Interior Department Releases List of Monuments Under Review, Announces First-Ever Public Comment

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Executive Order 13792 of April 26, 2017 (82 FR 20429, May 1, 2017), directs the Secretary of the Interior to review certain National Monuments designated or expanded under the Antiquities Act of 1906, 54 U.S.C. 320301-320303 (Act). Specifically, Section 2 of the Executive Order directs the Secretary to conduct a review of all Presidential designations or expansions of designations under the Antiquities Act made since January 1, 1996, where the designation covers more than 100,000 acres, where the designation after expansion covers more than 100,000 acres, or where the Secretary determines that the designation or expansion was made without adequate public outreach and coordination with relevant stakeholders, to determine whether each designation or expansion conforms to the policy set forth in section 1 of the order. Among other provisions, Section 1 states that designations should reflect the Act’s “requirements and original objectives” and “appropriately balance the protection of landmarks, structures, and objects against the appropriate use of Federal lands and the effects on surrounding lands and communities.” 82 FR 20429 (May 1, 2017).

In making the requisite determinations, the Secretary is directed to consider:

(i) the requirements and original objectives of the Act, including the Act’s requirement that reservations of land not exceed “the smallest area compatible with the proper care and management of the objects to be protected”;
(ii) whether designated lands are appropriately classified under the Act as “historic landmarks, historic and prehistoric structures, [or] other objects of historic or scientific interest”;
(iii) the effects of a designation on the available uses of designated Federal lands, including consideration of the multiple-use policy of section 102(a)(7) of the Federal Land Policy and Management Act (43 U.S.C. 1701(a)(7)), as well as the effects on the available uses of Federal lands beyond the monument boundaries;
(iv) the effects of a designation on the use and enjoyment of non-Federal lands within or beyond monument boundaries;
(v) concerns of State, tribal, and local governments affected by a designation, including the economic development and fiscal condition of affected States, tribes, and localities;
(vi) the availability of Federal resources to properly manage designated areas; and
(vii) such other factors as the Secretary deems appropriate.
82 FR 20429-20430 (May 1, 2017).

The National Monuments being initially reviewed are listed in the following tables:

NATIONAL MONUMENTS BEING INITIALLY REVIEWED PURSUANT TO CRITERIA IN EXECUTIVE ORDER 13792
Interior Department Releases List of Monuments Under Review, Announces First-Ever Formal Public Comment Period for Antiquities Act Monuments

I was listening to news on Bears Ears yesterday:
Interior Secretary Zinke, Utah delegation meet to discuss next steps on Bears Ears

The Tribes are not happy.
Tribes upset over review of Bears Ears monument designation
Interior has yet to meet with Bears Ears tribal leaders

They better tread very carefully here.
 
The weakness in the EO is "where the Secretary determines that the designation or expansion was made without adequate public outreach and coordination with relevant stakeholders." The Antiquities Act of 1906 requires no such "coordination." Law suits will be entered into the system nothing that the President had no legislative or executive authority to extend the or add to the language of the Act. This will tie the EO for years until Congress or SCOTUS forbids him from pursuing his action.
 
Really? We need to review our national monuments? Would not leaving "well enough" alone not be a more effective way to minimize government expenditures? How does one, as POTUS, articulate as a key goal cutting back on unnecessary government expenditures and then issue an EO of that sort? What CEO would have such an austerity/cost-efficiency focus and also issue such an instruction? Is the concept of sunk costs really that lost on Trump?
 
Can we get rid of the whole thing.......way we are going lame ass Presidents will steal all the open space for govt
 
Trump is not about cutting costs if he can give Big Business a chance to get at federal lands, yes.
 
Can we get rid of the whole thing.......way we are going lame ass Presidents will steal all the open space for govt
We the People own it, Moths. So Presidents who create monuments and parks and wetlands and what nots are not stealing it.
 
Can we get rid of the whole thing.......way we are going lame ass Presidents will steal all the open space for govt
We the People own it, Moths. So Presidents who create monuments and parks and wetlands and what nots are not stealing it.
You have a perverted sense of ownership............once Uncle Sam gets his claws in we own nothing.........
 
Executive Order 13792 of April 26, 2017 (82 FR 20429, May 1, 2017), directs the Secretary of the Interior to review certain National Monuments designated or expanded under the Antiquities Act of 1906, 54 U.S.C. 320301-320303 (Act). Specifically, Section 2 of the Executive Order directs the Secretary to conduct a review of all Presidential designations or expansions of designations under the Antiquities Act made since January 1, 1996, where the designation covers more than 100,000 acres, where the designation after expansion covers more than 100,000 acres, or where the Secretary determines that the designation or expansion was made without adequate public outreach and coordination with relevant stakeholders, to determine whether each designation or expansion conforms to the policy set forth in section 1 of the order. Among other provisions, Section 1 states that designations should reflect the Act’s “requirements and original objectives” and “appropriately balance the protection of landmarks, structures, and objects against the appropriate use of Federal lands and the effects on surrounding lands and communities.” 82 FR 20429 (May 1, 2017).

In making the requisite determinations, the Secretary is directed to consider:

(i) the requirements and original objectives of the Act, including the Act’s requirement that reservations of land not exceed “the smallest area compatible with the proper care and management of the objects to be protected”;
(ii) whether designated lands are appropriately classified under the Act as “historic landmarks, historic and prehistoric structures, [or] other objects of historic or scientific interest”;
(iii) the effects of a designation on the available uses of designated Federal lands, including consideration of the multiple-use policy of section 102(a)(7) of the Federal Land Policy and Management Act (43 U.S.C. 1701(a)(7)), as well as the effects on the available uses of Federal lands beyond the monument boundaries;
(iv) the effects of a designation on the use and enjoyment of non-Federal lands within or beyond monument boundaries;
(v) concerns of State, tribal, and local governments affected by a designation, including the economic development and fiscal condition of affected States, tribes, and localities;
(vi) the availability of Federal resources to properly manage designated areas; and
(vii) such other factors as the Secretary deems appropriate.
82 FR 20429-20430 (May 1, 2017).

The National Monuments being initially reviewed are listed in the following tables:

NATIONAL MONUMENTS BEING INITIALLY REVIEWED PURSUANT TO CRITERIA IN EXECUTIVE ORDER 13792
Interior Department Releases List of Monuments Under Review, Announces First-Ever Formal Public Comment Period for Antiquities Act Monuments

I was listening to news on Bears Ears yesterday:
Interior Secretary Zinke, Utah delegation meet to discuss next steps on Bears Ears

The Tribes are not happy.
Tribes upset over review of Bears Ears monument designation
Interior has yet to meet with Bears Ears tribal leaders

They better tread very carefully here.
Nature Is a Pretty Sight Only to Those Sitting Pretty

Indians are sore losers and should be ashamed of their ancestors for not creating a strong, prosperous, and united nation. If they don't like White people, they should go back to Siberia where they belong. Putin will know how to deal with them. We don't need them here. Use it or lose it is the natural law of property.

The motivation of those push and bossy snobs who want to preserve little-known or scarcely attractive places is that they are upper-class spoiled brats who know that the uninhibited development of nature is the main cause of class mobility. With that recognized as the cause of their backward-looking perspective, they must be forced to surrender all their birth privileges, because those are what set up such decadent regressives in undeserved positions of power over our laws and culture.
 
Can we get rid of the whole thing.......way we are going lame ass Presidents will steal all the open space for govt
We the People own it, Moths. So Presidents who create monuments and parks and wetlands and what nots are not stealing it.
You have a perverted sense of ownership............once Uncle Sam gets his claws in we own nothing.........
Lizardtarian Hymn: "I'd Like to Buy a Koch the World...."

We, the people, are Uncle Sam. That's why we need a democracy and must overthrow this Kochist Republic.
 
Can we get rid of the whole thing.......way we are going lame ass Presidents will steal all the open space for govt
We the People own it, Moths. So Presidents who create monuments and parks and wetlands and what nots are not stealing it.
You have a perverted sense of ownership............once Uncle Sam gets his claws in we own nothing.........
Lizardtarian Hymn: "I'd Like to Buy a Koch the World...."

We, the people, are Uncle Sam. That's why we need a democracy and must overthrow this Kochist Republic.
In theory yes.........In Practice No you are not.....simply by looking around and seeing how much we are being ruled against our will by those elected and more so by bureaucrats you never see.....
 
Can we get rid of the whole thing.......way we are going lame ass Presidents will steal all the open space for govt
We the People own it, Moths. So Presidents who create monuments and parks and wetlands and what nots are not stealing it.
You have a perverted sense of ownership............once Uncle Sam gets his claws in we own nothing.........
Sorry, Moths. Federal lands belong to all of us.
 
https://www.usnews.com/news/business/articles/2017-04-26/trump-wants-a-review-of-national-monuments

During a signing ceremony at the Interior Department, Trump said the order would end "another egregious abuse of federal power" and "give that power back to the states and to the people where it belongs."

Trump accused the Obama administration of using the Antiquities Act to "unilaterally put millions of acres of land and water under strict federal control" — a practice Trump derided as "a massive federal land grab."


"Somewhere along the way the Act has become a tool of political advocacy rather than public interest," Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke said. "And it's easy to see why designations in some cases are viewed negatively by those local communities that are impacted the most."

In December, shortly before leaving office, President Barack Obama infuriated Utah Republicans by creating the Bears Ears National Monument on more than 1 million acres of land that's sacred to Native Americans and home to tens of thousands of archaeological sites, including ancient cliff dwellings.
 
Can we get rid of the whole thing.......way we are going lame ass Presidents will steal all the open space for govt
We the People own it, Moths. So Presidents who create monuments and parks and wetlands and what nots are not stealing it.
You have a perverted sense of ownership............once Uncle Sam gets his claws in we own nothing.........
Sorry, Moths. Federal lands belong to all of us.
^Idiot of the year
^:lol:
 
No one person should be able to declare a National Monument without support of the people.

The 1906 law should be repealed and replaced with one that at a minimum should require 2/3rds vote in the House and Senate as Well.

No President is a King and shouldn't have that authority with a stroke of a pen to declare lands the Gov't.

It's BS.
 
No one person should be able to declare a National Monument without support of the people.

The 1906 law should be repealed and replaced with one that at a minimum should require 2/3rds vote in the House and Senate as Well.

No President is a King and shouldn't have that authority with a stroke of a pen to declare lands the Gov't.

It's BS.
So you think. You better read the entire act, and you are going to be really startled.
 
No one person should be able to declare a National Monument without support of the people.

The 1906 law should be repealed and replaced with one that at a minimum should require 2/3rds vote in the House and Senate as Well.

No President is a King and shouldn't have that authority with a stroke of a pen to declare lands the Gov't.

It's BS.
So you think. You better read the entire act, and you are going to be really startled.
When Obama made this a National Monument........who else had checks and balances on that decision.

Whether the Monument was justified is not the issue. It's not allowing 1 person to decide. Please show me the vote or approval from Congress and the people to approve such a measure.
 
No one person should be able to declare a National Monument without support of the people.

The 1906 law should be repealed and replaced with one that at a minimum should require 2/3rds vote in the House and Senate as Well.

No President is a King and shouldn't have that authority with a stroke of a pen to declare lands the Gov't.

It's BS.
So you think. You better read the entire act, and you are going to be really startled.
When Obama made this a National Monument........who else had checks and balances on that decision.

Whether the Monument was justified is not the issue. It's not allowing 1 person to decide. Please show me the vote or approval from Congress and the people to approve such a measure.
You better read the entire act. You are going to be very unhappy, I think.
 

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