Iran to sign deal

[skye]

You could easily be right. But, I am unconvinced, as nobody has ever gotten anything on Trump, that he actually gave a crap about, even if proven valid and true, and a lot has been proven to the country. He is actually rich enough, he simply does not have to care, so it is just a game, to him. And, since he will not be President again, it is a game, he has no stake in.

Yes, but then there is also the issue of his pride.

Being proven wrong in this nonsensical, useless war.... wouldn't feel too good for a person like him.

 

[White 6]

Yes, but then there is also the issue of his pride.

Being proven wrong in this nonsensical, useless war.... wouldn't feel too good for a person like him.

Granted, but that's about it, and he will still be a legend in his own mind.

 

[yidnar]

Then what was he "defending" us from when he was bombing them yesterday?

the small remnants of their crippled military .. they will always have very limited capabilities ..

 

[Chuz Life]

Bibi cannot clean up anything by himself; he needs the US to fight its wars didn't you know that?

Without the US help Bibi is lost.

That doesn't tell me what you want, expect or how it will play out.

 

[Cellblock2429]

You are the one that brought them into it. Are you having a difficult cognitive moment. Obviously the democrats have nothing to do with subject "Iran to sign deal". There is nobody that even believes dems would started a war, depleting over half our strategic reserves of defensive missiles for the next 5 plus years, losing billions of Dollar$ of aircraft and equipment, to stop a program the President said he stopped with his attack last year, and his Secretary of State saying Iran had not restarted, and his own Director of National Intelligence confirm (based on latest most accurate Intelligence available to the head of all our intelligence networks) that Iran had not enriched any more nuclear material since the time their facilities had been bombed a year ago. Yet, Trump trusted no experts, only doing as Israel wanted, and failed to get any of the nuclear material (apparently buried by the intensive bombing a year prior) and failing to get Iran to it's knees, indeed prompting them to counter attack sites on American bases, sites in US friendly countries, at will, along with shutting down the straits of Hormuz, crippling the international supply of petroleum, causing massive fuel price increases and inflation in this country and around the world. It is as if, the administration did not even wargame possible responses of the country they were attacking, and proceeded blindly with this spur of the moment war, in support of Israel's wishes, yet hardly in American interests.

Last deal I heard (which involved no Dems) was Iran might agree, if we withdraw from blockading Iranian ports and pull out. It does not sound like Trump gets jackshit for his foolish military adventure, we will pay for, for years.

/-----/ "You are the one that brought them into it."
I did not. Time for you to dial back the Scotch shots with beer backs.

 

[Chuz Life]

Bibi cannot clean up anything by himself; he needs the US to fight its wars didn't you know that?

Without the US help Bibi is lost.

Logic doesn't seem to be something you are comfortable with.

For example, you are convinced that "Bibi" coerced, directed, compelled, or otherwise forced Trump to start a war with Iran.

Correct?

That is your view and assertion. Isn't it?

It's clear that's what you think.

But here (in the form of a question) is where your logic fails you.

"Why isn't Bibi forcing Trump to finish the job?"

It is completely illogical to hold that Trump started a war with Iran, because he's under Bibi's control. . . but Bibi can't make him finish the job.

 

[sparky]

The Abraham accord was from Trump's first term .......


Broader Impact and Current Status

Named to honor the shared roots of Judaism, Islam, and Christianity, the Accords represent a significant realignment of regional powers. While the deals have successfully fostered deep economic and military ties (particularly between Israel and the UAE), they have faced geopolitical tests and criticisms—with many Arab nations stating that a genuine, lasting regional peace ultimately requires a sustainable resolution to the Palestinian issue.

~S~

 

[Cellblock2429]

Logic doesn't seem to be something you are comfortable with.

For example, you are convinced that "Bibi" coerced, directed, compelled, or otherwise forced Trump to start a war with Iran.

Correct?

That is your view and assertion. Isn't it?

It's clear that's what you think.

But here (in the form of a question) is where your logic fails you.

"Why isn't Bibi forcing Trump to finish the job?"

It is completely illogical to hold that Trump started a war with Iran, because he's under Bibi's control. . . but Bibi can't make him finish the job.

/—-/ Logic fails the Jew Haters. President Trump is an alpha male who can’t be bribed, threatened or coerced into doing anything he doesn’t want to do.

 

[JoeB131]

Let's imagine Trump were to adopt your mindset and Trump were to pull all of the U.S. troops out of the Middle East and leave Bibi to clean up the issue of Iran trying to get nukes and trying to have total control of the Strait of Hormuz.

Even with Iran now in a damaged (if not obliterrated military condition. . . How do you see that playing out?

Well, I would imagine that the Zionist Entity wouldn't fight their own war, they never want to take on anything tougher than a room of Palestinian Children.

So let's assume we pull out and sensibly redirect all the money we spend on missiles and ships to alternative energy (which would make a lot of sense for a host of reasons, not the least of which is that fossil fuels are destroying the planet).

At some point, Asia and Europe - the people who benefit from Gulf oil would be forced to reach agreements with Iran. Frankly, they aren't the ones who have a beef with them.

The problem with folks like you is that you think that Israel's interests are America's interests. Israel could get pushed into the sea tomorrow and it wouldn't effect American one whit. Might even make our lives over there easier.

 

[candycorn]

/—-/ Logic fails the Jew Haters. President Trump is an alpha male who can’t be bribed, threatened or coerced into doing anything he doesn’t want to do.

He demanded unconditional surrender. If he signs a negotiated deal…isn’t that doing something he didn’t want to do?

 

[JoeB131]

/—-/ Logic fails the Jew Haters. President Trump is an alpha male who can’t be bribed, threatened or coerced into doing anything he doesn’t want to do.

that would be fine if he knew what he wanted to do.

His objective was to depose the Iranian Regime, because the Head Jew convinced him all he had to do was drop a few bombs, and the Iranian people would bring back the Shah's son.

Instead, he killed a lot of people, galvanized the Iranian people behind the regime, and they are now closing off the Gulf and gasoline is at $5.00 a gallon.

Another key point. Trump is very risk-averse. He's not doing what Ronald Reagan did when Iranians pulled this shit in the 1980s. Reagan reflagged the tankers as US Tankers and set warships into the gulf itself to escort them and mix it up with the Iranians. But he did so with the expectation that some ships would be damaged. (And ironically, the only one that did was damaged by the Iraqis.)

 

[Cellblock2429]

that would be fine if he knew what he wanted to do.

His objective was to depose the Iranian Regime, because the Head Jew convinced him all he had to do was drop a few bombs, and the Iranian people would bring back the Shah's son.

Instead, he killed a lot of people, galvanized the Iranian people behind the regime, and they are now closing off the Gulf and gasoline is at $5.00 a gallon.

Another key point. Trump is very risk-averse. He's not doing what Ronald Reagan did when Iranians pulled this shit in the 1980s. Reagan reflagged the tankers as US Tankers and set warships into the gulf itself to escort them and mix it up with the Iranians. But he did so with the expectation that some ships would be damaged. (And ironically, the only one that did was damaged by the Iraqis.)

/—-/ None of that is true. If you take off the blinders you’d see Iranians celebrating in the streets and thanking President Trump.
You can lie, twist and distort all you want but you can’t change the truth.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Well, I would imagine that the Zionist Entity wouldn't fight their own war, they never want to take on anything tougher than a room of Palestinian Children.

So let's assume we pull out and sensibly redirect all the money we spend on missiles and ships to alternative energy (which would make a lot of sense for a host of reasons, not the least of which is that fossil fuels are destroying the planet).

At some point, Asia and Europe - the people who benefit from Gulf oil would be forced to reach agreements with Iran. Frankly, they aren't the ones who have a beef with them.

The problem with folks like you is that you think that Israel's interests are America's interests. Israel could get pushed into the sea tomorrow and it wouldn't effect American one whit. Might even make our lives over there easier.

/—-/ Shut your pie hole, Jew hater.

 

[JoeB131]

None of that is true. If you take off the blinders you’d see Iranians celebrating in the streets and thanking President Trump.
You can lie, twist and distort all you want but you can’t change the truth.

So, um, why haven't they overthrown the regime yet and put the Shah back into power?

Shut your pie hole, Jew hater.

Hey, I have this funny idea that we should put America ahead of Israel.

Not sure why you don't.

 

[georgephillip]

/----/ What failure? Why do you clowns always resort to strawman arguments?

Too much winning

 

[Cellblock2429]

Too much winning

/----/ That's your idea of failure? What a weak argument. You think those maniacs are just going to give up without a fight? How stupid.

 

[task0778]

Iran will not honor any deal that they sign with us and anyone who thinks they will is in serious denial of reality. That said, Trump should unilaterally end this war and issue the following statement: we'll be back in 10 years or so if you resume trying to build nukes and you will allow uninterrupted shipping through the Hormuz Straits or we will attack and destroy your abilities to threaten and blockade the area.

 

[Zincwarrior]

There is no deal.

 

[toobfreak]

And, since he will not be President again, it is a game, he has no stake in.

He will not be president again, as far as you know, right now. But laws have been known to change.

The guy you need to watch out for is Barron Trump. Melania was actually the force which compelled Trump into politics and she has Barron in the warm-up pen right now. Barron is Donald squared.

 

[toobfreak]

Bibi cannot clean up anything by himself; he needs the US to fight its wars didn't you know that?
Without the US help Bibi is lost.

Israel is the size of New Jersey. But they seem to be fighting their wars pretty well so far both against Hezbollah in Lebanon, Hamas in Gaza, and Iran. I have not seen US forces in Israel defending them. Like a hundred other nations, they buy jets and arms and defensive systems from us.