Internal Feud Between FBI and DOJ on how to proceed with Clinton Probe

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1, Investigators found 650,000 emails on a laptop used by former Rep. Anthony Weiner and his estranged wife Huma Abedin, a close Clinton aide, and underlying metadata suggests thousands of those messages could have been sent to or from the private server that Mrs. Clinton used while she was secretary of state, according to people familiar with the matter.

2. Officials had to await a court order to begin reviewing the emails—which they received over the weekend, according to a person familiar with the matter—because they were uncovered in an unrelated probe of Mr. Weiner.

3. The latest development began in early October when New York-based FBI officials notified Andrew McCabe, the bureau’s second-in-command, that while investigating Mr. Weiner for possibly sending sexually charged messages to a teenage minor, they had recovered a laptop

4. In their initial review of the laptop, the metadata showed many messages, apparently in the thousands, that were either sent to or from the private email server at Mrs. Clinton’s home that had been the focus of so much investigative effort for the FBI. Senior FBI officials decided to let the Weiner investigators proceed with a closer examination of the metadata on the computer, and report back to them.

5. Mr. McCabe then instructed the email investigators to talk to the Weiner investigators and see whether the laptop’s contents could be relevant to the Clinton email probe, these people said. After the investigators spoke, the agents agreed it was potentially relevant.

6. The probe of the foundation began more than a year ago to determine whether financial crimes or influence peddling occurred related to the charity.

7. Mr. McCabe in particular was caught between an increasingly acrimonious fight for control between the Justice Department and FBI agents pursuing the Clinton Foundation case.

8. Mr. McCabe’s wife, Jill McCabe, received $467,500 in campaign funds in late 2015 from the political-action committee of Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe, a longtime ally of the Clintons and, until he was elected governor in November 2013, a Clinton Foundation board member.

9. Mr. McCabe ascended from the No. 3 position at the FBI to the deputy director post. When he assumed that role, officials say, he started overseeing the probe into Mrs. Clinton’s use of a private email server for government work when she was secretary of state.

10. Los Angeles agents had picked up information about the Clinton Foundation from an unrelated public-corruption case and had issued some subpoenas for bank records related to the foundation, these people said.

11. field office was probing financial relationships involving Mr. McAuliffe before he became a Clinton Foundation board member, these people said. Mr. McAuliffe has denied any wrongdoing,

12. In February, FBI officials made a presentation to the Justice Department, according to these people. By all accounts, the meeting didn’t go well.
the Justice Dept. officials were stern, icy and dismissive of the case

13. the Justice Department told the FBI at the meeting they wouldn’t authorize more aggressive investigative techniques, such as subpoenas, formal witness interviews, or grand-jury activity. But the FBI officials believed they were well within their authority to pursue the leads and methods already under way, these people said.

14. , a senior Justice Department official called Mr. McCabe to voice his displeasure at finding that New York FBI agents were still openly pursuing the Clinton Foundation probe during the election season. Mr. McCabe said agents still had the authority to pursue the issue as long as they didn’t use overt methods requiring Justice Department approvals

15. The Justice Department official was “very pissed off,” according to one person close to Mr. McCabe, and pressed him to explain why the FBI was still chasing a matter the department considered dormant

16. Others further down the FBI chain of command, however, said agents were given a much starker instruction on the case: “Stand down.” When agents questioned why they weren’t allowed to take more aggressive steps, they said they were told the order had come from the deputy director—Mr. McCabe.
FBI in Internal Feud Over Hillary Clinton Probe

Very messy. Just think of the plane meeting with Loretta Lynch and Bill Clinton. Now the McAuliffe, a Clinton Foundation Board member - Mr. McCabe - his wife Dr. McCabe $467,600 donation for her seat in Congress

The DOJ had better back off. It's looking bad.
 

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Interesting that you "objectively" (? -- NOT) left this bit out:

"It will take weeks, at a minimum, to determine whether those messages are work-related from the time Ms. Abedin served with Mrs. Clinton at the State Department; how many are duplicates of emails already reviewed by the FBI; and whether they include either classified information or important new evidence in the Clinton email probe."
 

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Interesting that you "objectively" (? -- NOT) left this bit out:

"It will take weeks, at a minimum, to determine whether those messages are work-related from the time Ms. Abedin served with Mrs. Clinton at the State Department; how many are duplicates of emails already reviewed by the FBI; and whether they include either classified information or important new evidence in the Clinton email probe."

In other words, the FBI has found emails and they haven't any idea of what their relevance is, but Dir. Comey decided to share that more emails had been found on a computer owned and used by someone connected with Mrs. Clinton.
 
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Interesting that you "objectively" (? -- NOT) left this bit out:

"It will take weeks, at a minimum, to determine whether those messages are work-related from the time Ms. Abedin served with Mrs. Clinton at the State Department; how many are duplicates of emails already reviewed by the FBI; and whether they include either classified information or important new evidence in the Clinton email probe."

In other words, the FBI has found emails and they haven't any idea of what their relevance is, but Dir. Comey decided to share that more emails had been found on a computer owned and used by someone connected with Mrs. Clinton.
If you look at the article, it was massive. I picked out the most important facts to present. Thank you for adding another.
 

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Interesting that you "objectively" (? -- NOT) left this bit out:

"It will take weeks, at a minimum, to determine whether those messages are work-related from the time Ms. Abedin served with Mrs. Clinton at the State Department; how many are duplicates of emails already reviewed by the FBI; and whether they include either classified information or important new evidence in the Clinton email probe."

In other words, the FBI has found emails and they haven't any idea of what their relevance is, but Dir. Comey decided to share that more emails had been found on a computer owned and used by someone connected with Mrs. Clinton.
He merely updated Congress on new findings. What the Democrats and media do with it is their own affair.
 

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Interesting that you "objectively" (? -- NOT) left this bit out:

"It will take weeks, at a minimum, to determine whether those messages are work-related from the time Ms. Abedin served with Mrs. Clinton at the State Department; how many are duplicates of emails already reviewed by the FBI; and whether they include either classified information or important new evidence in the Clinton email probe."

In other words, the FBI has found emails and they haven't any idea of what their relevance is, but Dir. Comey decided to share that more emails had been found on a computer owned and used by someone connected with Mrs. Clinton.

Lmao~ translation they found e mails that hillary deleted with bleach bit
 
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Interesting that you "objectively" (? -- NOT) left this bit out:

"It will take weeks, at a minimum, to determine whether those messages are work-related from the time Ms. Abedin served with Mrs. Clinton at the State Department; how many are duplicates of emails already reviewed by the FBI; and whether they include either classified information or important new evidence in the Clinton email probe."

In other words, the FBI has found emails and they haven't any idea of what their relevance is, but Dir. Comey decided to share that more emails had been found on a computer owned and used by someone connected with Mrs. Clinton.

Lmao~ translation they found e mails that hillary deleted with bleach bit
Could be.
 

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Another informative quote from the WSJ article:

In their initial review of the laptop, the metadata showed many messages, apparently in the thousands, that were either sent to or from the private email server at Mrs. Clinton’s home that had been the focus of so much investigative effort for the FBI. Senior FBI officials decided to let the Weiner investigators proceed with a closer examination of the metadata on the computer, and report back to them.
"Metadata." Okay.....Metadata is not the emails themselves, it's data about data, or in other words, data about the emails, but not the emails themselves.


And then there's this:

"The new investigative effort, disclosed by FBI Director James Comey on Friday, shows a bureau at times in sharp internal disagreement over matters related to the Clintons, and how to handle those matters fairly and carefully in the middle of a national election campaign....New details show that senior law-enforcement officials repeatedly voiced skepticism of the strength of the evidence in a bureau investigation of the Clinton Foundation....It isn’t unusual for field agents to favor a more aggressive approach than supervisors and prosecutors think is merited.​

Typical....the folks in the lower rungs of an organization invariably know better than the folks higher up the "food chain" who have more experience and who have a better view of the entire set of circumstances and considerations. Everyone at the top of the "totem pole" knows about this because they weren't born at the top; they rose through the ranks to get to the top. When the senior principals were low and mid level staffers, they were privy to the same exact types of dissent we are hearing about in the news now. All that's different is that in yesteryear, we, the general public, didn't get to hear about the infighting.
 

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Interesting that you "objectively" (? -- NOT) left this bit out:

"It will take weeks, at a minimum, to determine whether those messages are work-related from the time Ms. Abedin served with Mrs. Clinton at the State Department; how many are duplicates of emails already reviewed by the FBI; and whether they include either classified information or important new evidence in the Clinton email probe."

In other words, the FBI has found emails and they haven't any idea of what their relevance is, but Dir. Comey decided to share that more emails had been found on a computer owned and used by someone connected with Mrs. Clinton.
If you look at the article, it was massive. I picked out the most important facts to present. Thank you for adding another.
You're welcome.

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I don't know about "massive," but it's longer than a tweet or typical FB post.
 
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Another informative quote from the WSJ article:

In their initial review of the laptop, the metadata showed many messages, apparently in the thousands, that were either sent to or from the private email server at Mrs. Clinton’s home that had been the focus of so much investigative effort for the FBI. Senior FBI officials decided to let the Weiner investigators proceed with a closer examination of the metadata on the computer, and report back to them.
"Metadata." Okay.....Metadata is not the emails themselves, it's data about data, or in other words, data about the emails, but not the emails themselves.


And then there's this:

"The new investigative effort, disclosed by FBI Director James Comey on Friday, shows a bureau at times in sharp internal disagreement over matters related to the Clintons, and how to handle those matters fairly and carefully in the middle of a national election campaign....New details show that senior law-enforcement officials repeatedly voiced skepticism of the strength of the evidence in a bureau investigation of the Clinton Foundation....It isn’t unusual for field agents to favor a more aggressive approach than supervisors and prosecutors think is merited.​

Typical....the folks in the lower rungs of an organization invariably know better than the folks higher up the "food chain" who have more experience and who have a better view of the entire set of circumstances and considerations. Everyone at the top of the "totem pole" knows about this because they weren't born at the top; they rose through the ranks to get to the top. When the senior principals were low and mid level staffers, they were privy to the same exact types of dissent we are hearing about in the news now. All that's different is that in yesteryear, we, the general public, didn't get to hear about the infighting.
senior law-enforcement officials repeatedly voiced skepticism of the strength of the evidence in a bureau investigation of the Clinton Foundation..
Those "senior Members could be from the DOJ (L.L.)
 

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Criminal and criminally incompetent.

Prison!
 

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Interesting that you "objectively" (? -- NOT) left this bit out:

"It will take weeks, at a minimum, to determine whether those messages are work-related from the time Ms. Abedin served with Mrs. Clinton at the State Department; how many are duplicates of emails already reviewed by the FBI; and whether they include either classified information or important new evidence in the Clinton email probe."

In other words, the FBI has found emails and they haven't any idea of what their relevance is, but Dir. Comey decided to share that more emails had been found on a computer owned and used by someone connected with Mrs. Clinton.
He merely updated Congress on new findings. What the Democrats and media do with it is their own affair.
And what exactly has the FBI as of today's news cycle found and examined? Go on, psychic, tell us and then tell the FBI what it has found. I'm sure they could use your help figuring it out seeing as they've said they don't know what the content be of what they've learned.
 

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Interesting that you "objectively" (? -- NOT) left this bit out:

"It will take weeks, at a minimum, to determine whether those messages are work-related from the time Ms. Abedin served with Mrs. Clinton at the State Department; how many are duplicates of emails already reviewed by the FBI; and whether they include either classified information or important new evidence in the Clinton email probe."

In other words, the FBI has found emails and they haven't any idea of what their relevance is, but Dir. Comey decided to share that more emails had been found on a computer owned and used by someone connected with Mrs. Clinton.
He merely updated Congress on new findings. What the Democrats and media do with it is their own affair.
And what exactly has the FBI as of today's news cycle found and examined? Go on, psychic, tell us and then tell the FBI what it has found. I'm sure they could use your help figuring it out seeing as they've said they don't know what the content be of what they've learned.
Apparently, nunya.
 

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Interesting that you "objectively" (? -- NOT) left this bit out:

"It will take weeks, at a minimum, to determine whether those messages are work-related from the time Ms. Abedin served with Mrs. Clinton at the State Department; how many are duplicates of emails already reviewed by the FBI; and whether they include either classified information or important new evidence in the Clinton email probe."

In other words, the FBI has found emails and they haven't any idea of what their relevance is, but Dir. Comey decided to share that more emails had been found on a computer owned and used by someone connected with Mrs. Clinton.
He merely updated Congress on new findings. What the Democrats and media do with it is their own affair.
And what exactly has the FBI as of today's news cycle found and examined? Go on, psychic, tell us and then tell the FBI what it has found. I'm sure they could use your help figuring it out seeing as they've said they don't know what the content be of what they've learned.
Apparently, nunya.
Nunya's too...and that's the point....Nobody yet knows what exactly the FBI has found.
 

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Interesting that you "objectively" (? -- NOT) left this bit out:

"It will take weeks, at a minimum, to determine whether those messages are work-related from the time Ms. Abedin served with Mrs. Clinton at the State Department; how many are duplicates of emails already reviewed by the FBI; and whether they include either classified information or important new evidence in the Clinton email probe."

In other words, the FBI has found emails and they haven't any idea of what their relevance is, but Dir. Comey decided to share that more emails had been found on a computer owned and used by someone connected with Mrs. Clinton.
He merely updated Congress on new findings. What the Democrats and media do with it is their own affair.
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuure that's all he did. Not for one moment did he ever consider that a national election was days away and tossing red meat to the Republicans would create a shit storm. If you believe that, you are even dumber than the way below average right winger.
 

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Interesting that you "objectively" (? -- NOT) left this bit out:

"It will take weeks, at a minimum, to determine whether those messages are work-related from the time Ms. Abedin served with Mrs. Clinton at the State Department; how many are duplicates of emails already reviewed by the FBI; and whether they include either classified information or important new evidence in the Clinton email probe."

In other words, the FBI has found emails and they haven't any idea of what their relevance is, but Dir. Comey decided to share that more emails had been found on a computer owned and used by someone connected with Mrs. Clinton.
He merely updated Congress on new findings. What the Democrats and media do with it is their own affair.
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuure that's all he did. Not for one moment did he ever consider that a national election was days away and tossing red meat to the Republicans would create a shit storm. If you believe that, you are even dumber than the way below average right winger.
The situation Clinton finds herself in is her own fault.
 

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Interesting that you "objectively" (? -- NOT) left this bit out:

"It will take weeks, at a minimum, to determine whether those messages are work-related from the time Ms. Abedin served with Mrs. Clinton at the State Department; how many are duplicates of emails already reviewed by the FBI; and whether they include either classified information or important new evidence in the Clinton email probe."

In other words, the FBI has found emails and they haven't any idea of what their relevance is, but Dir. Comey decided to share that more emails had been found on a computer owned and used by someone connected with Mrs. Clinton.
He merely updated Congress on new findings. What the Democrats and media do with it is their own affair.
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuure that's all he did. Not for one moment did he ever consider that a national election was days away and tossing red meat to the Republicans would create a shit storm. If you believe that, you are even dumber than the way below average right winger.
Yes, the "sh*t storm" and "red meat" bits I accept. I don't have any evidence to show that creating the acrimony was Dir. Comey's intent, but it's hard for me to imagine he wasn't well aware that sending the letter to Congress and then disclosing that he had done and disclosing the letter's content would give Trump a "leg up" as it were. I don't think the man is that politically naive.

As for whether he or anyone else at the FBI has actually read the "new" emails, well, they are constrained by the law in that regard, so they may very well have not. It's my understanding that only today did Mr. Weiner attest to being willing to of his own volition allow the FBI access to the emails. Per the WSJ, all the FBI have seen is metadata, not actual emails.
 

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Interesting that you "objectively" (? -- NOT) left this bit out:

"It will take weeks, at a minimum, to determine whether those messages are work-related from the time Ms. Abedin served with Mrs. Clinton at the State Department; how many are duplicates of emails already reviewed by the FBI; and whether they include either classified information or important new evidence in the Clinton email probe."

In other words, the FBI has found emails and they haven't any idea of what their relevance is, but Dir. Comey decided to share that more emails had been found on a computer owned and used by someone connected with Mrs. Clinton.
He merely updated Congress on new findings. What the Democrats and media do with it is their own affair.
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuure that's all he did. Not for one moment did he ever consider that a national election was days away and tossing red meat to the Republicans would create a shit storm. If you believe that, you are even dumber than the way below average right winger.
The situation Clinton finds herself in is her own fault.
That I have to agree with.
 

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Interesting that you "objectively" (? -- NOT) left this bit out:

"It will take weeks, at a minimum, to determine whether those messages are work-related from the time Ms. Abedin served with Mrs. Clinton at the State Department; how many are duplicates of emails already reviewed by the FBI; and whether they include either classified information or important new evidence in the Clinton email probe."

In other words, the FBI has found emails and they haven't any idea of what their relevance is, but Dir. Comey decided to share that more emails had been found on a computer owned and used by someone connected with Mrs. Clinton.

Lmao~ translation they found e mails that hillary deleted with bleach bit
LMAO!

Interpretation and implication: I can rely upon you to without fail find something inane and unsubstantiated to say.
 

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Interesting that you "objectively" (? -- NOT) left this bit out:

"It will take weeks, at a minimum, to determine whether those messages are work-related from the time Ms. Abedin served with Mrs. Clinton at the State Department; how many are duplicates of emails already reviewed by the FBI; and whether they include either classified information or important new evidence in the Clinton email probe."

In other words, the FBI has found emails and they haven't any idea of what their relevance is, but Dir. Comey decided to share that more emails had been found on a computer owned and used by someone connected with Mrs. Clinton.

Lmao~ translation they found e mails that hillary deleted with bleach bit
LMAO!

Interpretation and implication: I can rely upon you to without fail find something inane and unsubstantiated to say.

I always can rely on you for missing the obvious



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