Is Anti-Zionism the Same as Anti-Semitism?

[rosends]

Another example of Zionist rhetoric for you:

Hey look! More stuff which doesn't support your point.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Of course I knew, you are not going to read those remarks and admit they parallel what some Nazis said about Jews, you can't bring yourself to admit that.

You would never admit that this was inexcusable language, because you actually approve of it all yourself, you probably use such language yourself when in secure, safe company.

So you scroll instead.

I see straight through you.

 

[Churchill]

Still not relevant. Pay attention.

Not to you.

 

[Churchill]

I see straight through you.

Do you condone this apparently racist language? this is from Ben-Gvir

“My right, the right of my wife and my children to move around Judea and Samaria is more important than freedom of movement for the Arabs,” he said in a Wednesday evening interview with Channel 12 News, using the biblical term for the occupied territory.

See, this is another example of Zionism in action, one judges a tree by its fruit.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Do you condone this apparently racist language? this is from Ben-Gvir



See, this is another example of Zionism in action, one judges a tree by its fruit.

I’ve heard it all before.

You’re probably a sock from another thread.

 

[Churchill]

I’ve heard it all before.

I bet you have, lots of people don't approve of such talk.

You’re probably a sock from another thread.

Do you condone such language?

Yes you do, you are as bad as Ben-Gvir.

 

[rosends]

Not to you.

of course not as I know what I'm talking about and that makes you feel inferior.

 

[BackAgain]

I have no idea.

I think a good way to explore that question is to consider how we'd react to this question:

Did Nazi Germany and its occupied territories have a right to exist?

Nice dodge.

Now try to actually just answer the question.

I’ll grant you, your little dodge does represent the answer I expected from you. But fallacies make for shit arguments.

 

[JWBooth]

Only people who truly don’t understand Zionism can insist that anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism

I’ve probably posted a dozen separate demonstrations of Jews protesting Israel and Zionism, it doesn’t register

“The spirit of Zionism is the spirit of hatred, war, and conflict.”
Pastor Chuck Baldwin

 

[rosends]

“The spirit of Zionism is the spirit of hatred, war, and conflict.”
Pastor Chuck Baldwin

"The spirit of Pastor Chuck Baldwin is the spirit of hatred, war, and conflict.”
Zionist

 

[Polishprince]

Former German leader Adolf Hitler was a noted anti-Zionist, was he an anti-Semite?

 

[Churchill]

Nice dodge.

Yes, get's you thinking doesn't it.

Now try to actually just answer the question.

I don't know the answer.

I’ll grant you, your little dodge does represent the answer I expected from you. But fallacies make for shit arguments.

I chose Nazi Germany as an example because it's in the past, over and we can use hindsight to help answer it.

Since you can't answer whether it had a right to exist, what chance do we have of answering the question with respect to Israel?

I mean explain please how do we decide if some state has a "right" to exist or not, what is the test we must apply?

 

[Churchill]

of course not as I know what I'm talking about and that makes you feel inferior.

I have nothing to gain by listening to yet more Zionist propaganda, something dedicated Zionists have been perfecting for a century or more, I've heard it all before, Israel the victim, surrounded by primitive violent beasts called "Palestinians", facing an eternal struggle against antisemitic injustice.

It's old, tired and there are plenty of Jews who have challenged this narrative.

Your goal is to impose your interpretation of Israel and its practices, upon the audience here, you fear it when lies are exposed, evidence presented. Its all about controlling the narrative, doing all you can to distort the situation using feigned erudition as your tool of choice.

Your goal is to attempt to rationalize blatant barbarity, you even let slip your penchant for racial supremacy with your "you feel inferior" remark, ridiculous, utterly pathetic.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Yes, get's you thinking doesn't it.

About you?

Imao.

 

[Churchill]

About you?

Imao.

You just keep walking right into these things don't you, looks like I'm in good company.

Go on girl, call him an antisemite, you know you want to...

 

[ShahdagMountains]

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You just keep walking right into these things don't you, looks like I'm in good company.

Go on girl, call him an antisemite, you know you want to...

 

[rosends]

I have nothing to gain by listening to yet more Zionist propaganda, something dedicated Zionists have been perfecting for a century or more, I've heard it all before, Israel the victim, surrounded by primitive violent beasts called "Palestinians", facing an eternal struggle against antisemitic injustice.

It's old, tired and there are plenty of Jews who have challenged this narrative.

Your goal is to impose your interpretation of Israel and its practices, upon the audience here, you fear it when lies are exposed, evidence presented. Its all about controlling the narrative, doing all you can to distort the situation using feigned erudition as your tool of choice.

Your goal is to attempt to rationalize blatant barbarity, you even let slip your penchant for racial supremacy with your "you feel inferior" remark, ridiculous, utterly pathetic.

I guess it is easier to make up stories about what I think and believe than to learn truth.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/settler-violence-myth

 

[Churchill]

I guess it is easier to make up stories about what I think and believe than to learn truth.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/settler-violence-myth

Nothing new here, this is the old "don't believe your eyes and ears, believe me" strategy. No different to Holocaust deniers, exactly the same approach, rationalize, sanitize.



If you came to my house and said to get out, go away because God gave me this land, do you think I'd say "Oh OK, sorry, my mistake".

Dunce.

 

[rosends]

Nothing new here, this is the old "don't believe your eyes and ears, believe me" strategy. No different to Holocaust deniers, exactly the same approach, rationalize, sanitize.

you keep tellng yourself that. It is easier than actually learning things.

The Settler Violence Myth: A Judea and Samaria Case Study

In the international media, NGOs, and political discourse, a recurring theme is the narrative of rampant Israeli "settler violence" in the West Bank, or as Jews more accurately call it, Judea and Samaria. This storyline, however, is riddled with distortion. It selectively presents data, strips away

israelinstitute.nz

Facts dispel the media myth of Israeli ‘settler violence’

Violence by Jewish residents in Judea and Samaria is grossly exaggerated and pales in comparison to the number of Palestinian terrorist attacks against Jews.

www.jns.org

The Blogs: Settlers Violence – A 21st-Century Blood Libel

From the blog of Dov Daniel at The Times of Israel

blogs.timesofisrael.com

and, of course, none of this helps bolster your position regarding Zionism because it just shows that you still don't understand the term.

 

[Churchill]

you keep tellng yourself that. It is easier than actually learning things.

The Settler Violence Myth: A Judea and Samaria Case Study

In the international media, NGOs, and political discourse, a recurring theme is the narrative of rampant Israeli "settler violence" in the West Bank, or as Jews more accurately call it, Judea and Samaria. This storyline, however, is riddled with distortion. It selectively presents data, strips away

israelinstitute.nz

Facts dispel the media myth of Israeli ‘settler violence’

Violence by Jewish residents in Judea and Samaria is grossly exaggerated and pales in comparison to the number of Palestinian terrorist attacks against Jews.

www.jns.org

The Blogs: Settlers Violence – A 21st-Century Blood Libel

From the blog of Dov Daniel at The Times of Israel

blogs.timesofisrael.com

and, of course, none of this helps bolster your position regarding Zionism because it just shows that you still don't understand the term.

Again I've seen it all before, read about it for years.

You see the approach isn't to justify this or that act of violence or explain this or that case as due to some details of which we are unaware, no, that isn't the aproach.

Then what is the approach? denial, complete blatant denial, we are asked to not trust our own eyes and ears, we are told that we have completely misjudged the situation, that the reality is the exact opposite of what or common sense reveals to us.

This is how Hitler demonized the Jews, not on some case by case examples but as a complete narrative, Jews are a threat to Germans and Germany, they are akin to rats, they refuse assimilate, they cannot be trusted.

It's sad, truly sad that you embrace the same strategy to lie about victims as the Nazis did to lie about Jews.

As I said already I don't need a Nazi to "explain" Nazism to me, we didn't need it 80 years ago when my ancestors fought against them and we didn't accept their claptrap at Nuremberg either.

You cannot fool me.