Internal Feud Between FBI and DOJ on how to proceed with Clinton Probe

He merely updated Congress on new findings. What the Democrats and media do with it is their own affair.

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuure that's all he did. Not for one moment did he ever consider that a national election was days away and tossing red meat to the Republicans would create a shit storm. If you believe that, you are even dumber than the way below average right winger.

The situation Clinton finds herself in is her own fault.

That I have to agree with.

Yes, Clinton made a mistake. A mistake she admitted and will never make again. Comey created a firestorm and did so intentionally. He did not make a mistake, he, according to the DOJ, violated the agency policy by going public. His behavior in this matter is at best misfeasance, and if he signed off on a policy he violated, malfeasance.

What policy? The DOJ has yet to produce said official policy except via hearsay.

Here are the latest press releases by the FBI. You may, and I was, able to read them and conclude the comments made by Comey are NOT related to the typical, normal release to the press of the ones posted on this link:

Press Releases — FBI

Of course a biased person who has prejudged the issue may not understand or will reject my conclusion. The rebuttal will be in most cases an ad hominem or an emoticon or a funny rating of this post.
 
In other words, the FBI has found emails and they haven't any idea of what their relevance is, but Dir. Comey decided to share that more emails had been found on a computer owned and used by someone connected with Mrs. Clinton.

He merely updated Congress on new findings. What the Democrats and media do with it is their own affair.

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuure that's all he did. Not for one moment did he ever consider that a national election was days away and tossing red meat to the Republicans would create a shit storm. If you believe that, you are even dumber than the way below average right winger.

The situation Clinton finds herself in is her own fault.

That I have to agree with.

Yes, Clinton made a mistake. A mistake she admitted and will never make again. Comey created a firestorm and did so intentionally. He did not make a mistake, he, according to the DOJ, violated the agency policy by going public. His behavior in this matter is at best misfeasance, and if he signed off on a policy he violated, malfeasance.

Nixon could have said, "I made a mistake and I won't do it again." The electorate then was about morals and still would have encouraged impeachment.

Hillary has broken so many laws that she hasn't admitted to. She should be toast...we shall see. Where are our morals?
 
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuure that's all he did. Not for one moment did he ever consider that a national election was days away and tossing red meat to the Republicans would create a shit storm. If you believe that, you are even dumber than the way below average right winger.

The situation Clinton finds herself in is her own fault.

That I have to agree with.

Yes, Clinton made a mistake. A mistake she admitted and will never make again. Comey created a firestorm and did so intentionally. He did not make a mistake, he, according to the DOJ, violated the agency policy by going public. His behavior in this matter is at best misfeasance, and if he signed off on a policy he violated, malfeasance.

What policy? The DOJ has yet to produce said official policy except via hearsay.

Here are the latest press releases by the FBI. You may, and I was, able to read them and conclude the comments made by Comey are NOT related to the typical, normal release to the press of the ones posted on this link:

Press Releases — FBI

Of course a biased person who has prejudged the issue may not understand or will reject my conclusion. The rebuttal will be in most cases an ad hominem or an emoticon or a funny rating of this post.

As if I'm going to read through 18,264 items.

Pick a few that support your position, and we'll go from there.

Again, I have yet to see any official policy or law that precludes Comey from informing Congress as to a new development in the case.

We have in Clinton the first presidential candidate under active FBI investigation. I don't care much about tradition or unwritten rules.
 
He merely updated Congress on new findings. What the Democrats and media do with it is their own affair.

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuure that's all he did. Not for one moment did he ever consider that a national election was days away and tossing red meat to the Republicans would create a shit storm. If you believe that, you are even dumber than the way below average right winger.

The situation Clinton finds herself in is her own fault.

That I have to agree with.

Yes, Clinton made a mistake. A mistake she admitted and will never make again. Comey created a firestorm and did so intentionally. He did not make a mistake, he, according to the DOJ, violated the agency policy by going public. His behavior in this matter is at best misfeasance, and if he signed off on a policy he violated, malfeasance.
"Yes, Clinton made a mistake. A mistake she admitted and will never make again."
What a stooge.
Dozens of politicians are in prison today for pay to play, and that's where she will go down.

Who exactly are the "dozens of politicians...in prison today for pay to play?"

I know of at one person who made illegal donations to a candidate's campaign and who misrepresented that donation as being something other than a donation to a politician's campaign. That person got caught and paid a fine for their deed. The individual in question admitted to buying influence via contributions to politicians. I'm also aware of a politician who's improperly solicited money and then spent that money improperly.

Click on the links to find out who the individuals are.
 
He merely updated Congress on new findings. What the Democrats and media do with it is their own affair.

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuure that's all he did. Not for one moment did he ever consider that a national election was days away and tossing red meat to the Republicans would create a shit storm. If you believe that, you are even dumber than the way below average right winger.

The situation Clinton finds herself in is her own fault.

That I have to agree with.

Yes, Clinton made a mistake. A mistake she admitted and will never make again. Comey created a firestorm and did so intentionally. He did not make a mistake, he, according to the DOJ, violated the agency policy by going public. His behavior in this matter is at best misfeasance, and if he signed off on a policy he violated, malfeasance.

What policy? The DOJ has yet to produce said official policy except via hearsay.

The relevant DOJ policy is probably this one:

1-7.530 - Disclosure of Information Concerning Ongoing Investigations
  1. Except as provided inn subparagraph B. of this section, components and personnel of the Department of Justice shall not respond to questions about the existence of an ongoing investigation or comment on its nature or progress, including such things as the issuance or seving [sic] of a subpoena, prior to the public filing of the document.
  2. In matters that have already received substantial publicity, or about which the community needs to be reassured that the appropriate law enforcement agency is investigating the incident, or where release of information is necessary to protect the public interest, safety, or welfare, comments about or confirmation of an ongoing investigation may need to be made. In these unusual circumstances, the involved investigative agency will consult and obtain approval from the United States Attorney or Department Division handling the matter prior to disseminating any information to the media.
 
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuure that's all he did. Not for one moment did he ever consider that a national election was days away and tossing red meat to the Republicans would create a shit storm. If you believe that, you are even dumber than the way below average right winger.

The situation Clinton finds herself in is her own fault.

That I have to agree with.

Yes, Clinton made a mistake. A mistake she admitted and will never make again. Comey created a firestorm and did so intentionally. He did not make a mistake, he, according to the DOJ, violated the agency policy by going public. His behavior in this matter is at best misfeasance, and if he signed off on a policy he violated, malfeasance.

What policy? The DOJ has yet to produce said official policy except via hearsay.

The relevant DOJ policy is probably this one:

1-7.530 - Disclosure of Information Concerning Ongoing Investigations
  1. Except as provided inn subparagraph B. of this section, components and personnel of the Department of Justice shall not respond to questions about the existence of an ongoing investigation or comment on its nature or progress, including such things as the issuance or seving [sic] of a subpoena, prior to the public filing of the document.
  2. In matters that have already received substantial publicity, or about which the community needs to be reassured that the appropriate law enforcement agency is investigating the incident, or where release of information is necessary to protect the public interest, safety, or welfare, comments about or confirmation of an ongoing investigation may need to be made. In these unusual circumstances, the involved investigative agency will consult and obtain approval from the United States Attorney or Department Division handling the matter prior to disseminating any information to the media.
While under oath at the Congressional Hearing, he was asked if new information would come up, would he reopen the case. He said, if it was relevant, yes. He was under that oath to tell the Congress that new material did, indeed come up.

He did not disseminate information to the media. The congressmen did initially. He has had no press conference giving media information.
 
1, Investigators found 650,000 emails on a laptop used by former Rep. Anthony Weiner and his estranged wife Huma Abedin, a close Clinton aide, and underlying metadata suggests thousands of those messages could have been sent to or from the private server that Mrs. Clinton used while she was secretary of state, according to people familiar with the matter.

2. Officials had to await a court order to begin reviewing the emails—which they received over the weekend, according to a person familiar with the matter—because they were uncovered in an unrelated probe of Mr. Weiner.

3. The latest development began in early October when New York-based FBI officials notified Andrew McCabe, the bureau’s second-in-command, that while investigating Mr. Weiner for possibly sending sexually charged messages to a teenage minor, they had recovered a laptop

4. In their initial review of the laptop, the metadata showed many messages, apparently in the thousands, that were either sent to or from the private email server at Mrs. Clinton’s home that had been the focus of so much investigative effort for the FBI. Senior FBI officials decided to let the Weiner investigators proceed with a closer examination of the metadata on the computer, and report back to them.

5. Mr. McCabe then instructed the email investigators to talk to the Weiner investigators and see whether the laptop’s contents could be relevant to the Clinton email probe, these people said. After the investigators spoke, the agents agreed it was potentially relevant.

6. The probe of the foundation began more than a year ago to determine whether financial crimes or influence peddling occurred related to the charity.

7. Mr. McCabe in particular was caught between an increasingly acrimonious fight for control between the Justice Department and FBI agents pursuing the Clinton Foundation case.

8. Mr. McCabe’s wife, Jill McCabe, received $467,500 in campaign funds in late 2015 from the political-action committee of Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe, a longtime ally of the Clintons and, until he was elected governor in November 2013, a Clinton Foundation board member.

9. Mr. McCabe ascended from the No. 3 position at the FBI to the deputy director post. When he assumed that role, officials say, he started overseeing the probe into Mrs. Clinton’s use of a private email server for government work when she was secretary of state.

10. Los Angeles agents had picked up information about the Clinton Foundation from an unrelated public-corruption case and had issued some subpoenas for bank records related to the foundation, these people said.

11. field office was probing financial relationships involving Mr. McAuliffe before he became a Clinton Foundation board member, these people said. Mr. McAuliffe has denied any wrongdoing,

12. In February, FBI officials made a presentation to the Justice Department, according to these people. By all accounts, the meeting didn’t go well.
the Justice Dept. officials were stern, icy and dismissive of the case

13. the Justice Department told the FBI at the meeting they wouldn’t authorize more aggressive investigative techniques, such as subpoenas, formal witness interviews, or grand-jury activity. But the FBI officials believed they were well within their authority to pursue the leads and methods already under way, these people said.

14. , a senior Justice Department official called Mr. McCabe to voice his displeasure at finding that New York FBI agents were still openly pursuing the Clinton Foundation probe during the election season. Mr. McCabe said agents still had the authority to pursue the issue as long as they didn’t use overt methods requiring Justice Department approvals

15. The Justice Department official was “very pissed off,” according to one person close to Mr. McCabe, and pressed him to explain why the FBI was still chasing a matter the department considered dormant

16. Others further down the FBI chain of command, however, said agents were given a much starker instruction on the case: “Stand down.” When agents questioned why they weren’t allowed to take more aggressive steps, they said they were told the order had come from the deputy director—Mr. McCabe.

FBI in Internal Feud Over Hillary Clinton Probe

Very messy. Just think of the plane meeting with Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton. Now the McAuliffe, a Clinton Foundation Board member - Mr. McCabe - his wife Dr. McCabe $467,600 donation for her seat in Congress

The DOJ had better back off. It's looking bad.

The absurdly titled DOJ is an openly criminal organization operating at the behest of our 3rd world dictator. The ONLY thing we can expect from the DOJ under Lynch is corruption, which is all they have offered under her or her predecessor. The FBI must act independently if laws are tp be enforced. Lynch and her thugs exist to further the goals of the party and the dictator. With the release two weeks back of proof of intent by Don Hillary and her gang to violate federal law by deleting 30,000 + emails under subpoena. The excuse Comey used to end the investigation rested on the claim that there was no intent. Since it is PROVEN that there was indeed intent, Don Hillary and her Capos should be arrested immediately. If Comey has even a shred of integrity, he MUST arrest Hillary.
 
He merely updated Congress on new findings. What the Democrats and media do with it is their own affair.

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuure that's all he did. Not for one moment did he ever consider that a national election was days away and tossing red meat to the Republicans would create a shit storm. If you believe that, you are even dumber than the way below average right winger.

The situation Clinton finds herself in is her own fault.

That I have to agree with.

Yes, Clinton made a mistake. A mistake she admitted and will never make again. Comey created a firestorm and did so intentionally. He did not make a mistake, he, according to the DOJ, violated the agency policy by going public. His behavior in this matter is at best misfeasance, and if he signed off on a policy he violated, malfeasance.

Nixon could have said, "I made a mistake and I won't do it again." The electorate then was about morals and still would have encouraged impeachment.

Hillary has broken so many laws that she hasn't admitted to. She should be toast...we shall see. Where are our morals?

Watergate is not even remotely a valid comparison.
  • June 17, 1972 - Five men are arrested after breaking into Democratic National Committee headquarters in the Watergate complex in Washington, DC. White House press secretary Ron Ziegler describes the incident as a "third-rate burglary."
  • October 10, 1972 - The Washington Post publishes a story by Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward, stating that the FBI believes the Watergate break in was done by aides to President Nixon.
  • November 7, 1972 - President Richard Nixon is elected to a second term in office, defeating Democratic candidate George McGovern.
  • January 30, 1973 - Former FBI agent G. Gordon Liddy and former CIA employee James McCord, security director of the Committee to Re-elect the President (CREEP), are found guilty of conspiracy, burglary and bugging DNC headquarters. E. Howard Hunt, a former CIA operative, and four others involved ended their trials by pleading guilty.
  • April 30, 1973 - Four of President Nixon's aides resign as the Watergate scandal grows. They are: John Dean, White House counsel; H. R. Haldeman, chief of staff; John D. Ehrlichman, assistant for domestic affairs; and Attorney General Richard G. Kleindienst.
  • May 17, 1973 - The Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities opens hearings into the Watergate incident, chaired by Sen. Sam Ervin (D, NC). The hearings are televised nationally.
  • May 19, 1973 - Archibald Cox is appointed special prosecutor in the Watergate investigation.
  • June 25-29, 1973 - Former White House counsel John Dean testifies before the Senate Select Committee about the White House, and Nixon's, involvement in the Watergate break-in and cover-up.
  • July 16, 1973 - During the Watergate hearings, former aide Alexander Butterfield reveals that President Nixon has been secretly recording all of his White House conversations since 1971.
  • July 23, 1973 - In a letter to Sam Ervin, Nixon explains his reason for not turning over the presidential tapes as "the special nature of tape recordings of private conversations is such that these principles (of executive privilege) apply with even greater force to tapes of private presidential conversations than to presidential papers."
  • July 26, 1973 - President Nixon responds to two subpoenas issued by the Ervin committee, by saying he will not comply with requests for copies of White House recordings. He also refuses a similar request from special prosecutor Archibald Cox.
  • August 29, 1973 - Federal Judge John Sirica orders President Nixon to turn over the tapes to him to be privately examined. Nixon does not comply and appeals all subpoenas and orders with regards to surrendering the tapes.
  • October 19, 1973 - The appeal is denied and the president is ordered to turn over the tapes to Mr. Cox. Nixon offers to give a summary of the White House conversations personally edited by him and verified by Sen. John Stennis (D, MS) instead. The summary offer is rejected and Mr. Cox is ordered to drop the case. Cox refuses.
  • October 20, 1973 - In what becomes known as the "Saturday Night Massacre," President Nixon orders the firing of Archibald Cox as special prosecutor. Rather than comply, Attorney General Elliot Richardson and Deputy Attorney General William Ruckelshaus resign. Cox is eventually fired by Solicitor General Robert Bork.
  • November 1, 1973 - Leon Jaworski is named the special prosecutor.
  • November 21, 1973 - The White House reveals that one of the subpoenaed recordings, dated June 20, 1972, has an 18-minute gap. President Nixon's secretary Rose Mary Woods says she is responsible for accidentally erasing the tape.
  • April 30, 1974 - The White House releases edited transcripts, more than 1,200 pages, of the presidential tapes.
  • July 24, 1974 - The Supreme Court unanimously rules that President Nixon must immediately turn over the original recordings of over 64 conversations to special prosecutor Leon Jaworski.
  • July 27, 1974 - The House Judiciary Committee approves three articles of impeachment against President Nixon. The recommendation is then sent to the full House of Representatives for a vote.
  • July 31, 1974 - The remaining tapes, having been turned over to Jaworski, reveal a conversation from June 23, 1972 that proves the president's knowledge of the cover-up from the beginning.
  • August 8, 1974 - President Richard Nixon addresses the nation on TV, "I have never been a quitter. To leave office before my term is completed is abhorrent to every instinct in my body. But as president, I must put the interest of America first. America needs a full-time president and a full-time Congress, particularly at this time with problems we face at home and abroad. To continue to fight through the months ahead for my personal vindication would almost totally absorb the time and attention of both the president and the Congress in a period when our entire focus should be on the great issues of peace abroad and prosperity without inflation at home. Therefore, I shall resign the presidency effective at noon tomorrow."
  • August 9, 1974 - Nixon signs a letter of resignation and Vice President Gerald Ford becomes president.
  • September 8, 1974 - President Ford pardons former President Nixon.
  • January 1, 1975 - Former Attorney General John Mitchell, former aide John Ehrlichmann and former Chief of Staff H.R. Haldeman are found guilty of obstruction of justice.
  • 1977 - In a series of interviews with David Frost, Nixon defends his actions during the Watergate investigation, "I'm saying when the president does it, that means it's not illegal."

What are some key differences between Watergate and "email-gate"?
  • There was clear proof of what did and did not happen, who did it, and who knew about it. That proof came in the form of tapes, the testimony of high ranking Administration officials, and trial proceedings at which the men who committed the burglary were found guilty of their crimes.
  • Nixon deliberately did as much as he could at every turn to obstruct discovery of his involvement in and awareness of the break-in activities.
  • Nixon had the man charged with investigating the matter fired.
  • The FBI did not openly remark about its investigation into the Watergate burglary while the investigation was ongoing.
  • Everything about Watergate was politically motivated to gain an edge over the Democrats.
 
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuure that's all he did. Not for one moment did he ever consider that a national election was days away and tossing red meat to the Republicans would create a shit storm. If you believe that, you are even dumber than the way below average right winger.

The situation Clinton finds herself in is her own fault.

That I have to agree with.

Yes, Clinton made a mistake. A mistake she admitted and will never make again. Comey created a firestorm and did so intentionally. He did not make a mistake, he, according to the DOJ, violated the agency policy by going public. His behavior in this matter is at best misfeasance, and if he signed off on a policy he violated, malfeasance.

Nixon could have said, "I made a mistake and I won't do it again." The electorate then was about morals and still would have encouraged impeachment.

Hillary has broken so many laws that she hasn't admitted to. She should be toast...we shall see. Where are our morals?

Watergate is not even remotely a valid comparison.
  • June 17, 1972 - Five men are arrested after breaking into Democratic National Committee headquarters in the Watergate complex in Washington, DC. White House press secretary Ron Ziegler describes the incident as a "third-rate burglary."
  • October 10, 1972 - The Washington Post publishes a story by Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward, stating that the FBI believes the Watergate break in was done by aides to President Nixon.
  • November 7, 1972 - President Richard Nixon is elected to a second term in office, defeating Democratic candidate George McGovern.
  • January 30, 1973 - Former FBI agent G. Gordon Liddy and former CIA employee James McCord, security director of the Committee to Re-elect the President (CREEP), are found guilty of conspiracy, burglary and bugging DNC headquarters. E. Howard Hunt, a former CIA operative, and four others involved ended their trials by pleading guilty.
  • April 30, 1973 - Four of President Nixon's aides resign as the Watergate scandal grows. They are: John Dean, White House counsel; H. R. Haldeman, chief of staff; John D. Ehrlichman, assistant for domestic affairs; and Attorney General Richard G. Kleindienst.
  • May 17, 1973 - The Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities opens hearings into the Watergate incident, chaired by Sen. Sam Ervin (D, NC). The hearings are televised nationally.
  • May 19, 1973 - Archibald Cox is appointed special prosecutor in the Watergate investigation.
  • June 25-29, 1973 - Former White House counsel John Dean testifies before the Senate Select Committee about the White House, and Nixon's, involvement in the Watergate break-in and cover-up.
  • July 16, 1973 - During the Watergate hearings, former aide Alexander Butterfield reveals that President Nixon has been secretly recording all of his White House conversations since 1971.
  • July 23, 1973 - In a letter to Sam Ervin, Nixon explains his reason for not turning over the presidential tapes as "the special nature of tape recordings of private conversations is such that these principles (of executive privilege) apply with even greater force to tapes of private presidential conversations than to presidential papers."
  • July 26, 1973 - President Nixon responds to two subpoenas issued by the Ervin committee, by saying he will not comply with requests for copies of White House recordings. He also refuses a similar request from special prosecutor Archibald Cox.
  • August 29, 1973 - Federal Judge John Sirica orders President Nixon to turn over the tapes to him to be privately examined. Nixon does not comply and appeals all subpoenas and orders with regards to surrendering the tapes.
  • October 19, 1973 - The appeal is denied and the president is ordered to turn over the tapes to Mr. Cox. Nixon offers to give a summary of the White House conversations personally edited by him and verified by Sen. John Stennis (D, MS) instead. The summary offer is rejected and Mr. Cox is ordered to drop the case. Cox refuses.
  • October 20, 1973 - In what becomes known as the "Saturday Night Massacre," President Nixon orders the firing of Archibald Cox as special prosecutor. Rather than comply, Attorney General Elliot Richardson and Deputy Attorney General William Ruckelshaus resign. Cox is eventually fired by Solicitor General Robert Bork.
  • November 1, 1973 - Leon Jaworski is named the special prosecutor.
  • November 21, 1973 - The White House reveals that one of the subpoenaed recordings, dated June 20, 1972, has an 18-minute gap. President Nixon's secretary Rose Mary Woods says she is responsible for accidentally erasing the tape.
  • April 30, 1974 - The White House releases edited transcripts, more than 1,200 pages, of the presidential tapes.
  • July 24, 1974 - The Supreme Court unanimously rules that President Nixon must immediately turn over the original recordings of over 64 conversations to special prosecutor Leon Jaworski.
  • July 27, 1974 - The House Judiciary Committee approves three articles of impeachment against President Nixon. The recommendation is then sent to the full House of Representatives for a vote.
  • July 31, 1974 - The remaining tapes, having been turned over to Jaworski, reveal a conversation from June 23, 1972 that proves the president's knowledge of the cover-up from the beginning.
  • August 8, 1974 - President Richard Nixon addresses the nation on TV, "I have never been a quitter. To leave office before my term is completed is abhorrent to every instinct in my body. But as president, I must put the interest of America first. America needs a full-time president and a full-time Congress, particularly at this time with problems we face at home and abroad. To continue to fight through the months ahead for my personal vindication would almost totally absorb the time and attention of both the president and the Congress in a period when our entire focus should be on the great issues of peace abroad and prosperity without inflation at home. Therefore, I shall resign the presidency effective at noon tomorrow."
  • August 9, 1974 - Nixon signs a letter of resignation and Vice President Gerald Ford becomes president.
  • September 8, 1974 - President Ford pardons former President Nixon.
  • January 1, 1975 - Former Attorney General John Mitchell, former aide John Ehrlichmann and former Chief of Staff H.R. Haldeman are found guilty of obstruction of justice.
  • 1977 - In a series of interviews with David Frost, Nixon defends his actions during the Watergate investigation, "I'm saying when the president does it, that means it's not illegal."

What are some key differences between Watergate and "email-gate"?
  • There was clear proof of what did and did not happen, who did it, and who knew about it. That proof came in the form of tapes, the testimony of high ranking Administration officials, and trial proceedings at which the men who committed the burglary were found guilty of their crimes.
  • Nixon deliberately did as much as he could at every turn to obstruct discovery of his involvement in and awareness of the break-in activities.
  • Nixon had the man charged with investigating the matter fired.
  • The FBI did not openly remark about its investigation into the Watergate burglary while the investigation was ongoing.
  • Everything about Watergate was politically motivated to gain an edge over the Democrats.
Which ones of the bullet points put America's secrets at risk? Which ones amounted to treason?
 
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Yes, Clinton made a mistake.

Yes, Don Hillary acted in a deliberately criminal manned.

A mistake she admitted and will never make again. Comey created a firestorm and did so intentionally. He did not make a mistake, he, according to the DOJ, violated the agency policy by going public. His behavior in this matter is at best misfeasance, and if he signed off on a policy he violated, malfeasance.

The openly corrupt DOJ cares only about covering up the crimes of the Clinton gang. Comey should by all rights frog march Don Hillary out of her next campaign stop in handcuffs.

If YOU did what she did, you'd be behind bars. I realize you support different laws based on status within the party, but your status is too low for you to be above the law, as Mafia Don Hillary is.
 
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuure that's all he did. Not for one moment did he ever consider that a national election was days away and tossing red meat to the Republicans would create a shit storm. If you believe that, you are even dumber than the way below average right winger.

The situation Clinton finds herself in is her own fault.

That I have to agree with.

Yes, Clinton made a mistake. A mistake she admitted and will never make again. Comey created a firestorm and did so intentionally. He did not make a mistake, he, according to the DOJ, violated the agency policy by going public. His behavior in this matter is at best misfeasance, and if he signed off on a policy he violated, malfeasance.

Nixon could have said, "I made a mistake and I won't do it again." The electorate then was about morals and still would have encouraged impeachment.

Hillary has broken so many laws that she hasn't admitted to. She should be toast...we shall see. Where are our morals?

Watergate is not even remotely a valid comparison.
  • June 17, 1972 - Five men are arrested after breaking into Democratic National Committee headquarters in the Watergate complex in Washington, DC. White House press secretary Ron Ziegler describes the incident as a "third-rate burglary."
  • October 10, 1972 - The Washington Post publishes a story by Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward, stating that the FBI believes the Watergate break in was done by aides to President Nixon.
  • November 7, 1972 - President Richard Nixon is elected to a second term in office, defeating Democratic candidate George McGovern.
  • January 30, 1973 - Former FBI agent G. Gordon Liddy and former CIA employee James McCord, security director of the Committee to Re-elect the President (CREEP), are found guilty of conspiracy, burglary and bugging DNC headquarters. E. Howard Hunt, a former CIA operative, and four others involved ended their trials by pleading guilty.
  • April 30, 1973 - Four of President Nixon's aides resign as the Watergate scandal grows. They are: John Dean, White House counsel; H. R. Haldeman, chief of staff; John D. Ehrlichman, assistant for domestic affairs; and Attorney General Richard G. Kleindienst.
  • May 17, 1973 - The Senate Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities opens hearings into the Watergate incident, chaired by Sen. Sam Ervin (D, NC). The hearings are televised nationally.
  • May 19, 1973 - Archibald Cox is appointed special prosecutor in the Watergate investigation.
  • June 25-29, 1973 - Former White House counsel John Dean testifies before the Senate Select Committee about the White House, and Nixon's, involvement in the Watergate break-in and cover-up.
  • July 16, 1973 - During the Watergate hearings, former aide Alexander Butterfield reveals that President Nixon has been secretly recording all of his White House conversations since 1971.
  • July 23, 1973 - In a letter to Sam Ervin, Nixon explains his reason for not turning over the presidential tapes as "the special nature of tape recordings of private conversations is such that these principles (of executive privilege) apply with even greater force to tapes of private presidential conversations than to presidential papers."
  • July 26, 1973 - President Nixon responds to two subpoenas issued by the Ervin committee, by saying he will not comply with requests for copies of White House recordings. He also refuses a similar request from special prosecutor Archibald Cox.
  • August 29, 1973 - Federal Judge John Sirica orders President Nixon to turn over the tapes to him to be privately examined. Nixon does not comply and appeals all subpoenas and orders with regards to surrendering the tapes.
  • October 19, 1973 - The appeal is denied and the president is ordered to turn over the tapes to Mr. Cox. Nixon offers to give a summary of the White House conversations personally edited by him and verified by Sen. John Stennis (D, MS) instead. The summary offer is rejected and Mr. Cox is ordered to drop the case. Cox refuses.
  • October 20, 1973 - In what becomes known as the "Saturday Night Massacre," President Nixon orders the firing of Archibald Cox as special prosecutor. Rather than comply, Attorney General Elliot Richardson and Deputy Attorney General William Ruckelshaus resign. Cox is eventually fired by Solicitor General Robert Bork.
  • November 1, 1973 - Leon Jaworski is named the special prosecutor.
  • November 21, 1973 - The White House reveals that one of the subpoenaed recordings, dated June 20, 1972, has an 18-minute gap. President Nixon's secretary Rose Mary Woods says she is responsible for accidentally erasing the tape.
  • April 30, 1974 - The White House releases edited transcripts, more than 1,200 pages, of the presidential tapes.
  • July 24, 1974 - The Supreme Court unanimously rules that President Nixon must immediately turn over the original recordings of over 64 conversations to special prosecutor Leon Jaworski.
  • July 27, 1974 - The House Judiciary Committee approves three articles of impeachment against President Nixon. The recommendation is then sent to the full House of Representatives for a vote.
  • July 31, 1974 - The remaining tapes, having been turned over to Jaworski, reveal a conversation from June 23, 1972 that proves the president's knowledge of the cover-up from the beginning.
  • August 8, 1974 - President Richard Nixon addresses the nation on TV, "I have never been a quitter. To leave office before my term is completed is abhorrent to every instinct in my body. But as president, I must put the interest of America first. America needs a full-time president and a full-time Congress, particularly at this time with problems we face at home and abroad. To continue to fight through the months ahead for my personal vindication would almost totally absorb the time and attention of both the president and the Congress in a period when our entire focus should be on the great issues of peace abroad and prosperity without inflation at home. Therefore, I shall resign the presidency effective at noon tomorrow."
  • August 9, 1974 - Nixon signs a letter of resignation and Vice President Gerald Ford becomes president.
  • September 8, 1974 - President Ford pardons former President Nixon.
  • January 1, 1975 - Former Attorney General John Mitchell, former aide John Ehrlichmann and former Chief of Staff H.R. Haldeman are found guilty of obstruction of justice.
  • 1977 - In a series of interviews with David Frost, Nixon defends his actions during the Watergate investigation, "I'm saying when the president does it, that means it's not illegal."

What are some key differences between Watergate and "email-gate"?
  • There was clear proof of what did and did not happen, who did it, and who knew about it. That proof came in the form of tapes, the testimony of high ranking Administration officials, and trial proceedings at which the men who committed the burglary were found guilty of their crimes.
  • Nixon deliberately did as much as he could at every turn to obstruct discovery of his involvement in and awareness of the break-in activities.
  • Nixon had the man charged with investigating the matter fired.
  • The FBI did not openly remark about its investigation into the Watergate burglary while the investigation was ongoing.
  • Everything about Watergate was politically motivated to gain an edge over the Democrats.

The DIFFERENCE is that Nixon was held accountable, by both the press and law enforcement. Clinton enjoys direct coverups by the press and particularly the corrupt DOJ. Cute how Lynch held a secret meeting with Bill Clinton - but you don't care, party above all for you.
 
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He could have said that, but in the FBI and DOJ's opinions, there was very clear evidence about what was done, what Nixon's role in it was, what Nixon's intentions were. That simply is not so regarding Mrs. Clinton and her emails.

There is FAR more evidence against Hillary Clinton, the issue here is that you hold party above all. You support corruption provided it furthers the goals of your party.
 
Nixon could have said, "I made a mistake and I won't do it again."

He could have said that, but in the FBI and DOJ's opinions, there was very clear evidence about what was done, what Nixon's role in it was, what Nixon's intentions were. That simply is not s o regarding Mrs. Clinton and her emails.
Nixon's original comment was "Who was the asshole who ordered it?" He may have just lied cause he knew he was on tape, but at that point, he may have gotten away with "my aides were overly enthusiastic. I mean how crazy would I have to be to think I needed to cheat to beat McGovern"
 
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He could have said that, but in the FBI and DOJ's opinions, there was very clear evidence about what was done, what Nixon's role in it was, what Nixon's intentions were. That simply is not so regarding Mrs. Clinton and her emails.

There is FAR more evidence against Hillary Clinton, the issue here is that you hold party above all. You support corruption provided it furthers the goals of your party.
LOL
 
He merely updated Congress on new findings. What the Democrats and media do with it is their own affair.

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuure that's all he did. Not for one moment did he ever consider that a national election was days away and tossing red meat to the Republicans would create a shit storm. If you believe that, you are even dumber than the way below average right winger.

The situation Clinton finds herself in is her own fault.

That I have to agree with.

Yes, Clinton made a mistake. A mistake she admitted and will never make again. Comey created a firestorm and did so intentionally. He did not make a mistake, he, according to the DOJ, violated the agency policy by going public. His behavior in this matter is at best misfeasance, and if he signed off on a policy he violated, malfeasance.

Nixon could have said, "I made a mistake and I won't do it again." The electorate then was about morals and still would have encouraged impeachment.

Hillary has broken so many laws that she hasn't admitted to. She should be toast...we shall see. Where are our morals?

Nixon said, "I am not a crook"

"Hillary has broken so many laws that she hasn't admitted to"? It is easy to make an allegation, and easy to defame a public person.

Let me make it hard for you:
  • Post the crime she committed, where, when and how
  • Post the date of the crime, and the date it was discovered
  • Post the victim of the crime, and their injury or loss
  • Post the specific code (penal, business and profession, health and safety, etc.
  • Post the nature of the crime (violent or not)
  • Post if the crime is a misdemeanor, a wobbler or a felony.
If you do not have all of this information and do not post the evidence that each element is true and correct, I am forced to call you a liar.
 
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuure that's all he did. Not for one moment did he ever consider that a national election was days away and tossing red meat to the Republicans would create a shit storm. If you believe that, you are even dumber than the way below average right winger.

The situation Clinton finds herself in is her own fault.

That I have to agree with.

Yes, Clinton made a mistake. A mistake she admitted and will never make again. Comey created a firestorm and did so intentionally. He did not make a mistake, he, according to the DOJ, violated the agency policy by going public. His behavior in this matter is at best misfeasance, and if he signed off on a policy he violated, malfeasance.

What policy? The DOJ has yet to produce said official policy except via hearsay.

The relevant DOJ policy is probably this one:

1-7.530 - Disclosure of Information Concerning Ongoing Investigations
  1. Except as provided inn subparagraph B. of this section, components and personnel of the Department of Justice shall not respond to questions about the existence of an ongoing investigation or comment on its nature or progress, including such things as the issuance or seving [sic] of a subpoena, prior to the public filing of the document.
  2. In matters that have already received substantial publicity, or about which the community needs to be reassured that the appropriate law enforcement agency is investigating the incident, or where release of information is necessary to protect the public interest, safety, or welfare, comments about or confirmation of an ongoing investigation may need to be made. In these unusual circumstances, the involved investigative agency will consult and obtain approval from the United States Attorney or Department Division handling the matter prior to disseminating any information to the media.

He responded to no recent questions concerning this matter. He simply sent a letter to update Congress.

He disseminated no information. He updated the pertinent Congressional committee that there was a new development in the case. He did not define said element, nor did he contact the media about it.
 
The situation Clinton finds herself in is her own fault.

That I have to agree with.

Yes, Clinton made a mistake. A mistake she admitted and will never make again. Comey created a firestorm and did so intentionally. He did not make a mistake, he, according to the DOJ, violated the agency policy by going public. His behavior in this matter is at best misfeasance, and if he signed off on a policy he violated, malfeasance.

What policy? The DOJ has yet to produce said official policy except via hearsay.

The relevant DOJ policy is probably this one:

1-7.530 - Disclosure of Information Concerning Ongoing Investigations
  1. Except as provided inn subparagraph B. of this section, components and personnel of the Department of Justice shall not respond to questions about the existence of an ongoing investigation or comment on its nature or progress, including such things as the issuance or seving [sic] of a subpoena, prior to the public filing of the document.
  2. In matters that have already received substantial publicity, or about which the community needs to be reassured that the appropriate law enforcement agency is investigating the incident, or where release of information is necessary to protect the public interest, safety, or welfare, comments about or confirmation of an ongoing investigation may need to be made. In these unusual circumstances, the involved investigative agency will consult and obtain approval from the United States Attorney or Department Division handling the matter prior to disseminating any information to the media.
While under oath at the Congressional Hearing, he was asked if new information would come up, would he reopen the case. He said, if it was relevant, yes. He was under that oath to tell the Congress that new material did, indeed come up.

He did not disseminate information to the media. The congressmen did initially. He has had no press conference giving media information.

Red:
Insofar as neither he nor his staff have seen the emails or any of their content, only metadata, how the hell would he or they know if the information is relevant? The WSJ reports that what the FBI have come upon is metadata, not the email content itself; thus we must accept that the FBI's personnel had not, as of the WSJ article's publication, read the emails. Individuals having information that contradicts what the WSJ has shared should probably contact the WSJ and share it so as to correct the record. Trust me, the WSJ would be most appreciative of that.

Blue:
While someone may have inaccurately written that Dir. Comey shared the information with the media, the DOJ policy is clear. Without approval, he's not allowed by DOJ policy to say anything to anyone, media, Congress or otherwise:
  • personnel of the Department of Justice shall not respond to questions about the existence of an ongoing investigation or comment on its nature or progress
The following letter constitutes Dir. Comey having commented on the nature of the investigation to individuals who are not party to the investigation via the letter below.


When Dir. Comey made his remarks to Congress, he promised to do something he then lacked and currently still does lack the authorization to do of his own volition and without approval. The DOJ's policy requires obtaining approval as follows:
  • "the involved investigative agency will consult and obtain approval from the United States Attorney or Department Division handling the matter"
Insofar as "the buck" at the DOJ does not stop with the FBI Director, Comey should have obtained authorization from the DOJ U.S. Attorney, as noted in the DOJ policy.
 

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