Incredible Teachings of Muhammed

[janeeng]

I am wondering if really drinking camels urine is really healthy! listed below:


Mohammed's teachings are included in what is called "Hadith." The "Hadith" is a record of Mohammed's words and deeds according to his wives, relatives, and companions. Next to the Quran, it is the most important part of Islamic law; its teachings are just as binding.

The Hadith is recorded in many books, and by many people, not all of them are agreed upon by all Muslims. All of our quotes here are from "Sahih Al-Bukhari" which comes in nine volumes, and contains thousands of Hadiths. Al Bukhari is accepted by most Muslims as the authentic words of Mohammed. Because of the limited space, we will mention here just a few examples.

Our purpose is to give the reader a taste of the teachings of Mohammed, the prophet of Islam. Some of these teachings may shock you, and some may amuse you. Others may simply leave you mystified.

WOMEN
Women are deficient in mind and religion.



Mohammed asked some women, "Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half that of a man?" The women said, "yes," He said, "This is because of the deficiency of the woman's mind. " Vol. 3:826


Mohammed to women: "I have not seen any one more deficient in intelligence and religion than you." Vol. 2:541


The majority of people in hell are women.

Mohammed said, "I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers are women. " Vol. 1:28, 301; Vol. 2:161; Vol. 7:124


Women are a bad omen.

Mohammed said, " Bad omen is in the woman, the house and the horse." Vol. 7:30


Women are harmful to men.

Mohammed said, "After me I have not left any affliction more harmful to men than women." Vol. 7:33


Women may not wear wigs.

Mohammed said, " Don't wear false hair for Allah sends His curse upon such ladies who lengthen their hair artificially." Vol. 7:133
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SEX AND MARRIAGE
Mohammed's sexual strength is equal to 30 men.

Anas said, "The prophet used to visit all his wives in an hour round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, "Had the prophet the strength for it?" Anas replied, "We used to say that the prophet was given the strength of thirty (men). " Vol. 1:268


Mohammed married a 9 year old girl.

"Narrated Aisha that the prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old."Vol. 7:64


Allah hurries to please Mohammed's sexual desires.

When the Quranic verse that allows Mohammed to postpone the turn of any wife was revealed, and when Mohammed said that Allah allowed him to marry his adopted son's wife, Aisha (one of his wives) told him, "O Allah's Apostle I do not see but that your Lord hurries in pleasing you. " Vol. 7:48


When a woman is divorced irrevocably, she can not return to her husband until she marries (including having sexual intercourse) with another man.

"Narrated Aisha: The wife of Rifaa Al-Qurazi came to Allah's Apostle and said, 'O Allah's Apostle, Rifaa divorced me irrevocably. After him I married Abdur-Rahman bin Az-Zubair Al-Qurazi who proved to be impotent.' Allah's Apostle said to her, 'Perhaps you want to return to Rifaa? Nay (You cannot return to Rifaa) until you and Abdur-Rahman (the impotent man) engage in sexual intercourse!" Vol. 7:186
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HUMAN RIGHTS
Islam is to be imposed by force.

Mohammed said, "I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah, and whoever says, " None has the right to be worshipped but Allah , his life and property will be saved by me." (otherwise it will not). Vol. 4:196


Apostasy is punishable by death.

Mohammed said, "Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him." Vol. 9:57


A Muslim must not be killed if he kills a non-Muslim.

Mohammed said, " No Muslim should be killed for killing a Kafir" (infidel). Vol. 9:50


Ethnic cleansing is practiced.

Mohammed said to the Jews, "You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle (Mohammed) and I want to expel you from this land (The Arabian Peninsula), so, if anyone owns property, he is permitted to sell it." Vol. 4:392


Mohammed's last words at his deathbed were: "Turn the pagans (non-Muslims) out of the Arabian Peninsula." Vol. 5:716
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ETERNAL SECURITY
No assurance of Salvation.

Mohammed said. "By Allah, though I am the apostle of Allah, yet I do not know what Allah will do to me." Vol. 5:266


God punishes a deceased if his relatives weep.

Mohammed said, "The deceased is punished because of the weeping of his relatives." Vol. 2:375


When you speak badly about a deceased, the deceased will go to hell.

Mohammed said, "You praised this, so Paradise has been affirmed to him, and you spoke badly of this, so hell has been affirmed to him. You people are Allah's witnesses on earth." Vol. 2:448


Urine on your clothes will bring punishment from God.

Mohammed said, "The deceased person is being tortured in the grave not for a great thing to avoid, it is for being soiled with his urine. " Vol. 2:460


Holy war (Jihad) is a guarantee of heaven.

Mohammed said, "The person who participates in (Holy battles) in Allah's cause and nothing compels him to do so except belief in Allah and His Apostle, will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward, or booty (if he survives) or will be admitted to paradise (if he is killed). " Vol. 1:35
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MEDICINE
Drinking camel's urine will make you healthy.

"The prophet ordered them to follow his camels, and drink their milk and urine , so they followed the camels and drank their milk and urine till their bodies became healthy." Vol. 7:590


Fever is from the heat of hell.

Mohammed said, " Fever is from the heat of hell, so put it out (cool it) with water." Vol. 7:619


A fly in your drink is a cure.

Mohammed said, "If a housefly falls in the drink of anyone of you, he should dip it (in the drink), for one of its wings has a disease and the other has the cure for the disease. " Vol. 4:537


How the baby's looks are determined.

Mohammed said, "As for the child, if the man's discharge precedes the woman's discharge, the child attracts the similarity of the man, and if the woman's discharge precedes the man's, then the child attracts the similarity of the woman." Vol. 5:275
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MISCELLANEOUS
If you eat garlic don't come to the place of worship.

Mohammed said, "Whosoever ate from this plant (i.e. garlic) should not enter the mosque." Vol. 1:812


Effect of evil eye

Mohammed said, "The effect of an evil eye is a fact. " Vol. 7:636


Which shoe you should put on first.

Mohammed said, "If you want to put on your shoes, put on the right shoe first, and if you want them off, take the left one first." Vol. 7:747


Breathing in your drink is bad.

Mohammed said, "Don't breath into your drinking utensil." Vol. 1:156


God frightens his devotees with eclips.

Mohammed said, "The sun and the moon are two signs amongst the signs of Allah and they do not eclipse because of the death of someone but Allah frightens His devotees with them. " Vol. 2:158

Satan urinates in people's ears, when they don't wake up for prayer.

Narrated Abdullah: the prophet was told that a person had kept on sleeping till morning and had not got up for the prayer. The prophet said, "Satan urinated in his ears." Vol. 2:245
Yawning is from Satan.

The prophet said, "Yawning is from Satan and if anyone of you yawns, he should check his yawning as much as possible, for if anyone of yuo (during the act of yawning) should say: "Ha", Satan will laugh at him." Vol. 2:158
Stars are missiles which God uses to hit the devils.

The creation of stars is for three purposes, i.e., as decoration of the sky, as missiles to hit the devils, and as signs to guide travelers. Vol. 2:158

 

[dijetlo]

Thanks Janeeng, I read your post and thought it a bit one sided so I started going through the Islamic Hadath. Women are not considered as worthy in religious practices as men for one reason I could find.

They cannot pray during menstruation.

As for the rest of your post, the document was written in the 6th and 7th century AD, it is a little out of date. I must point out that our own founding fathers didn't give women the right to vote for much the same reasons as listed by Mohammed, only a thousand years later. You don't think they were bad guys, do you?

The oft repeated "Mohommed was a child molester" is a gross distortion. To understand why he slept with the 9 year old girl, you need to understand the history and the culture. Mohammed didn't "fall in love" with any of his wives, and he certainly didn't mary them because they were "hot". They were political alliances cemented in shared blood (the offspring of the union). This was considered proper for the age. After marrying it was his religious duty to bed her once she started menses, (sex for procreation only, so what if Mohammed found it disgusting/loved it, he had a wife, she was fertile, god sais mount up, be fruitful and multiply. The profit of Islam could hardly refuse.)
You know he actually is quoted in the hadith as refferring to Jesus as " a soul created by Allah and His Word."

Volume 9, Book 93, Number 601:

Allah's Apostle said, "until...the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you as a just ruler

"When any human being is born. Satan touches him at both sides of the body with his two fingers, except Jesus, the son of Mary
You notice he never reffers to him as the son of Joseph (which would be the way Jesus was refferred to in life)? It's because he beleived in the virgin birth as well.
See, they're cousins, not enemies. Some of them are demented and in that as well, they are just like us.

 

[jimnyc]

The oft repeated "Mohommed was a child molester" is a gross distortion.

To understand why he slept with the 9 year old girl

No amount of explanations can possibly convince me that this is 'proper' in any way. The brain of a 9 year old just hasn't formed enough to make proper decisions yet. This is sexual abuse and cannot be explained as anything less.

 

[janeeng]

I copied that out of an article I was reading, not really sure what's truth and what's not! but........

They cannot pray during menstruation

That is just weird! How would you know if a woman was going through menstruation or not??? I know we are bitch's, but well, forget it, I found that too weird!

 

[dijetlo]

>>how would you know if a woman was going through menstruation or not??? <<

I looked at some of that trying to find the info I posted. Basicaly it reads like Monte Pythons instructions for the "Holy Handgrenade".

:cof:

 

[jimnyc]

LOL

 

[dijetlo]

>>The brain of a 9 year old just hasn't formed enough to make proper decisions yet.<<
In the society of the time, a womans brain was incapable of making that kind of decicision, that's why her father decided for her
>> This is sexual abuse and cannot be explained as anything less.<<
A contract marriage and a religious duty is what someone from the 7th century would think of it as and after all, we are talking about events in the 7th century.
Was it sexual abuse? Certainly it was. Was he a child molester? Here the argument becomes very thin. Did he sleep with her because he wanted a nine year old girl or because she was his wife? I can only point out that he didn't marry any more nine year old girls once Aisha grew up.

 

[5stringJeff]

I think that regardless of the cultural contexts, having sex with a pre-pubescent / pre-menstrual girl is inexcusable, marriage or not.

 

[dijetlo]

Originally posted by gop_jeff
[Bhaving sex with a pre-pubescent / pre-menstrual girl is inexcusable, marriage or not. [/B]

Then if the nine year old was menstruating, it would be O.K. ? Dude, I can't prove she was but she married him at 6 and didn't sleep with him until she was 9, based on these peoples religious beliefs there can be little doubt her period is what initiated the sexual liason. Christians were doing the same thing during this era, for the same reasons. Was it destructive to the children? To some extent yes, though she didn't appear at all traumatized by it, Aisha seems to be almost bragging if you read the unexcerpted version of the reff'ed text.
What can I say, it was a different time, a different culture, they had different priorities. None of their contemporaties would have called him a child molester, though they would have been scandalized if they'd found out they were not sleeping together after their union was able to produce children.
To sit thirteen hundred years in the future and pass judgement on them based on a totaly modern frame of reference is not constructive (not to mention fair).

 

[5stringJeff]

Originally posted by dijetlo
Christians were doing the same thing during this era, for the same reasons.

Please give me a link. I doubt that there is documentation that Christians approved of the sexual exploiation of nine-year-olds.

What can I say, it was a different time, a different culture, they had different priorities. None of their contemporaties would have called him a child molester, though they would have been scandalized if they'd found out they were not sleeping together after their union was able to produce children.
To sit thirteen hundred years in the future and pass judgement on them based on a totaly modern frame of reference is not constructive (not to mention fair).

I don't know any culture or society that pressured its members to marry off their daughters at six, or pressured its members to have sex with girls at such a young age. I understand that different cultures have different values, but I have never heard of a culture that encouraged sex with girls at such a young age.

 

[dijetlo]

>>Please give me a link. I doubt that there is documentation that Christians approved of the sexual exploiation of nine-year-olds.<<

Most children maried by 14

Look here
>> At the age of seven girls could become betrothed. However an actual marriage could not occur before the age of twelve for girls and fourteen for boys... For the nobility it was important to keep the bloodlines within the family and to marry within their status. Because of this there were a lot of marriages between cousins. In many cases, the children were not involved and marriages were arranged by their fathers...In these marriages, often the sole purpose was to produce children<<
Couldn't find 9 for you, how about 12 instead. Were they approving of >>the sexual exploiation of << of 12 year olds? I think they were largely unconcerned because in there world, their were no lingerie models or internet porn. You climbed on your wife to make babies, if you did it for any other reason, you were sinning. God decided it was time for the girl to get married, after all he gave her her period.

 

[Spirit_Soul]

Gop_jeff & djetlo,
You cannot prove that one religion is wrong and another is right, because all the religions ironically have a bad side

So, to say that this is wrong and this is right, "this is true faith and that is not" etc would be ridiculous.

Muhammed taught what was thought of as "laws" for the desert roaming people, so did some of the christian law givers , thats why there are rules today like circumscion for men, because it was befitting them at that time.

I am not saying that things like exploitation of children and pedophilia were befitting then, but in their perception maybe they were and that is all that counts for them.

Anyway, past is in the past and present is now, lets talk about the present and refrain from actions which provoke unecessary hate replacing love in our hearts.

 

[dijetlo]

>>So, to say that this is wrong and this is right, "this is true faith and that is not" etc would be ridiculous.<<
I think Jeff is just enjoying making me defend this point 'cause I was foolish enough to make it.

 

[5stringJeff]

Originally posted by dijetlo
> >At the age of seven girls could become betrothed. However an actual marriage could not occur before the age of twelve for girls and fourteen for boys... For the nobility it was important to keep the bloodlines within the family and to marry within their status. Because of this there were a lot of marriages between cousins. In many cases, the children were not involved and marriages were arranged by their fathers...In these marriages, often the sole purpose was to produce children<<
Couldn't find 9 for you, how about 12 instead. Were they approving of >>the sexual exploiation of << of 12 year olds? I think they were largely unconcerned because in there world, their were no lingerie models or internet porn. You climbed on your wife to make babies, if you did it for any other reason, you were sinning. God decided it was time for the girl to get married, after all he gave her her period.

I think there's a huge difference between 9 and 12, namely, menstruation. In the Middle Ages, when infant mortality rates were staggering and many women's death were related to childbirth, it makes sense to marry girls off at an early age.

Please note: I am absolutely not advocating that we do this today. In my opinion, people are not emotionally ready to marry until they hit 25 or so. I was 26 and I think I was barely ready. I am also not advocating an age of consent of 12. My point is that to have sex with a pre-pubescent girl is wrong, reagrdless of cultural circumstances; marrying girls off at age 12, a very young (not to mention emotionally unstable) age, was not the greatest thing, but probably necessary to create offspring; and that today, we shouldn't allow girls to marry until they are adults - 18, although I think that people should wait a little longer so that they are sure of who they are, what they like in others, etc.

 

[5stringJeff]

Originally posted by Spirit_Soul
Gop_jeff & djetlo,
You cannot prove that one religion is wrong and another is right, because all the religions ironically have a bad side

So, to say that this is wrong and this is right, "this is true faith and that is not" etc would be ridiculous.

I disagree. I think you can prove that one religion is right. I haven't attempted to do so here because I don't want people to think that I'm just out to prove Christianity right, and I'm intolerant of other viewpoints, etc. etc. I have a lot of different interests besides religion, and I enjoy debating those as well.

 

[5stringJeff]

Originally posted by dijetlo
>>So, to say that this is wrong and this is right, "this is true faith and that is not" etc would be ridiculous.<<
I think Jeff is just enjoying making me defend this point 'cause I was foolish enough to make it.

I'm sure that you are not defending the sexual exploitation of 9 year olds! My original comment was that it is not right to do so, and I know you agree.

 

[dijetlo]

>>I think there's a huge difference between 9 and 12, namely, menstruation.<<
I have one daughter who started menstruating when she was ten (though I will deny I told you guys this if she ever finds out I mentioned it.). I almost fell over when I found out ("God, why have you forsaken me???")
>> I think you can prove that one religion is right...I don't want people to think that I'm just out to prove Christianity right, and I'm intolerant of other viewpoints<<
I must salute your rationale for avoiding that issue, Jeff. You not only prove you are a pious gentleman but also a worthy adversary for an debate.
>>that it is not right to do so, and I know you agree.<<


Spirit
>>Muhammed taught what was thought of as "laws" for the desert roaming people, so did some of the christian law givers...<<
Excellent point. Like much of the Judeo/Christian/Islamic religion, it was written in a burning desert.

 

[NightTrain]

Bullshit!

I don't care WHO you are, or WHAT religion you are, the fact that you married and raped ( you can term this any way you want, it's child rape, people! ) makes you a child molestor.

PERIOD!!!

I defy any normal man to look at any 9 year old and think anything other than "SHE'S A KID!"

I don't wanna hear any bullshit about "Oh, but these were different times!" or "Oh, but she was menstruating!" bullshit, she was a fucking KID!!!!!

Kids are kids, not sex toys! That child got a really raw deal, and people to this day are excusing it! WTF????

9 years old, 10, 11, they're innocent KIDS!!


You do all the excusing you want, it was flat out fucking wrong!

 

[NightTrain]

BTW, Dijetlo... a request from myself :

Please use the quote function in your posts.

You generally have very good information, but the << in the middle of a paragraph makes it tedious to read - compare some of your posts to someone who uses it that also has alot of info to impart - IMHO it's much easier to read.

Just a humble plea, have mercy on us simple Republicans.

 

[eric]

I defy any normal man to look at any 9 year old and think anything other than "SHE'S A KID!"

NT, I'm in complete agreement, I do not care about the culture or the other weak reasons people will put forth, this is a child, period! Even if it was accepted at the time, a 9 year old just does not posses the physiology that arouses a man, at least not a normal one.