Zone1 Is holiness worthwhile?

[Meriweather]

I read recently that it is only in Christianity where the name of God is used as a profanity. By Christians. It seems we cannot honor even God or keep his name holy. If it isn't even worthwhile to honor the name of God and keep it holy (meaning unblemished) is there anything in this life worthy of honor and keeping holy?

Atheists who swear or sometimes use profanity: Do you ever profane the names of Buddha, Allah, Brahma, Shiva, Hercules? Then why is it acceptable to swear by the name of God or Jesus?

What is worthy of honor and holiness in your life?

 

[theHawk]

It’s not used as “profanity”, it’s used in vein.

 

[Meriweather]

It’s not used as “profanity”, it’s used in vein.

Couldn't help laughing...vain. I doubt it is used in transfusions (veins).

Seriously though, it is also used as profanity. Interesting that society has agreed some words are not to be used. But no protest about using the name of God in vain.

 

[alang1216]

I read recently that it is only in Christianity where the name of God is used as a profanity. By Christians. It seems we cannot honor even God or keep his name holy. If it isn't even worthwhile to honor the name of God and keep it holy (meaning unblemished) is there anything in this life worthy of honor and keeping holy?

Atheists who swear or sometimes use profanity: Do you ever profane the names of Buddha, Allah, Brahma, Shiva, Hercules? Then why is it acceptable to swear by the name of God or Jesus?

What is worthy of honor and holiness in your life?

To me it is just another word to be used to convey my emotion or views. Only people are worthy of honor in my life. Some individuals no so much but almost all groups of people.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Couldn't help laughing...vain. I doubt it is used in transfusions (veins).

Seriously though, it is also used as profanity. Interesting that society has agreed some words are not to be used. But no protest about using the name of God in vain.

That Commandment Is About Oaths

 

[ding]

Only people are worthy of honor in my life.

What about promises? Or truth? Or logic? Are those "things" not worthy of your honor?

honor: high respect; great esteem; adherence to what is right or to a conventional standard of conduct.

 

[Meriweather]

To me it is just another word to be used to convey my emotion or views.

There used to be a word people often used against Blacks, and another word used against Jews to convey emotion and views. As a whole, society deemed these words so disrespectful to people that their use now is taken with an extremely dim view. God is a holy being. Even those who have no belief in God can show respect to people of faith.

Only people are worthy of honor in my life.

What about other living creatures? Do you respect people's pets, the wildlife in your area? You may not honor other people's yards and belongings, but do you treat them with respect? Traffic laws? Library books? Menus?

 

[alang1216]

What about promises? Or truth? Or logic? Are those "things" not worthy of your honor?

honor: high respect; great esteem; adherence to what is right or to a conventional standard of conduct.

There used to be a word people often used against Blacks, and another word used against Jews to convey emotion and views. As a whole, society deemed these words so disrespectful to people that their use now is taken with an extremely dim view. God is a holy being. Even those who have no belief in God can show respect to people of faith.

What about other living creatures? Do you respect people's pets, the wildlife in your area? You may not honor other people's yards and belongings, but do you treat them with respect? Traffic laws? Library books? Menus?

Since the question I responded to was "What is worthy of honor and holiness in your life?", I was perhaps too restrictive in what I honor. I honor all the things listed (except perhaps 'menus'?) but my highest honor (holiness for an atheist?) is reserved for people.

 

[ding]

Since the question I responded to was "What is worthy of honor and holiness in your life?", I was perhaps too restrictive in what I honor. I honor all the things listed (except perhaps 'menus'?) but my highest honor (holiness for an atheist?) is reserved for people.

It is the behavior (i.e. intangibles) of the person that is the reason you honor the person. And since God is every extant attribute of reality (which incudes love, truth and logic), that's why we honor God too.

 

[luiza]

Is holiness worthwhile?​

Depends where the holes are .
Jesus the Essene monk was not happy with his .

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Atheists who swear or sometimes use profanity: Do you ever profane the names of Buddha, Allah, Brahma, Shiva, Hercules? Then why is it acceptable to swear by the name of God or Jesus?

It's not. Why do you think it is acceptable

 

[Carl in Michigan]

But no protest about using the name of God in vain.

Maybe in your circles, not mine

 

[Meriweather]

but my highest honor (holiness for an atheist?) is reserved for people.

Let's start with the fact that it is Christians as well as atheists who use the name of God and/or Jesus improperly, as a profanity, an "emotional exclamatory", or in vain. That can be followed up by the etymology of 'holy' which means to be set apart, and also as pure and unblemished.

God is holy, meaning God is apart from humanity, yet with the resurrection and ascension of Jesus, he is also a part of humanity. Still, God's purpose is apart from any human purpose. The Commandments tell us God's name is holy (set apart) and should not be used in vain...carelessly--and certainly not as a blasphemy. Everyone--whether a person of faith or not--should be able to set apart the name of God to be used only with reverence.

As far as your highest honor being reserved for people: While I don't think any of us have the power to set apart others, if we are speaking of our own behavior, I agree it can be said some set aside as holy all face-to-face interactions with actual people. One example I can think of is watching the news on TV and calling someone an idiot. Snapping at the TV set is not the same as insulting an individual face-to-face.
For people of faith, we set aside God as holy, and we do not behave towards him as we might to a family member with whom we are temporarily irritated.

 

[Meriweather]

Is holiness worthwhile?​

Depends where the holes are .

Holes do separate from the whole. Sometimes separating from the whole for a special purpose is of benefit to the whole.

 

[alang1216]

It is the behavior (i.e. intangibles) of the person that is the reason you honor the person. And since God is every extant attribute of reality (which incudes love, truth and logic), that's why we honor God too.

You can define your reality any way you choose, that is your right. Newborns have a rather limited range of behaviors but I consider them precious.

 

[alang1216]

Let's start with the fact that it is Christians as well as atheists who use the name of God and/or Jesus improperly, as a profanity, an "emotional exclamatory", or in vain. That can be followed up by the etymology of 'holy' which means to be set apart, and also as pure and unblemished.

God is holy, meaning God is apart from humanity, yet with the resurrection and ascension of Jesus, he is also a part of humanity. Still, God's purpose is apart from any human purpose. The Commandments tell us God's name is holy (set apart) and should not be used in vain...carelessly--and certainly not as a blasphemy. Everyone--whether a person of faith or not--should be able to set apart the name of God to be used only with reverence.

As far as your highest honor being reserved for people: While I don't think any of us have the power to set apart others, if we are speaking of our own behavior, I agree it can be said some set aside as holy all face-to-face interactions with actual people. One example I can think of is watching the news on TV and calling someone an idiot. Snapping at the TV set is not the same as insulting an individual face-to-face.
For people of faith, we set aside God as holy, and we do not behave towards him as we might to a family member with whom we are temporarily irritated.

It has rarely been my intention to offend anyone, I'd rather just walk away. I respect your beliefs, even those I don't share.

 

[Meriweather]

It has rarely been my intention to offend anyone, I'd rather just walk away. I respect your beliefs, even those I don't share.

I wasn't implying you. I've never found you offensive. I was speaking of society as a whole. What started this line of thinking was reading fairly recent novels, and language I mentioned used not to be used--or at least edited out. And, of course, I hear it among middle school students as well. No one seems to pay it any attention....

 

[BreezeWood]

What is worthy of honor and holiness in your life?

to the heavens all are equal ...

certainly the desert religions of servitude and denial have lost their way.

 

[ding]

You can define your reality any way you choose, that is your right. Newborns have a rather limited range of behaviors but I consider them precious.

Exactly. Because of their innocent nature. Which by the way is incorporeal.

 

[alang1216]

I wasn't implying you. I've never found you offensive. I was speaking of society as a whole. What started this line of thinking was reading fairly recent novels, and language I mentioned used not to be used--or at least edited out. And, of course, I hear it among middle school students as well. No one seems to pay it any attention....

It is definitely a different society from the one I was born into but that doesn't mean it is any worse, only that I'm not used to it.