Jews imposed an ethnocracy on 1.2 million Arabs in 1948 Mandate Palestine. For half-a-century before the ethnic cleansing of 700,000 non-Jews from the Land of Israel, Zionists made no secret of the role race played in their efforts to colonize Palestine. While supporters of Zionism's racist core are always quick to vilify Islamic extremism, they seem reluctant to criticize comparable Jewish extremism.

Do you find the following an example of racism or not?

"The difference between a Jewish soul and souls of non-Jews -- all of them in all different levels -- is greater and deeper than the difference between a human soul and the souls of cattle' -- Rabbi Abraham Kook"

Al-Ahram Weekly | Focus | Religious fundamentalism in Israel

 

[georgephillip]

georgephillip, et al,

I keep asking!


(QUESTION)

What are the two (or more) races involved in the Racism?

Most Respectfully,
R

Why are you perplexed about racial tensions in the holy land?

"In the spring, several Jewish teenage girls asked a women standing at a bus stop in Jerusalem whether she was an Arab. The woman, wearing a headscarf, replied that she was. One of the girls pulled the hijab from the woman's head and spat in her face. The others kicked and beat the woman. A police officer stood nearby and watched. Hana Amtir, 38, three months' pregnant, locked herself into her house for three days before filing a complaint with the police.

"In a beach bar in Tel Aviv, an Arab waiter was clearing away bottles of mayonnaise and ketchup, but the men sitting at one of the tables weren't finished yet. 'Damn Arab,' they cursed, and then proceeded to beat the man, who was later hospitalized. None of the other guests came to his aid."

Racist Attacks Against Arabs Increase in Israel - SPIEGEL ONLINE

Obviously many of those you support in Israel are very clear on the difference between Jews and Damn Arabs.

I have a better idea, Georgie Boy. Why don't you go into an Arab country in northern Africa where the people have a much, much lighter skin, and see how you would fare when it comes to racism. There was once something written by a Black African who took a vacation in northern Africa, and he was shocked at how the people treated him and other Blacks. Maybe Georgie Boy can find some "damn" Libyan and ask him why the Black workers were treated so badly during the Arab Spring there that the unfortunate Blacks were imprisoned or killed. By the way, Georgie Boy, can you find us some Der Spiegel articles about how the Muslims are trying to take over Germany?
African migrant in Libya

"The difference between a Jewish soul and souls of non-Jews -- all of them in all different levels -- is greater and deeper than the difference between a human soul and the souls of cattle' -- Rabbi Abraham Kook"

Agree or disagree?

Al-Ahram Weekly | Focus | Religious fundamentalism in Israel

 

[Sweet_Caroline]

Why are you perplexed about racial tensions in the holy land?

"In the spring, several Jewish teenage girls asked a women standing at a bus stop in Jerusalem whether she was an Arab. The woman, wearing a headscarf, replied that she was. One of the girls pulled the hijab from the woman's head and spat in her face. The others kicked and beat the woman. A police officer stood nearby and watched. Hana Amtir, 38, three months' pregnant, locked herself into her house for three days before filing a complaint with the police.

"In a beach bar in Tel Aviv, an Arab waiter was clearing away bottles of mayonnaise and ketchup, but the men sitting at one of the tables weren't finished yet. 'Damn Arab,' they cursed, and then proceeded to beat the man, who was later hospitalized. None of the other guests came to his aid."

Racist Attacks Against Arabs Increase in Israel - SPIEGEL ONLINE

Obviously many of those you support in Israel are very clear on the difference between Jews and Damn Arabs.

I have a better idea, Georgie Boy. Why don't you go into an Arab country in northern Africa where the people have a much, much lighter skin, and see how you would fare when it comes to racism. There was once something written by a Black African who took a vacation in northern Africa, and he was shocked at how the people treated him and other Blacks. Maybe Georgie Boy can find some "damn" Libyan and ask him why the Black workers were treated so badly during the Arab Spring there that the unfortunate Blacks were imprisoned or killed. By the way, Georgie Boy, can you find us some Der Spiegel articles about how the Muslims are trying to take over Germany?
African migrant in Libya

"The difference between a Jewish soul and souls of non-Jews -- all of them in all different levels -- is greater and deeper than the difference between a human soul and the souls of cattle' -- Rabbi Abraham Kook"

Agree or disagree?

Al-Ahram Weekly | Focus | Religious fundamentalism in Israel

He died in 1935. What are you bringing up quotes for from someone who died almost 100 years ago. You want to see some quotes banded about today from Islamists about non-Muslims? Just let me know.

 

[Bumberclyde]

georgephillip, et al,

I keep asking!


(QUESTION)

What are the two (or more) races involved in the Racism?

Most Respectfully,
R

Why are you perplexed about racial tensions in the holy land?

"In the spring, several Jewish teenage girls asked a women standing at a bus stop in Jerusalem whether she was an Arab. The woman, wearing a headscarf, replied that she was. One of the girls pulled the hijab from the woman's head and spat in her face. The others kicked and beat the woman. A police officer stood nearby and watched. Hana Amtir, 38, three months' pregnant, locked herself into her house for three days before filing a complaint with the police.

"In a beach bar in Tel Aviv, an Arab waiter was clearing away bottles of mayonnaise and ketchup, but the men sitting at one of the tables weren't finished yet. 'Damn Arab,' they cursed, and then proceeded to beat the man, who was later hospitalized. None of the other guests came to his aid."

Racist Attacks Against Arabs Increase in Israel - SPIEGEL ONLINE

Obviously many of those you support in Israel are very clear on the difference between Jews and Damn Arabs.

I have a better idea, Georgie Boy. Why don't you go into an Arab country in northern Africa where the people have a much, much lighter skin, and see how you would fare when it comes to racism. There was once something written by a Black African who took a vacation in northern Africa, and he was shocked at how the people treated him and other Blacks. Maybe Georgie Boy can find some "damn" Libyan and ask him why the Black workers were treated so badly during the Arab Spring there that the unfortunate Blacks were imprisoned or killed. By the way, Georgie Boy, can you find us some Der Spiegel articles about how the Muslims are trying to take over Germany?
African migrant in Libya

That still doesn't address what he was talking about, which was racism by Israelis towards arabs, but then again, you had no response to that so you try to deflect onto something irrelevant... as usual.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Rocco, your posts are back assward.

You always ignore the fact that the Palestinians were at home minding their own business when foreigners came down from Europe and ran them off their land.

 

[RoccoR]

georgephillip, et al,

This is where logic and critical thinking comes into play.

Do you find the following an example of racism or not?

"The difference between a Jewish soul and souls of non-Jews -- all of them in all different levels -- is greater and deeper than the difference between a human soul and the souls of cattle' -- Rabbi Abraham Kook"

(ANSWER)

NO! This is NOT racist.

(COMMENT)

This is a rabbinical distinction (relating to the rabbis interpretation and beliefs, language, teachings, or writings) in the same way that ecclesiastical laws and teachings (relating to established religious institutions) have been in existence for century upon century.

The distinction does not even relate to the tangible world; but to an immaterial asset that is separate from the physical body. Racism is definitely related to the physical body.

In the context that Rabbi Kook uses this phrasing (turn of the 20th Century), Jewish supremacy is that of the spiritual realm - the intangible. That is completely different from --- say --- Islamic supremacy: "The Islamic Resistance Movement is a distinguished Palestinian movement, whose allegiance is to Allah, and whose way of life is Islam. It strives to raise the banner of Allah over every inch of Palestine." (Article 6 - HAMAS Covenant.) This is very tangible and political in nature --- over land and holdings. Yet, it is still not racial at its core. It is religious fundamentalism; one over the tangible and one over the intangible. One dangerous and one not so dangerous.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[georgephillip]

I have a better idea, Georgie Boy. Why don't you go into an Arab country in northern Africa where the people have a much, much lighter skin, and see how you would fare when it comes to racism. There was once something written by a Black African who took a vacation in northern Africa, and he was shocked at how the people treated him and other Blacks. Maybe Georgie Boy can find some "damn" Libyan and ask him why the Black workers were treated so badly during the Arab Spring there that the unfortunate Blacks were imprisoned or killed. By the way, Georgie Boy, can you find us some Der Spiegel articles about how the Muslims are trying to take over Germany?
African migrant in Libya

"The difference between a Jewish soul and souls of non-Jews -- all of them in all different levels -- is greater and deeper than the difference between a human soul and the souls of cattle' -- Rabbi Abraham Kook"

Agree or disagree?

Al-Ahram Weekly | Focus | Religious fundamentalism in Israel

He died in 1935. What are you bringing up quotes for from someone who died almost 100 years ago. You want to see some quotes banded about today from Islamists about non-Muslims? Just let me know.

The settler movement lives on in Palestine:

"The earlier influence of fundamentalist Rabbi Abraham Kook (1865-1935), or Kuk, was significant. He preached Jewish supremacy and said: 'The difference between a Jewish soul and souls of non-Jews -- all of them in all different levels -- is greater and deeper than the difference between a human soul and the souls of cattle.'

"His teachings helped create the settler movement, and his son, Rabbi Tzvi Yehuda Kook, founded the extremist Gush Emunim (GE) under the slogan: 'The Land of Israel, for the people of Israel, according to the Torah of Israel.'"

Al-Ahram Weekly | Focus | Religious fundamentalism in Israel

Racist extremists flourish among Muslims and Jews; however, it's the Jews who possess the power of the mushroom cloud, and it's US tax dollars that made that possible. That makes me think racist Jews and their apologists pose a greater threat to humanity than idiotic Imams.

 

[Bloodrock44]

Why are you perplexed about racial tensions in the holy land?

"In the spring, several Jewish teenage girls asked a women standing at a bus stop in Jerusalem whether she was an Arab. The woman, wearing a headscarf, replied that she was. One of the girls pulled the hijab from the woman's head and spat in her face. The others kicked and beat the woman. A police officer stood nearby and watched. Hana Amtir, 38, three months' pregnant, locked herself into her house for three days before filing a complaint with the police.

"In a beach bar in Tel Aviv, an Arab waiter was clearing away bottles of mayonnaise and ketchup, but the men sitting at one of the tables weren't finished yet. 'Damn Arab,' they cursed, and then proceeded to beat the man, who was later hospitalized. None of the other guests came to his aid."

Racist Attacks Against Arabs Increase in Israel - SPIEGEL ONLINE

Obviously many of those you support in Israel are very clear on the difference between Jews and Damn Arabs.

I have a better idea, Georgie Boy. Why don't you go into an Arab country in northern Africa where the people have a much, much lighter skin, and see how you would fare when it comes to racism. There was once something written by a Black African who took a vacation in northern Africa, and he was shocked at how the people treated him and other Blacks. Maybe Georgie Boy can find some "damn" Libyan and ask him why the Black workers were treated so badly during the Arab Spring there that the unfortunate Blacks were imprisoned or killed. By the way, Georgie Boy, can you find us some Der Spiegel articles about how the Muslims are trying to take over Germany?
African migrant in Libya

That still doesn't address what he was talking about, which was racism by Israelis towards arabs, but then again, you had no response to that so you try to deflect onto something irrelevant... as usual.

Hey genius...how many times do we have to tell you that Jews and arabs are of the same race so your term doesn't apply? We are on to your antics. You are using the term to inflame hatred of Jews. Time to stop accusing people of something you are guilty of. Talk about deflection!

 

[georgephillip]

I have a better idea, Georgie Boy. Why don't you go into an Arab country in northern Africa where the people have a much, much lighter skin, and see how you would fare when it comes to racism. There was once something written by a Black African who took a vacation in northern Africa, and he was shocked at how the people treated him and other Blacks. Maybe Georgie Boy can find some "damn" Libyan and ask him why the Black workers were treated so badly during the Arab Spring there that the unfortunate Blacks were imprisoned or killed. By the way, Georgie Boy, can you find us some Der Spiegel articles about how the Muslims are trying to take over Germany?
African migrant in Libya

That still doesn't address what he was talking about, which was racism by Israelis towards arabs, but then again, you had no response to that so you try to deflect onto something irrelevant... as usual.

Hey genius...how many times do we have to tell you that Jews and arabs are of the same race so your term doesn't apply? We are on to your antics. You are using the term to inflame hatred of Jews. Time to stop accusing people of something you are guilty of. Talk about deflection!

Give us your definition of "race."

 

[Bumberclyde]

I have a better idea, Georgie Boy. Why don't you go into an Arab country in northern Africa where the people have a much, much lighter skin, and see how you would fare when it comes to racism. There was once something written by a Black African who took a vacation in northern Africa, and he was shocked at how the people treated him and other Blacks. Maybe Georgie Boy can find some "damn" Libyan and ask him why the Black workers were treated so badly during the Arab Spring there that the unfortunate Blacks were imprisoned or killed. By the way, Georgie Boy, can you find us some Der Spiegel articles about how the Muslims are trying to take over Germany?
African migrant in Libya

That still doesn't address what he was talking about, which was racism by Israelis towards arabs, but then again, you had no response to that so you try to deflect onto something irrelevant... as usual.

Hey genius...how many times do we have to tell you that Jews and arabs are of the same race so your term doesn't apply? We are on to your antics. You are using the term to inflame hatred of Jews. Time to stop accusing people of something you are guilty of. Talk about deflection!

So you claim that because they are from the same race, Jews and arabs don't hate each other? Thanks for the laugh.

 

[Bloodrock44]

That still doesn't address what he was talking about, which was racism by Israelis towards arabs, but then again, you had no response to that so you try to deflect onto something irrelevant... as usual.

Hey genius...how many times do we have to tell you that Jews and arabs are of the same race so your term doesn't apply? We are on to your antics. You are using the term to inflame hatred of Jews. Time to stop accusing people of something you are guilty of. Talk about deflection!

So you claim that because they are from the same race, Jews and arabs don't hate each other? Thanks for the laugh.

Thanks for putting words in my mouth genius. Where did I say Jews and arabs don't hate each other. I said your bogus claims of racism were just that...bogus.

 

[Bumberclyde]

Hey genius...how many times do we have to tell you that Jews and arabs are of the same race so your term doesn't apply? We are on to your antics. You are using the term to inflame hatred of Jews. Time to stop accusing people of something you are guilty of. Talk about deflection!

So you claim that because they are from the same race, Jews and arabs don't hate each other? Thanks for the laugh.

Thanks for putting words in my mouth genius. Where did I say Jews and arabs don't hate each other. I said your bogus claims of racism were just that...bogus.

From Wiki: "Racism and racial discrimination are often used to describe discrimination on an ethnic or cultural basis, independent of whether these differences are described as racial."

Now, you are less ignorant than before. You're welcome.

 

[P F Tinmore]

I have a better idea, Georgie Boy. Why don't you go into an Arab country in northern Africa where the people have a much, much lighter skin, and see how you would fare when it comes to racism. There was once something written by a Black African who took a vacation in northern Africa, and he was shocked at how the people treated him and other Blacks. Maybe Georgie Boy can find some "damn" Libyan and ask him why the Black workers were treated so badly during the Arab Spring there that the unfortunate Blacks were imprisoned or killed. By the way, Georgie Boy, can you find us some Der Spiegel articles about how the Muslims are trying to take over Germany?
African migrant in Libya

That still doesn't address what he was talking about, which was racism by Israelis towards arabs, but then again, you had no response to that so you try to deflect onto something irrelevant... as usual.

Hey genius...how many times do we have to tell you that Jews and arabs are of the same race so your term doesn't apply? We are on to your antics. You are using the term to inflame hatred of Jews. Time to stop accusing people of something you are guilty of. Talk about deflection!

If Jews and Arabs are the same race, then the one state solution should be a piece of cake.

 

[Bloodrock44]

So you claim that because they are from the same race, Jews and arabs don't hate each other? Thanks for the laugh.

Thanks for putting words in my mouth genius. Where did I say Jews and arabs don't hate each other. I said your bogus claims of racism were just that...bogus.

From Wiki: "Racism and racial discrimination are often used to describe discrimination on an ethnic or cultural basis, independent of whether these differences are described as racial."

Now, you are less ignorant than before. You're welcome.

So genius...what you're saying is that you can be racist against you're own race. If brains were dynamite, you wouldn't have enough to blow your nose.

 

[Bumberclyde]

Thanks for putting words in my mouth genius. Where did I say Jews and arabs don't hate each other. I said your bogus claims of racism were just that...bogus.

From Wiki: "Racism and racial discrimination are often used to describe discrimination on an ethnic or cultural basis, independent of whether these differences are described as racial."

Now, you are less ignorant than before. You're welcome.

So genius...what you're saying is that you can be racist against you're own race. If brains were dynamite, you wouldn't have enough to blow your nose.

Lucky for you, being original isn't a pre-requisite here.

Did you know that dark skinned blacks often show racist attitudes towards lighter skinned blacks? I'm guessing not, but now you do.
Btw, does bolding everything mean you consider what you say is more important, or are you just shouting?

 

[Kondor3]

Neither the Arab-Muslims of Palestine nor the Jews of the State of Israel (or elsewhere) are pure-bloods.

Both groups carry the genetic markers of the endless array of conquerors and contestants for the region over the past several thousand years.

And even with all that admixture, the Arab-Muslims of Palestine are probably more narrowly defined, genetically, than their Jewish antagonists.

Mostly because the Jews have been wandering for 2,000 years and have picked-up strong genetic markers from the Two-Rivers region (Bablylonian, Sumerian, etc.) and the Caucuses and Urals and Slavic and Mongol and Eurasian sources, as well as some heavy genetic contributions from Central and Western Europe over the past several centuries.

As I recall from earlier readings about the beginning-times for the Jewish Diaspora, Judaism was, for some considerable period of time, entirely embracing and welcoming of new converts from the lands into which they dispersed, to an extent where some Jewish ancestry-lines actually begin with a post-Diaspora conversion of Gentiles, rather than a maternal link all the way back to ancient Judea-Israel.

This, of course, forms the basis for objections that the Jews of today are not the inheritors of the Jews of Antiquity, and, genetically speaking, there seems to be some truth in that assertion; but, as with most things, it's only a Partial Truth, and, in many persons of the Jewish faith, we can, indeed, find genetic markers linking them to the Judea-Israel of Antiquity, so, that's pretty much a 'wash' - a mixed bag.

But such distinctions grow fuzzy and they lose some measure of importance in light of the mixed racial-ethnic genetic inheritance of the Arab-Muslims of so-called Palestine... part Arab Beduoin blood, part Western European crusader blood, part Hebrew blood, part Byzantine blood, part Roman Legionary blood, part Egyptian blood, part Berber blood, part Iraqi or Persian or Greek blood, part Ottoman Turkish blood, etc... like most folks on the face of the planet... mutts rather than pure-bloods.

So it comes down to Religion and Culture and Philosophy as much as race.

The Jews of modern-day Israel are the Cultural and Spiritual and Philosophical Heirs of Judea-Israel of Anquitity, and, after the slaughter of 6,000,000 of their men, women and children at the hands of Euro-trash during the Holocaust, the Jews decided to stop Wandering and to take back their ancestral and spiritual Homeland.

Nobody was going to hand it to them, and they'd been shoved-around for centuries up to that time, so, they chose to do some shoving themselves, for once, and to stop playing the victim-sheeple.

They succeeded beyond their - or the world's - wildest dreams.