They played Obama for billions in cash with no intent to follow it, hence why nobody actually signed itIf there was no deal why did the Iranians agree to follow its precepts?
Iran never signed Obama’s deal.
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My post explained exactly why anyone responding to this OP is a moron. The OP read something on a right wing nut site and ran here to post it. He has never researched a position in his life and he is old as ****. Feel free to respond to the facts in my post.
Sure. Trump withdrew from what then?
Under Obama there was no nuclear program and no war. Under Trump 1.0 we got a nuclear close Iran and under Trump 2.0 we got war.... sure... all Obama's fault. You have to be stupid. There cant be any other explanation.
There was a nuclear program and we were engaged in numerous wars under Obama. What the f are you talking about?
No, Iran has not been this far from having nukes in 45 years thanks to Trump destroying their nuke facilities
There are a lot of people on tape who have said things in the past and do things differently today. Just a couple of them. Marriage agenda. Illegals agenda. The effect is a lot worse than this currently.
Iran's entire nuclear holdings fit inside an SUV. They could be anywhere. Iran was in compliance until Trump withdrew from the agreement and instituted sanctions with zero ability of Iran to deal with it. Under Obama they had incentive. Under Trump they have no incentive other than to fight. If you like war and introducing incentive for Iran to use nuclear bombs Trumps actions worked just fine. If you liked Iran with incentives to stay non-nuclear so they can trade, then Trump's actions suck.
Trump's own team dispute his assessment of Iran's nuclear capabilities. Trump is Bush 2.0 making shit up to warmonger. Just like he makes shit up about Ukraine starting the war. I am not sure how you function daily without some general knowledge and general analytical skill.
Nothing.
Under Obama they had an incentive to continue their nuclear program, to the tune of 1.9 billion Obama gave them
Iran signed no agreement was able to unilaterally add things..even Dems in Congress called it horrible for America
No trumps team never disputed anything, more lies by the biggest propagandist for the the leading state sponsor of terror
There is no war, trump did what he said he’d do for years if Iran didn’t stop. Iran thought they were dealing with dembots still and f around and found out
I assume you read the quote of Trump withdrawing and using that term. How do you connect reality to your fantasy? He doesnt say "there is not an agreement" he says there is an agreement and he is withdrawing. How are you able to function my friend? Even Nostra knows he fucked up.
“I am announcing today that the United States will withdraw from the Iran nuclear deal. In a few moments, I will sign a presidential memorandum to begin reinstating U.S. nuclear sanctions on the Iranian regime. We will be instituting the highest level of economic sanction. Any nation that helps Iran in its quest for nuclear weapons could also be strongly sanctioned by the United States.”
— Donald Trump
SeaMajor7
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Remember when Congress ratified that Treaty?
Yeah, me neither.
Yeah, me neither.
Which is why it was easily revoked by Trump. Congress passed the Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act of 2015, which allowed for congressional review of the agreement but did not require a vote of approval.Remember when Congress ratified that Treaty?
Yeah, me neither.
I did he was calling it a deal because that’s what narrative was, but Iran never actually signed it and their was no ratification by Congress
It was no binding on anyone, hence why Iran completely ignored it after they got Obama to give them 1.9 billion in cash
SeaMajor7
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For an agreement to be binding it’s go to be treaty, Congress had to approve it. They didn’t, for many reason but it should also be noted that Iran never even signed it
It was a worthless piece of paper to begin wth, Iran played Obama, played on the egos of Kerry and company, got 1.9 billion dollars to continue to fund their nuke program and sponsor terror
And now, four years after they were able to interfere in our election and get another Dem in the oval, we are dealing with an even more empowered Iran forcing Trump to act and defend our interest and allies
No shit sherlock. That is why it was easy for Trump to end. Trump ended the deal that was being adhered to. We will see if we all are better off at war than we were not at war. Awesome.
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Trump said there was a deal. Do you believe Trump or not
I believe E. Jean Carroll
But there was no deal, there were promises and stated goals, but Iran wasn't following them. That stopped even appearing to after they got the 1.7 billion in cash from Obama.
President Donald J. Trump is Ending United States Participation in an Unacceptable Iran Deal – The White House
IRAN’S BAD FAITH AND BAD ACTIONS: Iran negotiated the JCPOA in bad faith, and the deal gave the Iranian regime too much in exchange for too little.
- Intelligence recently released by Israel provides compelling details about Iran’s past secret efforts to develop nuclear weapons, which it lied about for years.
- The intelligence further demonstrates that the Iranian regime did not come clean about its nuclear weapons activity, and that it entered the JCPOA in bad faith.
- The JCPOA failed to deal with the threat of Iran’s missile program and did not include a strong enough mechanism for inspections and verification.
- The JCPOA foolishly gave the Iranian regime a windfall of cash and access to the international financial system for trade and investment.
- Instead of using the money from the JCPOA to support the Iranian people at home, the regime has instead funded a military buildup and continues to fund its terrorist proxies, such as Hizballah and Hamas.
- Iran violated the laws and regulations of European countries to counterfeit the currency of its neighbor, Yemen, to support the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) Quds Force’s destabilizing activities.
- President Trump will work to assemble a broad coalition of nations to deny Iran all paths to a nuclear weapon and to counter the totality of the regime’s malign activities.
- Nations must work together to halt the Iranian regime’s destabilizing drive for regional hegemony.
- In Syria, the Iranian regime supports the Assad regime and is complicit in Assad’s atrocities against the Syrian people.
- In Yemen, the regime has escalated the conflict and used the Houthis as a proxy to attack other nations.
- In Iraq, Iran’s IRGC sponsors Shia militant groups and terrorists.
- In Lebanon, the Iranian regime enables Hizballah to play a highly destabilizing role and to build an arsenal of weapons that threatens the region.
- The Administration’s actions are directed against the malign behavior of the Iranian regime, not against the Iranian people, who are the regime’s longest-suffering victims.
- Nations must work together to halt the Iranian regime’s destabilizing drive for regional hegemony.
- President Trump is making clear that, in addition to never developing a nuclear weapon, the Iranian regime must:
- Never have an ICBM, cease developing any nuclear-capable missiles, and stop proliferating ballistic missiles to others.
- Cease its support for terrorists, extremists, and regional proxies, such as Hizballah, Hamas, the Taliban, and al-Qa’ida.
- End its publicly declared quest to destroy Israel.
- Stop its threats to freedom of navigation, especially in the Persian Gulf and Red Sea.
- Cease escalating the Yemen conflict and destabilizing the region by proliferating weapons to the Houthis.
- End its cyber-attacks against the United States and our allies, including Israel.
- Stop its grievous human rights abuses, shown most recently in the regime’s crackdown against widespread protests by Iranian citizens.
- Stop its unjust detention of foreigners, including United States citizens.
The Trump intelligence organization said exactly the opposite. He called them wrong and uninformed.But there was no deal, there were promises and stated goals, but Iran wasn't following them. That stopped even appearing to after they got the 1.7 billion in cash from Obama.
President Donald J. Trump is Ending United States Participation in an Unacceptable Iran Deal – The White House
trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov
IRAN’S BAD FAITH AND BAD ACTIONS: Iran negotiated the JCPOA in bad faith, and the deal gave the Iranian regime too much in exchange for too little.
ADDRESSING IRANIAN AGGRESSION: President Trump is committed to ensuring Iran has no possible path to a nuclear weapon and is addressing the threats posed by the regime’s malign activities.
- Intelligence recently released by Israel provides compelling details about Iran’s past secret efforts to develop nuclear weapons, which it lied about for years.
- The intelligence further demonstrates that the Iranian regime did not come clean about its nuclear weapons activity, and that it entered the JCPOA in bad faith.
- The JCPOA failed to deal with the threat of Iran’s missile program and did not include a strong enough mechanism for inspections and verification.
- The JCPOA foolishly gave the Iranian regime a windfall of cash and access to the international financial system for trade and investment.
- Instead of using the money from the JCPOA to support the Iranian people at home, the regime has instead funded a military buildup and continues to fund its terrorist proxies, such as Hizballah and Hamas.
- Iran violated the laws and regulations of European countries to counterfeit the currency of its neighbor, Yemen, to support the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) Quds Force’s destabilizing activities.
- President Trump will work to assemble a broad coalition of nations to deny Iran all paths to a nuclear weapon and to counter the totality of the regime’s malign activities.
- Nations must work together to halt the Iranian regime’s destabilizing drive for regional hegemony.
- In Syria, the Iranian regime supports the Assad regime and is complicit in Assad’s atrocities against the Syrian people.
- In Yemen, the regime has escalated the conflict and used the Houthis as a proxy to attack other nations.
- In Iraq, Iran’s IRGC sponsors Shia militant groups and terrorists.
- In Lebanon, the Iranian regime enables Hizballah to play a highly destabilizing role and to build an arsenal of weapons that threatens the region.
- The Administration’s actions are directed against the malign behavior of the Iranian regime, not against the Iranian people, who are the regime’s longest-suffering victims.
- President Trump is making clear that, in addition to never developing a nuclear weapon, the Iranian regime must:
- Never have an ICBM, cease developing any nuclear-capable missiles, and stop proliferating ballistic missiles to others.
- Cease its support for terrorists, extremists, and regional proxies, such as Hizballah, Hamas, the Taliban, and al-Qa’ida.
- End its publicly declared quest to destroy Israel.
- Stop its threats to freedom of navigation, especially in the Persian Gulf and Red Sea.
- Cease escalating the Yemen conflict and destabilizing the region by proliferating weapons to the Houthis.
- End its cyber-attacks against the United States and our allies, including Israel.
- Stop its grievous human rights abuses, shown most recently in the regime’s crackdown against widespread protests by Iranian citizens.
- Stop its unjust detention of foreigners, including United States citizens.
They said no such thing today or back in 2018.
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