Is another Civil War brewing?

[Dana7360]

... or is that alarmist?
Even the "gay marriage" is aligning South vs. North...or no?

If what you think will happen, there doesn't need to be a war.

I say let the south go. Have them pay us back the money they've been given through the decades. Have them buy the federal land and buildings and let them pay their own way. For once.

I'm tired of the south sponging off the rest of us while at the same time hating us.

 

[Uncensored2008]

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I agree less then 20% chance of it really happening.

BUT, it was 10% a year ago.

Obama decides to outlaw all ammunition sales - and violence would erupt.

The truth is we are sitting on a powder keg - playing with matches is a really stupid idea - but appears the only one the Administration has.

 

[JakeStarkey]

We would have to build a wall to keep the southbacks from trying to get north.

Instead it is better to educate their children in the next twenty years how much better life has become than before.

 

[MarcATL]

Bullshit, but for a few malcontents, we are all Americans.

When our enemies shoot at us, there are no Dash-Americans.

The only way I would raise a rifle today to defend this country, is if the enemy invaded our soil and declared war on Americans.
Aside from that, this country is no longer worth fighting for.

And you will happily take what freebies you can from it. Your type always takes free things.

I'm sorry, you must have mistaken me for someone else. You don't know me or my motivations. What freebies exactly? I love my country. I'm a proud American and southerner. I support same sex marriage, I support flying the confederate battle flag and old glory. I'm not a racist, I don't discriminate against same sex couples, and I work hard for my piece of the American pie. Fact: This nation is divided. Hate, discrimination, the attack on guns and flags, God, love, and those who think they deserve something for nothing are to blame. Fact: This nations security is being compromised by civil unrest, terrorists, and ourselves. We're far from being united.

I am a 12th generation American.

In the 7th, there was some trouble, and, my people came out on the wrong end of it.

Here in the 12th generation, I honor that they did their duty, came home, and started over.

I despise the desecration of the Confederate flag by ignorant assholes, and it is a shame the tasteful display of it in a historical setting has become a political issue because of the actions of an insane person.

Keeps the peoples' minds off their economic woes though.

I don't recall you ever calling out the white supremacists who were using the confederate flag to further their racist agenda.

Could it be because He's sympatico with them?

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[CallMeKush]

What a bunch of thieves! You unwittingly side with racist bigots.

Old Glory saw the freedom of Americans to equal treatment under the law expanded just last Friday. Old glory stands for expanding the rights and freedoms of those who are denied them by the racists and bigots.

So while Old Glory has some sins in the past it has prevailed over ensuring that all Americans have the right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness.

Unfortunately the confederate flag never stood for any of those things. Quite the opposite which is why it was co-opted by the racists because they rightly perceived it as a symbol of their white supremacist beliefs. Roof embraced it, and the racist flag of the Apartheid regime, for that very reason.

There is no justification for flying the confederate flag over any government property whatsoever.

That doesn't mean it won't still fly, but those who do fly it now know that they can't deny the racism for which it stands.

I'm offended by the broad brushing and by those who demand the confederate flag be a symbol of hate and racism. It wasn't at its inception and it isn't now to most southerner's. It's a battle flag symbolizing southern pride. Only those who focus on fear, race, and bigotry view this flag in a negative manner.

That flag represents southern pride - pure and simple. People can demonize it to their hearts content, but it has never been a symbol of hate to southerner's, only by those who fear.

Strength, bravery, the fighting spirit of the south, deep deep roots, community, hospitality, and unbreakable southern pride is what that flag represents, and I dare say this is true for the vast majority of those who now fight to reclaim it.

Intolerant, fearful, and racially driven people are fueling the flames of division. Maybe, just maybe the problem doesn't rest with those who proudly fly this flag, but with those who are discriminating against US. Who are the real victims here? Is it the black community? Is it the ban the flag proponents? No! It's those of us who are being labeled and viewed as racists over a symbol of southern pride and culture. It has nothing to do with hate and bigotry. It's a battle flag symbolizing southern pride.

 

[BULLDOG]

What?

IF democrats try what leftists through the ages do - the genocide of enemies of the party, then they will meet resistance. What you of the left rely on, are disarmed victims. The right will never START a civil war, the only way one happens is if you leftists push too far.

Do you know what genocide is?

 

[BULLDOG]

No, they won't.

People WILL be shooting democrats. Greece could start shooting them any time now.

You and your buds such as Roadrunner are the village idiots. The end is predestined, and it will be so much different than you hope.

75% of the guns owned in America are by Republicans.

Republicans have gone crazy, but even they aren't that crazy.

A literal handful are, have you been observing the thread?

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Sure. the regular crazies are worked themselves into a tizzy. I fear they will actually act on their hatred some day.

 

[CallMeKush]

... or is that alarmist?
Even the "gay marriage" is aligning South vs. North...or no?

If what you think will happen, there doesn't need to be a war.

I say let the south go. Have them pay us back the money they've been given through the decades. Have them buy the federal land and buildings and let them pay their own way. For once.

I'm tired of the south sponging off the rest of us while at the same time hating us.

I'm a southerner. I don't hate. I don't sponge and I have no desire to leave the South.

Abraham Lincoln respond this way when asked, "Why not let the South go in peace"?

He responded "I can't let them go. Who would pay for the government?…

 

[MarcATL]

It's as though you were walking in the woods and you encounter a corpse in a creek bed. You are horrified! Stunned! Shocked! And ultimately helpless until you clear your mind and call the authorities.

The stench lingers in your sinuses. The image haunts your dreams. The way you felt when first seeing and recognizing that you had found something so gruesome and putrid that it shook you to your very core.

And that's precisely my reaction to Dark Fury's hateful, misguided, and ultimately stupid posts.

*one-man standing ovation*

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[JakeStarkey]

... or is that alarmist?
Even the "gay marriage" is aligning South vs. North...or no?

If what you think will happen, there doesn't need to be a war.

I say let the south go. Have them pay us back the money they've been given through the decades. Have them buy the federal land and buildings and let them pay their own way. For once.

I'm tired of the south sponging off the rest of us while at the same time hating us.

I'm a southerner. I don't hate. I don't sponge and I have no desire to leave the South.

Abraham Lincoln respond this way when asked, "Why not let the South go in peace"?

He responded "I can't let them go. Who would pay for the government?…

Only you said it, silly. AL said, "If the South wages war, I will execute the southern states," which is exactly what happened.

 

[MarcATL]

The only way I would raise a rifle today to defend this country, is if the enemy invaded our soil and declared war on Americans.
Aside from that, this country is no longer worth fighting for.

And you will happily take what freebies you can from it. Your type always takes free things.

I'm sorry, you must have mistaken me for someone else. You don't know me or my motivations. What freebies exactly? I love my country. I'm a proud American and southerner. I support same sex marriage, I support flying the confederate battle flag and old glory. I'm not a racist, I don't discriminate against same sex couples, and I work hard for my piece of the American pie. Fact: This nation is divided. Hate, discrimination, the attack on guns and flags, God, love, and those who think they deserve something for nothing are to blame. Fact: This nations security is being compromised by civil unrest, terrorists, and ourselves. We're far from being united.

I am a 12th generation American.

In the 7th, there was some trouble, and, my people came out on the wrong end of it.

Here in the 12th generation, I honor that they did their duty, came home, and started over.

I despise the desecration of the Confederate flag by ignorant assholes, and it is a shame the tasteful display of it in a historical setting has become a political issue because of the actions of an insane person.

Keeps the peoples' minds off their economic woes though.

To deem the confederate flag a symbol of bigoted hate nationwide because of a very tiny few who have used it to that end is shameful. It does little more than honor those few who hate and invalidate the many who don't. This nation is taking a symbol of southern pride and are handing it over to hateful bigots.

Civil unrest? Damn right! And here we have people so oblivious to what's going on they fuel the racial tension unwittingly by demonizing a flag ... Political correctness so unjust ... So terribly misguided! Here's a thought: Quit attacking THINGS and start dealing with the criminally disturbed PEOPLE who use things to meet their hate filled ends.

By failing to call out the white supremacists and racists who were using the confederate flag for their vile agenda you surrendered control of it over to them.

Had you spoken out against them when they first began using it you might have a point.

But you didn't!

So now your silence is seen as condoning racism.

That's the long and short of it.

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[Vandalshandle]

Guys, get over it. I am, and always have been a Southerner. Nobody is pissed at Yankees. Even I am ashamed of parts of MS. LA , SC, and AL. but, for the most part, this is a manufactured crisis created by racists, and blaming it on events that happened years ago, having absolutely nothing to do with the South and Southerners, in general..

 

[Kondor3]

Doubtful.

And not a good idea.

 

[flacaltenn]

We would have to build a wall to keep the southbacks from trying to get north.

Instead it is better to educate their children in the next twenty years how much better life has become than before.

What an ignorant thing to say.. We are proud of the Southern record on race relations.. Was ugly to start, but our kids are well adjusted thank-you.. Has a lot to do with FAITH, MANNERS, sports, the blues, moonshine and maybe guns.. (OK -- not all of those at once)

Your Yankee kids could learn a lot about not having Black killing fields in your Urban Areas.. Perhaps we should teach YOUR kids a few things..

 

[MarcATL]

What a lot of hyperbole.
There is not the slightest chance of anything like an organized rebellion against the present government.
There is not the slightest chance that anything presenting itself as a domestic opposing force would survive the first hostile contact with US troops.

There's not the slightest chance of a successful rebellion. There's not the slightest chance of a rebellion consisting of a few beer buddies cruising around in a dirty Dodge Durango.

People revolt because they're hungry or poor or repressed. Someday, they'll produce a reality show about new-confederates or radical militias or gun fetishists. That's as organized as it will get. How can one united a mob angry over rule of law?

Here is exactly what happened when armed white racists tried to overthrow the government of one of the small african states set up by the Apartheid regime in South Africa.

Very informative brother. Looks like AWB got what they were looking for.

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[MarcATL]

And you will happily take what freebies you can from it. Your type always takes free things.

I'm sorry, you must have mistaken me for someone else. You don't know me or my motivations. What freebies exactly? I love my country. I'm a proud American and southerner. I support same sex marriage, I support flying the confederate battle flag and old glory. I'm not a racist, I don't discriminate against same sex couples, and I work hard for my piece of the American pie. Fact: This nation is divided. Hate, discrimination, the attack on guns and flags, God, love, and those who think they deserve something for nothing are to blame. Fact: This nations security is being compromised by civil unrest, terrorists, and ourselves. We're far from being united.

I am a 12th generation American.

In the 7th, there was some trouble, and, my people came out on the wrong end of it.

Here in the 12th generation, I honor that they did their duty, came home, and started over.

I despise the desecration of the Confederate flag by ignorant assholes, and it is a shame the tasteful display of it in a historical setting has become a political issue because of the actions of an insane person.

Keeps the peoples' minds off their economic woes though.

To deem the confederate flag a symbol of bigoted hate nationwide because of a very tiny few who have used it to that end is shameful. It does little more than honor those few who hate and invalidate the many who don't. This nation is taking a symbol of southern pride and are handing it over to hateful bigots.

Civil unrest? Damn right! And here we have people so oblivious to what's going on they fuel the racial tension unwittingly by demonizing a flag ... Political correctness so unjust ... So terribly misguided! Here's a thought: Quit attacking THINGS and start dealing with the criminally disturbed PEOPLE who use things to meet their hate filled ends.

By failing to call out the white supremacists and racists who were using the confederate flag for their vile agenda you surrendered control of it over to them.

Had you spoken out against them when they first began using it you might have a point.

But you didn't!

So now your silence is seen as condoning racism.

When it comes to southern pride and the flag that represents the fighting spirit of the south, the racist few are given credence over the rest. Yes, slavery was a part of southern history, but then racial profiling, unfair and unequal wages for woman, and a host of other injustices still prevalent in America, yet old glory still waves.

The American flag stands for a century and a half of slavery, two centuries of suppression of women, and two and a half centuries of civil rights violations including genocide, forced relocations, religious persecution, concentration camps, and torture. This does not include the fact it was forged as an act of open lawless rebellion. Fact: The flag isn't the problem folks!

The rebel flag is being demonized because a few hate filled people decided to claim it as their own. It's time to TAKE BACK and reclaim the symbol of this nations southern heritage. If not, the hate filled racists win.
Now, some claim victory because this flag is being taken off shelves and flag poles, but it's an empty, pointless, and shallow victory that had done nothing to address the root of hate crimes. An attack on a symbol of southern pride has taken place instead of dealing with the real issue ... Hate! It's an ego victory and nothing more.

The attack on guns, flags, etc. seems to be the modus operandi of the left all while they neglect to deal with the root of violent crimes. On the right, they attack the love shared between same sex couples all while many boast in following Christ who commanded we love one another. Scripture never speaks against love. It does however, convict us all of something.

People attack things like guns, flags, historic monuments, and even love because they're too chicken shit to deal with the real issue's. Hate is prevalent in our society and so hate is further fueled by racists wolves parading around in sheep's clothing.

Last time I checked, it has only been a few decades since racist bigots hijacked the flag in question. Compare that with centuries of oppression under old glory. Old glory still waves, but for some reason more credence has been given to very few racists than the vast majority of southerner's who fly the confederate battle flag proudly, peacefully, and with honor.

What a bunch of thieves! You unwittingly side with racist bigots.

Not buying what you're shoveling. Sorry.

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[Luddly Neddite]

He has been reported.

WHO died in the south in order to beat slavery and oppression?
DEMOCRATS.

You really are one sick little twitch.

What happened to make you hate the US so much?

And how does someone with a (**cough**cough**) 214 IQ/belt size get to be so damn dumb?

SMH

 

[MarcATL]

People WILL be shooting democrats. Greece could start shooting them any time now.

You and your buds such as Roadrunner are the village idiots. The end is predestined, and it will be so much different than you hope.

75% of the guns owned in America are by Republicans.

Republicans have gone crazy, but even they aren't that crazy.

A literal handful are, have you been observing the thread?

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Sure. the regular crazies are worked themselves into a tizzy. I fear they will actually act on their hatred some day.

I view sites such as this to be an accurate microcosm of the populace , may it be the most passionate one.

Reading this thread I envision some future media report citing this site as one of the locations online that a murdering madman frequented.

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[Katzndogz]

It never truly ended. Divided still to this day due to hate, intolerance, and the pursuit to stifle certain cultures - America is not yet made the leap to one nation, we're far from being united, but are rather at war with our own countrymen. When and how can this end when flags, love, god, and guns are being attacked from all fronts instead of addressing our true ailments ... hate!

Bullshit, but for a few malcontents, we are all Americans.

When our enemies shoot at us, there are no Dash-Americans.

The only way I would raise a rifle today to defend this country, is if the enemy invaded our soil and declared war on Americans.
Aside from that, this country is no longer worth fighting for.

What's an enemy? As bad as democrats are, an invading force couldn't be worse and might be better.

I would NOT defend this country. It. I would not defend same sex marriage, abortionists, black terrorists who make war on innocent people. I would not defend the illegals slithering across the border.

Maybe the invaders need a little help.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Tipsy, you are a coward.

You would just run away and hide.