You wrote "Our Religion is Secular" - "Secular" is not a word to describe Religion. It's one or the other. And your explanation is confusing. How could a man-made law obstruct GOD? That's silly. Are you trying to say "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."?
If you're writing to 10 year olds, you may want another forum; most people here are older than 20 years.
Then you are ignorant of what it means to live in an Islamic state. MANY (I don't have a specific number) of the population of places like, Iraq, or Iran, are Muslim by BIRTH. They are just normal folk - like me, and some are silly, like you. They want a chance to live their lives.
That's funny - because I remember reading, in the Qu'ran 2:256 "There shall be no compulsion in religion.
Silly.
Simply untrue. If there are self-professed Christians out there voting for Clinton or Kerry or Kennedy and the like, I see no reason why Muslims can't vote for folk outside of their religious texts.
AHH! So it's our Government which is secular, NOT our Religion. That's starting to make sense.
Does the letter 't' not work well on your keyboard?
Anyone can take ANY verse out of context to support their point of view - as I did above listing the Qu'ran. If you take certain old-testament records of events, and instructions to SPECIFIC people under SPECIFIC circumstances (Id Est, not everything EVERYBODY in the bible (esp. old TestamenT) is asked by God to do applies to all believers for all time), out of context, things sound grim. But to take things out of context betrays the intent of the author.
Your right about one thing, you sure know how to take something out of context.
"That's funny - because I remember reading, in the Qu'ran 2:256 "There shall be no compulsion in religion."
I have studied the quran along with this verse, the basic translation for this was meant for muslims to not force their religion upon anyone, or freedom of religion. Not, obessive behavior for a religion in relation to government affairs. Do you even go over what you type?
In the first paragraph, you said that you did not understand what I meant when I said secular. I explained it twice, I used it in the wrong place, but meant something very easy to understand. If it is hard for you to connect the dots, then just end the conversation. Secular is not a hard word to understand, even with a mistake.
You also said, how can a man made law obstruct god, well what you just quoted obstructed god. If your goal is to impose god into government, well you cant because a man made law stops you. Thats quite an obstruction. Not to mention, the Iraqi constitution states that it is "the law of the land" (constitution) while saying that islam is "the national religion". So you have a problem here, because they are trying to draft a secular constitution, while extremists clearly dont want this. They feel that they deserve to make the laws given to them directly from god or "ALLAH"
In the second paragraph, you should have said that many are moderate, and many are extreme. That, is not the problem though, the extreme muslims impose their will on that region of the middle east, they take the word jihad (which means warrior of oppression) and they turn it into what we call a "murderer", but they dont see it that way they see it as killing for the justice of whats right, which is OK in the quran (Quran 4:92-93, 6:!51) And as you know in the quran, oppression is worse than murder (Quran 2:217)
So if you have a western civilization coming over, imposing a transitional democracy upon the Iraqis, sure the moderates will love it. Well what about the vast amounts of extreme muslims who take this as a form of oppression? They take that verse from the quran literally, and think its ok to kill US soldiers because its for what they believe is justice.
So, if your saying that Iraq can be a moderate islamic nation ruled under democracy. I dont agree with you, simple as that. It can be done, but not in Iraq. Not in any place where extreme muslims exist, and obviously they still exist because several years and over 400 billion dollars later, we are in the exact same place. And our main enemy is actually FROM iraq, they are IRAQi's themselves. So we have a long way to go (with violence, infastructure, water, power, police, boarder patrol, military, building contractors) before your dream democracy is a reality, if ever.
Right now their recruiting ad is: "we want you to blow up yourself and the Americans who have invaded our country and deprived us of a voice in our own government and many of our friends are allowing this."
