Iran walks out of negotiations in Switzerland

[MostBoringManInTheWorld]

Trump is winning!

WINNING!

 

[eagle1462010]

That could be one reason. But, I think, the reason is the next military step would be to put boots on the ground. The cost in money and lives could be huge. Would it be another Viet Nam, Iraq or Afghanistan. Would the results be worth the cost. What are the odds of meeting your goals?
Trump thought this would be a few week war. The Iranian people, who hate the regime, would rise up and take out the regime. His goals of regime change would be met and the nuclear issue could be solved with the new government.
He was told that the chance of that happening by, just bombing the hell out of them was small. He listened to Netanyahu instead of his own intelligence team.

Not if we go total war

 

[theHawk]

Iran walks out of negotiations in Switzerland .
Not because of Isreal bombing Lebanon.
Not because of anything Vance said or the US negotiating team.
They left in protest at a stream of threats issued by Trump to bomb Iran, and even to kidnap the Iranian negotiating team unless the strait of Hormuz is reopened.

His TACO threats do no good in getting Iran to do what he wants. The thug threats do the opposite. The bully threats, by Trump, may work with a small contractor when negotiating a building project. But not in negotiating peace with a nation. Even a nation as small as Iran who has the majority of their military gone.

TRUMP IS BEYOND AN IDIOT. HE IS A BIG THREAT TO WORLD PEACE. HE IS LIVING IN A DELUSIONAL WORLD CENTEREd ON HIM, NOT THE REALITIES OF THE WORLD.

MAGA - WISE UP - YOU ARE ENABLING A THREAT TO THE USA.

Iranian negotiators suspend talks with US in protest over Trump threats

US president has threatened to bomb Iran and kidnap negotiating team unless strait of Hormuz reopened

www.theguardian.com

The biggest threat to world peace is America and President Trump? Not the batshit crazy Islamic regime that uses terror tactics to hold ships hostage?

 

[ElmerMudd]

The biggest threat to world peace is America and President Trump? Not the batshit crazy Islamic regime that uses terror tactics to hold ships hostage?

The biggest threat to world peace is Donald Trump. The world has always had horrific dangerous governements/regimes. Smart, strong responsible nations know how to deal with them. You get rid of the hornets nest without stirring up the hornet's nest.

Trump is an idiot. He stirred the hornet's nest without a plan.

 

[theHawk]

The biggest threat to world peace is Donald Trump. The world has always had horrific dangerous governements/regimes. Smart, strong responsible nations know how to deal with them. You get rid of the hornets nest without stirring up the hornet's nest.

Trump is an idiot. He stirred the hornet's nest without a plan.

No, Israel stirred the nest.

This conflict is between Israel and Iran. We are dragged into it because we are joined at the hip to Israel, and have been for decades. President Trump is growing weary of them now and hopefully he will distance us from them.

 

[ElmerMudd]

No, Israel stirred the nest.

This conflict is between Israel and Iran. We are dragged into it because we are joined at the hip to Israel, and have been for decades. President Trump is growing weary of them now and hopefully he will distance us from them.

We are there because Trump listened to Netanyahu and not his own intelligence team.

 

[yidnar]

It’s a total shit show. The US has never looked so weak.

Iran will let UN nuke inspectors back in, could buy US crops with billions in unfrozen assets: Vance

Iran will allow United Nations nuclear inspectors into the country following two days of talks in Switzerland, Vice President JD Vance announced Monday — despite Iran putting out mixed messages.…

nypost.com

 

[ElmerMudd]

Iran will let UN nuke inspectors back in, could buy US crops with billions in unfrozen assets: Vance

Iran will allow United Nations nuclear inspectors into the country following two days of talks in Switzerland, Vice President JD Vance announced Monday — despite Iran putting out mixed messages.…

nypost.com

That was being done under the Obama agreement.

 

[yidnar]

That was being done under the Obama agreement.

AI Overview




Yes, Iran did at times block or delay international inspectors from accessing specific facilities and personnel during the Obama administration.

• Military Sites: Iranian leadership, including Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, frequently declared military sites "off-limits" to international inspectors, arguing they were unrelated to nuclear activity.
• Access Delays: Under the 2015 Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), a "managed access" provision allowed Iran to contest inspection requests at undeclared sites, which could result in delays of up to 24 days before access was granted.
• Scientist Interviews: Iran consistently refused to allow International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) inspectors to interview its scientists and military officers regarding the past military dimensions of its nuclear program.

 

[Mac1958]

U.S. issues sweeping Iran oil sanctions waivers, unlocking billions in revenue for Tehran

 

[ElmerMudd]

AI Overview




Yes, Iran did at times block or delay international inspectors from accessing specific facilities and personnel during the Obama administration.

• Military Sites: Iranian leadership, including Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, frequently declared military sites "off-limits" to international inspectors, arguing they were unrelated to nuclear activity.
• Access Delays: Under the 2015 Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), a "managed access" provision allowed Iran to contest inspection requests at undeclared sites, which could result in delays of up to 24 days before access was granted.
• Scientist Interviews: Iran consistently refused to allow International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) inspectors to interview its scientists and military officers regarding the past military dimensions of its nuclear program.

Nice try, nothing you documented is closing the straits to commercial trade.
ChatGPT says
In summary:

• Before 2026: Iran had never completely blocked the Strait of Hormuz to commercial shipping.
• Instead: It repeatedly threatened closure, attacked or seized ships, and temporarily disrupted traffic, but global commerce continued to flow through the strait.

Pathetic attempt to cover up the dumbshit mistakes of your cult leader.

 

[yidnar]

Nice try, nothing you documented is closing the straits to commercial trade.
ChatGPT says
In summary:

• Before 2026: Iran had never completely blocked the Strait of Hormuz to commercial shipping.
• Instead: It repeatedly threatened closure, attacked or seized ships, and temporarily disrupted traffic, but global commerce continued to flow through the strait.

Pathetic attempt to cover up the dumbshit mistakes of your cult leader.

Iran doesn't control the strait ! the US closed the Strait and no Iranian oil got out ! the Strait turned out to be Iran's weakness not their strength ..

AI Overview




Approximately 90% of Iran's oil exports are shipped through the Strait of Hormuz.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Iran doesn't control the strait ! the US closed the Strait and no Iranian oil got out ! the Strait turned out to be Iran's weakness not their strength ..

AI Overview




Approximately 90% of Iran's oil exports are shipped through the Strait of Hormuz.

Educate yourself. You cannot be this stupid. You are not as stupid as you are pathetic. You are pathetic because you will lie, cheat, steal to make Trump look correct in everything he does. You have sold your soul to the devil.
Iran did effectively close or severely restrict the Strait of Hormuz for a period during the war.
Iran's closure of the Strait of Hormuz came first, and the U.S. blockade of Iranian ports came later.
analysts argue that Iran emerged with a stronger deterrent because it proved it could impose significant economic costs on the world.

 

[yidnar]

Educate yourself. You cannot be this stupid. You are not as stupid as you are pathetic. You are pathetic because you will lie, cheat, steal to make Trump look correct in everything he does. You have sold your soul to the devil.
Iran did effectively close or severely restrict the Strait of Hormuz for a period during the war.
Iran's closure of the Strait of Hormuz came first, and the U.S. blockade of Iranian ports came later.
analysts argue that Iran emerged with a stronger deterrent because it proved it could impose significant economic costs on the world.

how much Iranian oil got through the Strait during the US shutdown of the Strait commie ?

 

[ElmerMudd]

how much Iranian oil got through the Strait during the US shutdown of the Strait commie

US was successful in blocking almost all Iranian oil from making it to market. Prior to the the US using a blockade Iran's impediment of normal traffic brought overall commercial transit through the strait to a near-standstill. This trapped millions of barrels of oil The price of oil (gas, diesel, fertilizer) incresed substantially before the US blockade.

If the the US annilated Iran, how could Iran be able to block the strait. And then the strongest nation in the the world uses a blockade to counter a blockade.
The US and the world did not want a blockade. It was crushing the world economy. What did the US do. They did their own blockade resulting in less oil going to market.
It hurt Iran but IT ALSO HURT THE USA AND ALL THE COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD.

It is fricking nuts. And you are nuts if you don't see that. Trump fed you a bunch of bullshit on how we annilated Iran. Wer would not be doing so many things to get them to negotiate if we won,.

Educate yourself. You look stupid on every post. You regurgitate Trump's bullshit.

 

[yidnar]

US was successful in blocking almost all Iranian oil from making it to market. Prior to the the US using a blockade Iran's impediment of normal traffic brought overall commercial transit through the strait to a near-standstill. This trapped millions of barrels of oil The price of oil (gas, diesel, fertilizer) incresed substantially before the US blockade.

If the the US annilated Iran, how could Iran be able to block the strait. And then the strongest nation in the the world uses a blockade to counter a blockade.
The US and the world did not want a blockade. It was crushing the world economy. What did the US do. They did their own blockade resulting in less oil going to market.
It hurt Iran but IT ALSO HURT THE USA AND ALL THE COUNTRIES OF THE WORLD.

It is fricking nuts. And you are nuts if you don't see that. Trump fed you a bunch of bullshit on how we annilated Iran. Wer would not be doing so many things to get them to negotiate if we won,.

Educate yourself. You look stupid on every post. You regurgitate Trump's bullshit.

and just why did oil prices start falling weeks ago , before your islamofascist ally opened the strait eh ? answer .. the US military started letting tankers through while at the same time preventing Iranian oil from getting through ..

• Mid-May through June: The US Central Command transitioned to silently advising and communicating with commercial ships to facilitate exits. By mid-June, US officials reported coordinating with dozens of ships for nighttime transit out of the strait, although actual combat escorts were avoided.

 

[Gary Seven]

There's a reason our strike force remains in the region. (channeling General Patton) Wait till they get a taste of those B52 bombers.

You mean like the backward Vietnamese did and still achieved their objectives and drove us away? Or big bad Russia getting their asses whooped by Afghan goatherders?

 

[ElmerMudd]

and just why did oil prices start falling weeks ago , before your islamofascist ally opened the strait eh ? answer .. the US military started letting tankers through while at the same time preventing Iranian oil from getting through ..

• Mid-May through June: The US Central Command transitioned to silently advising and communicating with commercial ships to facilitate exits. By mid-June, US officials reported coordinating with dozens of ships for nighttime transit out of the strait, although actual combat escorts were avoided.

Your are eating the bullshit daily.
Sure prices are going down BUT
Before the war with Iran began in late February, the average price of regular gas in the U.S. hovered around $2.98 per gallon. Today, the national average is $3.93 per gallon. [1, 2]

They are 30% higher than before Trump bombed Iran. The straits are open now but he is threatening to bomb Iran or reclose the straits unless Iran does exactly what he demands, If, the diot tough gut, Trump does it the gas goes higher.

I am sure there is more bullshit for you to eat being regurgetated by Trump right now. He represents an endless supply of bullshit.