Individual mandate...a Republican idea

[Bfgrn]

You're amongst the phoniest turds on this forum...I wouldn't put it past you to have lied on that quiz, largely irrelevant that it is in the first place.

What I've gathered from your borderline psycho shriekings is that you're essentially a social libertine and an economic authoritarian ...Exactly the kind of dictatorial central planner Hayek strenuously spoke out against.

Closet tyrant poseurs like you are even phonier that Fabian socialists and Wilsonian progressives who cynically hide behind the term "liberal".

Yea, I'm the Marquis De Sade and you're Gandhi...

Do you live on earth or some mirror universe where black is white and up is down.

WHEN will we see your libertarian beliefs? So far, all I hear from you is far right wing dogma and token pot shots at Republicans that have no credibility...

Here's s FACT for your tiny little brain...authoritarianism is a right wing personality trait

 

[Zoom-boing]

For Republicans, the idea of requiring every American to have health insurance is one of the most abhorrent provisions of the Democrats' health overhaul bills.

"Congress has never crossed the line between regulating what people choose to do and ordering them to do it," said Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT). "The difference between regulating and requiring is liberty."

But Hatch's opposition is ironic, or some would say, politically motivated. The last time Congress debated a health overhaul, when Bill Clinton was president, Hatch and several other senators who now oppose the so-called individual mandate actually supported a bill that would have required it.

In fact, says Len Nichols of the New America Foundation, the individual mandate was originally a Republican idea. "It was invented by Mark Pauly to give to George Bush Sr. back in the day, as a competition to the employer mandate focus of the Democrats at the time."

The 'Free-Rider Effect'
Pauly, a conservative health economist at the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton School, says it wasn't just his idea. Back in the late 1980s — when Democrats were pushing not just a requirement for employers to provide insurance, but also the possibility of a government-sponsored single-payer system — "a group of economists and health policy people, market-oriented, sat down and said, 'Let's see if we can come up with a health reform proposal that would preserve a role for markets but would also achieve universal coverage.' "

The idea of the individual mandate was about the only logical way to get there, Pauly says. That's because even with the most generous subsidies or enticements, "there would always be some Evel Knievels of health insurance, who would decline coverage even if the subsidies were very generous, and even if they could afford it, quote unquote, so if you really wanted to close the gap, that's the step you'd have to take."

One reason the individual mandate appealed to conservatives is because it called for individual responsibility to address what economists call the "free-rider effect." That's the fact that if a person is in an accident or comes down with a dread disease, that person is going to get medical care, and someone is going to pay for it.

"We called this responsible national health insurance," says Pauly. "There was a kind of an ethical and moral support for the notion that people shouldn't be allowed to free-ride on the charity of fellow citizens."

Republican, Democratic Bills Strikingly Similar

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And??? It's a piss poor idea regardless of 'which team' came up with it. Get it?

 

[Misty]

It's the political equal of democrats thinking a draft would stop warmongering

republicans thought if you required people to get insurance they would realize this reform ain't no free ride

this healthcare reform may be the single biggest mistake in political history.

Or it may accomplish just what the democrats want it to, destroy private sector healthcare altogether so the government will have to provide it.