Indonesia deploys warships/planes 'against' Australia

[percysunshine]

This is probably all about oil. That is the only thing Australia has that Indonesia needs.

Trade with Indonesia;

http://www.dfat.gov.au/geo/fs/indo.pdf

Well, there is lots of other stuff to;

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Australian_Energie_ressources_and_major_export_ports_map.svg

 

[Indofred]

I live in Jakarta so can assure posters, there is no mass movement against Australia here.
There are a few idiots but, as we see from some posts here, Australia has its share.

 

[bianco]

I live in Jakarta so can assure posters, there is no mass movement against Australia here.
There are a few idiots but, as we see from some posts here, Australia has its share.

On my 6 o'clock tv news tonite it was announced what the latest warning is from Indonesia.
Basically that they don't accept PM Tony Abbott's 'turn back the boats' policy and that if he tows one more boat back...they're gonna start shooting.

It's been taken seriously by many people as a threat and basically a "declaration of war".

Abbott can have the Navy tow the boats back, as long as the Australian warships stay in international waters, refuel the people-smuggling boats with just enough fuel to reach Indonesia there, point them in the direction of Indonesia, and release them.

The Indonesian warships were shown, as the Indonesian threats were announced.

Hugs and tears and a long goodbye as HMAS Darwin leaves for the Middle East

Hugs and tears and a long goodbye as HMAS Darwin leaves for the Middle East


January 20, 2014

Emotional: Maddie, 5, hugs her father Petty Officer Andrew Booth. Photo: Dean Sewell

Andrew Booth will be more than 12,000 kilometres away when his five-year-old daughter, Maddie, walks through the school gates for the first time next week.

Their farewell tears fell on Sunday instead, when Petty Officer Booth left with a crew of 220 personnel on board HMAS Darwin, bound for the Middle East for a seven-month mission.

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Time to get HMAS Darwin back here and pronto.

See the Indonesian navy fighting terrorists in the Middle East?

 

[percysunshine]

Where is John Kerry when you need him?

 

[bianco]

Where is John Kerry when you need him?

He's backing AQ terrorists in Syria?

Saw him on my tv news the other night demanding that Assad has to leave office before there'll be a solution in Syria.
What about he loses his 'love' for AQ linked rebels and blows them up...problem solved.

Christians in Syria have the best chance under Assad's rule.

Kerry in Asia-Pacific?
No thank you!

Australia had its best chance under President George W Bush.

 

[idb]

That's what you get from trying to be one of the big boys.
Cosying up to the US has just made you a target.

New Zealand is the milk supply for a billion people in SE Asia.

More valuable than oil.

I think New Zealand not Indonesia who is a real rising power in the region. They just crushed India in two consecutive ODIs. A real concern for the world peace.

Video highlights: New Zealand v India - second ODI - Story - 3 Sport - 3 News

Yep, that have may have been a bit of a diplomatic faux pas - I'll grant you that.
Normally we let the other side win to keep the peace.

 

[idb]

Where is John Kerry when you need him?

He's backing AQ terrorists in Syria?

Saw him on my tv news the other night demanding that Assad has to leave office before there'll be a solution in Syria.
What about he loses his 'love' for AQ linked rebels and blows them up...problem solved.

Christians in Syria have the best chance under Assad's rule.

Kerry in Asia-Pacific?
No thank you!

Australia had its best chance under President George W Bush.

Australia were practically humping GWB's leg!

 

[Indofred]

See the Indonesian navy fighting terrorists in the Middle East?

I love uninformed twats because they're so easily made to look like fucking idiots.

Indonesia?s push for peacekeeping operations | The Strategist

As it happens, I've just been mildly involved in selections for an Indonesian police deployment for peacekeeping duties in several countries.

 

[Indofred]

You lack common sense. A nation of 23-million cannot raise an army of 15-million people.

Ever heard of child soldiers?
If they can wield a cricket bat, they can wield a machine gun..

Well done. You've moved on from advocating genocide by WND to displaying a wish to use Australian children as child soldiers.

Phew, what a loony.

 

[bianco]

See the Indonesian navy fighting terrorists in the Middle East?

I love uninformed twats because they're so easily made to look like fucking idiots.

Indonesia?s push for peacekeeping operations | The Strategist

As it happens, I've just been mildly involved in selections for an Indonesian police deployment for peacekeeping duties in several countries.

Well there you go.

You'd have to wonder where their invasion of East Timor and torturing/mutilating/ genociding of 200,000 people fits into the picture.
...and their annexing of West Papua.

Of note;

Its traditional non-alignment posture means it’s unlikely to join other efforts led by the US.

And now it seems itching to start a war with Australia.
Peacekeepers...baaah!

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Indonesia’s peacekeeping activities are further supported by military exercises with the US and other partners like Australia.
Military exercises that include peace support activities are Exercise Garuda Shield, held annually with the US Army, and Exercise Garuda Kookaburra, a new desktop peacekeeping exercise with the ADF.

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Australia should immediately cancel all exercises with Indonesia, permanently.

 

[Indofred]

On my 6 o'clock tv news tonite it was announced what the latest warning is from Indonesia.
Basically that they don't accept PM Tony Abbott's 'turn back the boats' policy and that if he tows one more boat back...they're gonna start shooting.

It's been taken seriously by many people as a threat and basically a "declaration of war".

You really should link to that or perhaps it only happened in your mind.

A declaration of war would be pretty massive news but it seems to have been missed by the Australian press.

Search Results | News.com.au

indonesia, All the ABC

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In fact, most of the mentions are about Australian spying on Indonesia or Australian ships entering Indonesian waters and Australia apologising.

Please link to the declaration of war.

 

[idb]

On my 6 o'clock tv news tonite it was announced what the latest warning is from Indonesia.
Basically that they don't accept PM Tony Abbott's 'turn back the boats' policy and that if he tows one more boat back...they're gonna start shooting.

It's been taken seriously by many people as a threat and basically a "declaration of war".

You really should link to that or perhaps it only happened in your mind.

A declaration of war would be pretty massive news but it seems to have been missed by the Australian press.

Search Results | News.com.au

indonesia, All the ABC

Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian

In fact, most of the mentions are about Australian spying on Indonesia or Australian ships entering Indonesian waters and Australia apologising.

Please link to the declaration of war.

I suspect the 'many people' he refers to are talk-back callers.

 

[percysunshine]

Look, neither party has nukes....so how serious can it really get?

(the Aussies might have them. They have uranium mines)

 

[Vikrant]

New Zealand is the milk supply for a billion people in SE Asia.

More valuable than oil.

I think New Zealand not Indonesia who is a real rising power in the region. They just crushed India in two consecutive ODIs. A real concern for the world peace.

Video highlights: New Zealand v India - second ODI - Story - 3 Sport - 3 News

Yep, that have may have been a bit of a diplomatic faux pas - I'll grant you that.
Normally we let the other side win to keep the peace.

That explains why India has been so lucky with New Zealand so far. I hope New Zealand will revert back to its more palatable foreign policy of letting others win but until then it looks like poor India is going to get mauled without any mercy.

 

[idb]

I think New Zealand not Indonesia who is a real rising power in the region. They just crushed India in two consecutive ODIs. A real concern for the world peace.

Video highlights: New Zealand v India - second ODI - Story - 3 Sport - 3 News

Yep, that have may have been a bit of a diplomatic faux pas - I'll grant you that.
Normally we let the other side win to keep the peace.

That explains why India has been so lucky with New Zealand so far. I hope New Zealand will revert back to its more palatable foreign policy of letting others win but until then it looks like poor India is going to get mauled without any mercy.

Just one more win to secure the series and then we can go back to our normal policy!

It's looking pretty good at the moment - NZ 181-1 after 31 overs.

 

[bianco]

On my 6 o'clock tv news tonite it was announced what the latest warning is from Indonesia.
Basically that they don't accept PM Tony Abbott's 'turn back the boats' policy and that if he tows one more boat back...they're gonna start shooting.

It's been taken seriously by many people as a threat and basically a "declaration of war".

You really should link to that or perhaps it only happened in your mind.

A declaration of war would be pretty massive news but it seems to have been missed by the Australian press.

Search Results | News.com.au

indonesia, All the ABC

Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian

In fact, most of the mentions are about Australian spying on Indonesia or Australian ships entering Indonesian waters and Australia apologising.

Please link to the declaration of war.

I suspect the 'many people' he refers to are talk-back callers.

As they were at the last election in Sept 2013, they are indicative of society in general.

Here are the Indonesian warships shown on ch 9 news Fri.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/

Along with the film clip was announced the threat from Indonesia that it will no longer accept people smuggling boats being towed/turned back to Indonesia and that if PM Abbott does so there'll be trouble...ie ... war...its warships shooting at the Australian Navy and its war planes reaching Australia.
One doesn't have to be Einstein to get the message.

Indonesia; basically; "DO as WE SAY or we'll attack you with our war ships and warplanes".

Chest thumping fools!

 

[Indofred]

You really should link to that or perhaps it only happened in your mind.

A declaration of war would be pretty massive news but it seems to have been missed by the Australian press.

Search Results | News.com.au

indonesia, All the ABC

Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian

In fact, most of the mentions are about Australian spying on Indonesia or Australian ships entering Indonesian waters and Australia apologising.

Please link to the declaration of war.

I suspect the 'many people' he refers to are talk-back callers.

As they were at the last election in Sept 2013, they are indicative of society in general.

Here are the Indonesian warships shown on ch 9 news Fri.

Australian and World News - ninemsn, Nine News

Along with the film clip was announced the threat from Indonesia that it will no longer accept people smuggling boats being towed/turned back to Indonesia and that if PM Abbott does so there'll be trouble...ie ... war...its warships shooting at the Australian Navy and its war planes reaching Australia.
One doesn't have to be Einstein to get the message.

Indonesia; basically; "DO as WE SAY or we'll attack you with our war ships and warplanes".

Chest thumping fools!

Nothing in that link about Indonesia.
It does mention something about awards for top Australians and rapists.

 

[bianco]

Indonesia sends warships to patrol southern border | World news | theguardian.com

Indonesia sends warships to patrol southern borderSukhoi Su-27/30 Flankers are also ready to fly to the border if an Australian ship is detected in Indonesian waters

The Indonesian president's foreign affairs spokesman, Teuku Faizasyah, said: “A violation of our national territory for any reason cannot be tolerated.”

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Really, Faizasyah...

or maybe Indonesia just hates now getting back the asylum-seekers who were leaving Indonesia in what was basically a people-smuggling ferry service to Australia.
The Labor govt was booted out last Sept...as the People have had enough of the people-smuggling boats arriving every other day, and free homes and welfare cash for life having to be provided for their cargo by only 10million taxpaxers in the whole nation.

Indonesia only seems to give lip service to trying to stop the boats.
Everyone knows what goes on.

Asylum seekers drown as boat capsizes off Java; Customs ship to offload separate rescued group

- September 28, 2013, 5:17 am

Indonesian rescue authorities say 22 asylum seekers died when their boat sank off the south coast of west Java.

Speaking on the basis of information provided by local police, rescue authorities say 22 bodies and 25 survivors have been found.

As many as 30 are still feared missing but Indonesian rescue authorities do not have the capability to search at night, or in big seas, so there was little hope of them being found overnight.

The dead bodies were to be taken to a local health centre but it is too small to house them.

The tragedy comes as a diplomatic row continues to simmer over Australia's plans to turn back asylum boats.

Meanwhile, Australian authorities are attempting to return a second group of asylum seekers to Indonesia after rescuing them at sea.

The Australian Customs ship, ACV Triton, has been given permission to enter Indonesian waters to offload 31 asylum seekers rescued overnight.

It will be the second time since yesterday that Australian rescue authorities have returned asylum seekers to Indonesia.

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Indonesia will just have to rescue itself the asylum seekers on the Indonesian flagged, Indonesian crewed, people-smuggling boats when they capsize in future.

Australia should tell the world who is responsible for the dead bodies...Indonesia!
Rumour has it that Indon cops are driving the asylum-seekers to the boats in their vans.
Radio host said it's fact.

 

[bianco]

Nothing in that link about Indonesia.

There should be Indonesian warships in the little video box at the top of the page.

 

[bianco]

Jakarta ready for clash over border

An assertion by Prime Minister Tony Abbott on Wednesday that Australia’s right to stop asylum-seeker boats as a “matter of sovereignty” seems to have further antagonised Jakarta.

A Defence Ministry official warned the tow-back policy may soon ignite conflict. “Now that we have three frigates on the border, a clash could be imminent, as our Navy will prevent the towing-back,” said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

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Sure looks like a "declaration of war" to me.

Simple solution...tow them back to the edge of Indonesia waters, just outside...padlock the rudder so it points to Indonesia, and start the engines.

Should be no problem...all the Indonesian navy ships and patrol boats can escort them back from whence they came...Indonesia!