Is Healthcare a Right? Obama Says "Yes!"

[Jackson]

Is Healthcare a Right? Obama Says "Yes!"

And of course, again he's wrong. It cannot be a right, when it is mandated, fined if you don't get it and jailed if you don't pay the fine. The last time I read the Bill of Rights, they just don't work that way.

But this is what our leader said in the White House September 26, 2013.

The White House ✔ @WhiteHouse Follow
President Obama: "In the United States of America, health care is not a privilege for a fortunate few—it is a right." #Obamacare
9:57 AM - 26 Sep 2013
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So, liberals, defend your leader, or tell me he was having yet another bad day. What do you think?

 

[rightwinger]

The majority of the civilized world looks at healthcare as a basic human right

The only exception is those who believe in .....Let em die

 

[TakeAStepBack]

You do not have the right to someone elses services.

 

[rightwinger]

Most Of The World Has A Constitutional Right To Health Care, But Not The US, Even With Obamacare On The Way

More than half of the world's countries have some degree of a guaranteed right to public health and medical care for their citizens, written into their national constitutions.

The study found that 73 United Nations member countries guaranteed the right to medical care services, while 27 countries aspired to protect this right in 2011.

The United States is one of 86 countries whose constitutions do not guarantee their citizens any kind of health protection. This is particularly true in the case of countries with older constitutions that have not been meaningfully amended since constitutional rights to health became common practice. The United States Constitution was written in 1776, and all major amendments to it, found in the Bill of Rights, are all pertinent, but none really regard health care.

 

[rightwinger]

Time to amend the Constitution to make healthcare a right

Only a Libertarian would oppose

 

[Jackson]

Time to amend the Constitution to make healthcare a right

Only a Libertarian would oppose

Are there "steps" in your right? The King has better rights than the peon on the street? Who gets the heart for a transplant? Bet it's the king or a well placed "Royal". So there goes the equal rights, or are there "equal rights" in your world?

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Time to amend the Constitution to make healthcare a rightOnly a Libertarian would oppose

Good luck.

 

[Jackson]

The majority of the civilized world looks at healthcare as a basic human right

The only exception is those who believe in .....Let em die

We never did have the streets riddled with bodies, now did we? We didn't turn people away. Now under Obamacare, it sounds like that is exactly what is going to happen. Hospitals don't cover Obamacare exchanges... heard there is one hospital in Georgia for Obamacare exchanges??? That's too hard for me to believe.

 

[Vox]

No, it is NOT.
and if we do not want to violate the REAL human rights we should not consider it as such.

this does not mean that some basic level of medical care should not be available - UNIVERSALLY.

a BASIC one.

can be paid for by 1% of the federal sales tax - with an unchangeable provision that those funds go to healthcare needs ONLY.
no wars, no union pension increases, no "meals on wheels" funding from that specific fund - just the healthcare needs.

 

[dblack]

Time to amend the Constitution to make healthcare a right

Only a Libertarian would oppose

Thank you.

 

[WillReadmore]

Time to amend the Constitution to make healthcare a right

Only a Libertarian would oppose

Are there "steps" in your right? The King has better rights than the peon on the street? Who gets the heart for a transplant? Bet it's the king or a well placed "Royal". So there goes the equal rights, or are there "equal rights" in your world?

Single payer systems have been far more successful world wide, giving better health care distribution, costing far less and getting competitive outcomes.

And, such systems treat humans with far greater equality than we had before Obamacare - and even WITH Obamacare, single payer is more equitable.

Perhaps that is why Obama wanted a single payer system for America.

 

[Vox]

Time to amend the Constitution to make healthcare a right

Only a Libertarian would oppose

Are there "steps" in your right? The King has better rights than the peon on the street? Who gets the heart for a transplant? Bet it's the king or a well placed "Royal". So there goes the equal rights, or are there "equal rights" in your world?

Single payer systems have been far more successful world wide, giving better health care distribution, costing far less and getting competitive outcomes.

And, such systems treat humans with far greater equality than we had before Obamacare - and even WITH Obamacare, single payer is more equitable.

Perhaps that is why Obama wanted a single payer system for America.

bullshit.

singlepayer system is basically a major failure if one considers anything beyond the BASIC medical coverage.

 

[dblack]

Time to amend the Constitution to make healthcare a right

Only a Libertarian would oppose

Are there "steps" in your right? The King has better rights than the peon on the street? Who gets the heart for a transplant? Bet it's the king or a well placed "Royal". So there goes the equal rights, or are there "equal rights" in your world?

Single payer systems have been far more successful world wide, giving better health care distribution, costing far less and getting competitive outcomes.

And, such systems treat humans with far greater equality than we had before Obamacare - and even WITH Obamacare, single payer is more equitable.

Perhaps that is why Obama wanted a single payer system for America.

He did!?!? I guess he forgot all about the veto power.

 

[rightwinger]

Time to amend the Constitution to make healthcare a right

Only a Libertarian would oppose

Are there "steps" in your right? The King has better rights than the peon on the street? Who gets the heart for a transplant? Bet it's the king or a well placed "Royal". So there goes the equal rights, or are there "equal rights" in your world?

Even now a "royal" does not get priority on transplant lists. It is all anonymous and based on the priority of the case itself

 

[TakeAStepBack]

I'd love to hear rightwinger explain how someone has the right to someone elses services.

 

[Vox]

Time to amend the Constitution to make healthcare a right

Only a Libertarian would oppose

Are there "steps" in your right? The King has better rights than the peon on the street? Who gets the heart for a transplant? Bet it's the king or a well placed "Royal". So there goes the equal rights, or are there "equal rights" in your world?

Even now a "royal" does not get priority on transplant lists. It is all anonymous and based on the priority of the case itself

yes they do now - after the court system decided to rule on the 10 yo transplant.

the single payer system is one single magnificent corruption.
And only those who know it - know how to become royal
which I DO.

I was royal in single payer system before - I will be again.

You - won't

 

[Jackson]

Time to amend the Constitution to make healthcare a right

Only a Libertarian would oppose

Are there "steps" in your right? The King has better rights than the peon on the street? Who gets the heart for a transplant? Bet it's the king or a well placed "Royal". So there goes the equal rights, or are there "equal rights" in your world?

Single payer systems have been far more successful world wide, giving better health care distribution, costing far less and getting competitive outcomes.

And, such systems treat humans with far greater equality than we had before Obamacare - and even WITH Obamacare, single payer is more equitable.

Perhaps that is why Obama wanted a single payer system for America.

What's the difference between that and expanding Medicaid to those who are not insured??

 

[Vox]

I'd love to hear rightwinger explain how someone has the right to someone elses services.

he is ignorant.

the single payer system is one humongous corruption system.

Some patients are more equal than the others - if there is no business incentive

that's a rule of the thumb.

 

[Vox]

Are there "steps" in your right? The King has better rights than the peon on the street? Who gets the heart for a transplant? Bet it's the king or a well placed "Royal". So there goes the equal rights, or are there "equal rights" in your world?

Single payer systems have been far more successful world wide, giving better health care distribution, costing far less and getting competitive outcomes.

And, such systems treat humans with far greater equality than we had before Obamacare - and even WITH Obamacare, single payer is more equitable.

Perhaps that is why Obama wanted a single payer system for America.

What's the difference between that and expanding Medicaid to those who are not insured??

there is no money for Medicaid expansion.
If everyone is medicaid - there is no need of additional money, as everything becomes severely rationalized - in all 360 dimension.

you won't get a more radical but more expensive treatment when you are 70+ because those are reserved for those 40+ who are still the workforce and not you, who are a ballast now.
There won't be a surgery after 4 pm as after 4 pm only emergencies go ( as is now in the VA system).
So if you are admitted on the Friday night - your chole won't happen until Tuesday Unless you re a doctor's relative

 

[WillReadmore]

Are there "steps" in your right? The King has better rights than the peon on the street? Who gets the heart for a transplant? Bet it's the king or a well placed "Royal". So there goes the equal rights, or are there "equal rights" in your world?

Single payer systems have been far more successful world wide, giving better health care distribution, costing far less and getting competitive outcomes.

And, such systems treat humans with far greater equality than we had before Obamacare - and even WITH Obamacare, single payer is more equitable.

Perhaps that is why Obama wanted a single payer system for America.

He did!?!? I guess he forgot all about the veto power.

Only the TP thinks you can create something by saying "no" to everything.

We got Obamacare as a concession made by congress and accepted by the president.