Zone1 Is Atheism Depressing?

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Sounds good to me.

Exactly. It's the logical conclusion of the belief.

 

[Leo123]

Don't all atheists believe that only the material world exists?

Then how can I be wrong that they are only concerned with satisfaction of material needs and primitive impulses? What else is there for them to be concerned with?

It's literally an artifact of their beliefs.

Atheists have a huge problem. If they believe that only a material world exists, why can't we use the elements we have (in our material world) to create life in some kind of primordial soup?

 

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Define "atheism".

Belief that the only thing that exists is the material world.

 

[BreezeWood]

Atheists have a huge problem. If they believe that only a material world exists, why can't we use the elements we have (in our material world) to create life in some kind of primordial soup?

are you speaking for the atheists ... or the desert religions.

- because physiology is a metaphysical substance that can only exist when accompanied with its own unique spiritual content for its guidance which is unknown to reproduce necessary for creating life ... is why that will never work the elements in a primordial mixture.

 

[Leo123]

are you speaking for the atheists ... or the desert religions.

- because physiology is a metaphysical substance that can only exist when accompanied with its own unique spiritual content for its guidance which is unknown to reproduce necessary for creating life ... is why that will never work the elements in a primordial mixture.

I asked a question FOR atheists and anyone else who thinks human beings came from a primordial conglomeration of elements in some kind of pond. If they actually BELIEVE that let them prove it. So far, they have not been able to replicate life, they have only been able to use existing RNA to make a 'living' cell.

 

[Pisa]

Don't all atheists believe that only the material world exists?

Then how can I be wrong that they are only concerned with satisfaction of material needs and primitive impulses? What else is there for them to be concerned with?

It's literally an artifact of their beliefs.

I don't know what all atheists believe. We're not a hive.

 

[Pisa]

Belief that the only thing that exists is the material world.

Atheism is not a belief. It's a nonbelief.

 

[Pisa]

Atheists have a huge problem. If they believe that only a material world exists, why can't we use the elements we have (in our material world) to create life in some kind of primordial soup?

Who said we can't?

Miller-Urey experiment | Description, Purpose, Results, & Facts | Britannica

Miller-Urey experiment, experimental simulation conducted in 1953 that attempted to replicate the conditions of Earth’s early atmosphere and oceans to test whether organic molecules could be created abiogenically, that is, formed from chemical reactions occurring between inorganic molecules thought

www.britannica.com

 

[Pisa]

I asked a question FOR atheists and anyone else who thinks human beings came from a primordial conglomeration of elements in some kind of pond. If they actually BELIEVE that let them prove it. So far, they have not been able to replicate life, they have only been able to use existing RNA to make a 'living' cell.

Dolly the cloned sheep.

 

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I don't know what all atheists believe. We're not a hive.

Atheists are materialists in the sense that's that all they believe exist; the material world.

And apparently, you must be ashamed of it because you don't seem to want to admit it.

 

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Atheism is not a belief. It's a nonbelief.

No, you are trying to describe atheism as a negation. Atheists believe the only thing that exists is the material world. That's the affirmative way of describing their beliefs.

 

[BreezeWood]

I asked a question FOR atheists and anyone else who thinks human beings came from a primordial conglomeration of elements in some kind of pond. If they actually BELIEVE that let them prove it. So far, they have not been able to replicate life, they have only been able to use existing RNA to make a 'living' cell.

true, atheism hasn't an answer for the metaphysical presence of the spiritual content that guides physiology ... and never will is their basic flaw but in no way proves anything related to the desert religions.

using rna to "make a living cell" is quite an accomplishment ...

 

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true, atheism hasn't an answer for the metaphysical presence of the spiritual content that guides physiology ...

Actually they do. They say there is none.

 

[BreezeWood]

Actually they do. They say there is none.

photographic, visual and clinical evidence - proves otherwise ...

the cicadas physiology being transformed by its spiritual content from a land dweller to an avian being.

 

[Leo123]

Who said we can't?

Miller-Urey experiment | Description, Purpose, Results, & Facts | Britannica

Miller-Urey experiment, experimental simulation conducted in 1953 that attempted to replicate the conditions of Earth’s early atmosphere and oceans to test whether organic molecules could be created abiogenically, that is, formed from chemical reactions occurring between inorganic molecules thought

www.britannica.com

No life was created in all those experiments though.

 

[task0778]

The thing about atheism is that it basically denies the possibility of an afterlife. When the love of your life dies, most non-atheists find some comfort in believing that some kind of spiritual reuniting will happen after you die. But an atheist doesn't have that comfort, which I think would be quite depressing.

 

[AHZ]

Atheism and agnosticism are depressing.

I am NOT saying atheists are wrong because atheism is depressing.

I am only suggesting atheism is a bleak philosophy.

Some quotes:

“That Man is the product of causes which had no prevision of the end they were achieving; that his origin, his growth, his hopes and fears, his loves and his beliefs, are but the outcome of accidental collocations of atoms; that no fire, no heroism, no intensity of thought and feeling, can preserve an individual life beyond the grave; that all the labours of the ages, all the devotion, all the inspiration, all the noonday brightness of human genius, are destined to extinction in the vast death of the solar system, and that the whole temple of Man’s achievement must inevitably be buried beneath the débris of a universe in ruins—all these things, if not quite beyond dispute, are yet so nearly certain, that no philosophy which rejects them can hope to stand. Only within the scaffolding of these truths, only on the firm foundation of unyielding despair, can the soul’s habitation henceforth be safely built.” Bertrand Russell



“I know no study which is so unutterably saddening as that of the evolution of humanity, as it is set forth in the annals of history. Out of the darkness of prehistoric ages man emerges with the marks of his lowly origin strong upon him. He is a brute, only more intelligent than the other brutes, a blind prey to impulses, which as often as not lead him to destruction; a victim to endless illusions, which make his mental existence a terror and a burden, and fill his physical life with barren toil and battle.” Thomas Huxley



“Humanity has in the course of time had to endure from the hands of science two great outrages upon its naive self-love. The first was when it realized that our earth was not the center of the universe, but only a tiny speck in a world-system of a magnitude hardly conceivable; this is associated in our minds with the name of Copernicus, although Alexandrian doctrines taught something very similar. The second was when biological research robbed man of his peculiar privilege of having been specially created, and relegated him to a descent from the animal world, implying an ineradicable animal nature in him: this transvaluation has been accomplished in our own time upon the instigation of Charles Darwin, Wallace, and their predecessors, and not without the most violent opposition from their contemporaries. But man's craving for grandiosity is now suffering the third and most bitter blow from present-day psychological research which is endeavoring to prove to the ego of each one of us that he is not even master in his own house, but that he must remain content with the veriest scraps of information about what is going on unconsciously in his own mind. We psycho-analysts were neither the first nor the only ones to propose to mankind that they should look inward; but it appears to be our lot to advocate it most insistently and to support it by empirical evidence which touches every man closely.” Sigmund Freud

atheism being depressing makes it wrong.

nihilistic thinking is meant to inculcate self defeat.

 

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photographic, visual and clinical evidence - proves otherwise ...

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the cicadas physiology being transformed by its spiritual content from a land dweller to an avian being.

No. That's called biology.

 

[Leo123]

Who said we can't?

Miller-Urey experiment | Description, Purpose, Results, & Facts | Britannica

Miller-Urey experiment, experimental simulation conducted in 1953 that attempted to replicate the conditions of Earth’s early atmosphere and oceans to test whether organic molecules could be created abiogenically, that is, formed from chemical reactions occurring between inorganic molecules thought

www.britannica.com

Your link provides no evidence of life creation by humans. No one says we can't but so far it has not been possible. Here is another perspective..

James M Tour Group » Evolution/Creation

Animadversions of a Synthetic Chemist | James Tour | Inference

Chemists study molecules. Synthetic chemists make them. What Nature does is anyone’s guess. James Tour describes constructing nanovehicles from scratch, and considers the implications. Do we really know anything about abiogenesis?

inference-review.com

“Those who think scientists understand the issues of prebiotic chemistry are wholly misinformed. Nobody understands them. Maybe one day we will. But that day is far from today. It would be far more helpful (and hopeful) to expose students to the massive gaps in our understanding. They may find a firmer—and possibly a radically different—scientific theory."

 

[Leo123]

true, atheism hasn't an answer for the metaphysical presence of the spiritual content that guides physiology ... and never will is their basic flaw but in no way proves anything related to the desert religions.

using rna to "make a living cell" is quite an accomplishment ...

Using RNA while trying to prove non intelligent creation of life only proves you can make life from existing life.