Increasing public unrest in Israel

[Shusha]

It's simple no matter how much you want to obfuscate reality.
Israel's right wing Zionists have herded over two million people from their homes into a walled open air prison / weapons testing ground.

As long as Israel remains in violation of UN Res. 242 & 338 and engages in frequently "mowing the lawn", they are resisting an internationally condemned occupation and, now, blatant genocide.

Also, if you had better arguments, you wouldn't have to use rhetorical buzzwords like this.

 

[Grau]

Also, if you had better arguments, you wouldn't have to use rhetorical buzzwords like this.

If you had any argument to refute anything I've written you wouldn't need such snarky and transparent evasions.

Israel's right wing Zionists planned to destroy Gaza and murder / expel its native residents at least ten years ago.

The decision to enable the attack about which at least some Israeli officials had full knowledge gave Israel's genocidal right wing expansionists the convenient excuse to execute this additional step toward their "Greater Israel".

"Israeli official calls for concentration camps in Gaza and 'the conquest of the entire Gaza Strip, and annihilation of all fighting forces and their supporters'"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...fighting-forces-supporters.html#ixzz4r533poyd

EXCERPT "Moshe Feiglin, Deputy Speaker of the Israeli Knesset and member of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s ruling Likud Party, posted the inflammatory message on his Facebook page at the weekend.

He lays out a detailed plan for the destruction of Gaza - which includes shipping its residents across the world - in a letter he addressed to the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

In the letter he expresses his desire for the IDF to find areas on the Sinai border to establish 'tent encampments...until relevant emigration destinations are determined.'

He says that the supply of electricity and water to the Gaza would be disconnected before being 'shelled with maximum fire power.' " CONTINUED

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Ethical and honest Jews and Israelis are the ones who see Gaza as a walled concentration camp:

"Gaza is a concentration camp, and it’s an American delusion not to recognize that"

Gaza is a concentration camp, and it’s an American delusion not to recognize that — Weschler

Lawrence Weschler, a writer of considerable mainstream prestige, is sick of prevaricating about Israel. It’s rabid. It has rabies. And Gaza is a concentration camp. Weschler has let loose chiefly…

mondoweiss.net

EXCERPT "Lawrence Weschler, a writer of considerable mainstream prestige, is sick of prevaricating about Israel. It’s rabid. It has rabies. And Gaza is a concentration camp. Weschler has let loose chiefly because of the “remorseless” and “repetitively compulsive” aspect of Israeli violence. I believe that understanding is now widely shared in the liberal mainstream, and interventions like Weschler’s make it easier for others to speak up."CONTINUED

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It was yet another honest and ethical Israeli who produced "The Lab" about Israel's exploitation of their control over Gaza to use it as a weapon's testing ground:

“The Lab”: Israel Tests Weapons, Tactics On Captive Palestinian Population
https://www.wrmea.org/2013-septembe...actics-on-captive-palestinian-population.html

EXCERPT "“The Lab,” which won a recent award at DocAviv, Israel’s documentary Oscars, is due to premiere in the U.S. in August. Directed by Yotam Feldman, the film presents the first close-up view of Israel’s arms industry and the dealers who have enriched themselves.

The title relates to the film’s central argument: that Israel has rapidly come to rely on the continuing captivity of Palestinians in what are effectively the world’s largest open-air prisons.

The reason is that there are massive profits to be made from testing Israeli military innovations on the more than four million Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank."CONTINUED

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Finally, it was the NY Times and Israeli officials that regards: "mowing the lawn" or "cutting the grass" as "...the “operative metaphor” most widely used in Israel to describe the Gaza operation. "

"Israel’s “Operation Mow the Lawn”​

Israel's "Operation Mow the Lawn" - MERIP

One can only imagine the nods of self-satisfaction when an Israel Defense Forces planner came up with “Pillar of Cloud” to name Israel’s subsequent eight-day aerial assault on Gaza. By lifting this metaphor from several well-known passages in the Torah, the IDF sought to portray the operation as...

merip.org

EXCERPT "In fact, during Pillar of Cloud it was widely observed that many Israeli commentators and officials preferred the gardening metaphor of “mowing the lawn” or “cutting the grass,” which the New York Times asserted was the “operative metaphor” most widely used in Israel to describe the Gaza operation.

Moreover, the ex-CIA analyst Elizabeth Murray reminded us that this metaphor had been frequently used in Israel to describe its Operation Cast Lead assault on Gaza in 2008-2009 that killed over 1,400 Palestinians, which one hardline Israel supporter at a think tank seminar brushed off at the time by saying: “It’s unfortunate, but every once in a while you have to mow the lawn.” CONTINUED

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What you are complaining about as "buzz words" are frequently accurate terms describing a genocidal agenda condemned by ethical and rational Jews and Israelis.

 

[Grau]

As usual, entirely ignoring any Arab responsibility.

America is not supporting the Arabic resistance groups with the most advanced weaponry in the world and countless $ Trillions.

Why do you remain mute on Zionist responsibility for enabling complicity in the well known and long expected 7 October attack:

"New York Times report says Israel knew about Hamas attack over a year in advance"

https://apnews.com/article/new-york-times-hamas-attack-israel-gaza-6088cad78f5e4153d671fe9b5b81930

EXCERPT "The attack was planned in plain sight. A month before the assault, Hamas posted a video to social media showing fighters using explosives to blast through a replica of the border gate, sweep in on pickup trucks and then move building by building through a full-scale reconstruction of an Israeli town, firing automatic weapons at human-silhouetted paper targets.

In the video, the militants destroyed mock-ups of the wall’s concrete towers and a communications antenna, just as they would do for real on Oct. 7.

Adding to public outrage over the military’s apparent negligence, the Israeli media has reported that military officials dismissed warnings from female border spotters who warned that they were witnessing Hamas’ preparations for the attack. According to the media reports, the young women reported seeing Hamas drones and attempts to knock out Israeli border cameras in the months leading up to the attack." CONTINUED

 

[Lisa558]

This is such a bizarre inversion of reality. But I understand the psychology of it, as this type of reversal is often used by perpetrators of violence. As in: I wouldn't have to beat you if you would just give in to my demands and as in: if you respond to my violence in ways other than giving me what I want, it will be worse for you next time.

This shifts the accountability and responsibility for committing violence away from the perpetrator and gives him a sense of righteousness that the use of violence is deserved. The purpose is to create a system of appeasement, where the perpetrator uses violence and the threat of violence, to have his demands met. This typically increases in frequency and intensity over time, with the perpetrator feeling comfortable using higher levels of violence more often to maintain his control.

It is beyond insane that the international community believes that the violence would end if we just give the terrorists what they want. That's not how any of this works. If you give an abuser/terrorist what he wants, it just feeds into his perception of justification for the use of violence. The correct response to terror is that you will NEVER get what you want using violence.

This seems to be the new tactic of anti-Jew Democrats: blame the Jews for terrorist actions against them.

For example, I had started a thread about the Muslim terrorist who had snuck across the border with the plan to shoot up a Jewish Community Center in NYC, showing the dangers of allowing unvetted migrants immigrants from anti-Israel countries present to innocent American Jews.

Arlette, a liberal on this thread who purports to be against bigotry, responded in two ways:

1) She blamed the Jews for turning people into terrorists (and she used the word “Jews”)

2) She mocked the idea of a Jewish Community Center and asked “why can’t Jews be normal”?

Yet, we still have liberals who insist their siding against Israel has nothing to to with antisemitism.

 

[Lisa558]

But nothing else will work, they tried everything else, what's coming is coming.

They didn’t try accepting Isrsel’s offers of peace-for-land. Duh.

 

[Lisa558]

Ever, just like the Romans should never have been in Britain.

The Arabs have a right - in law, in the UN charter - to resist foreign invaders. If the invaders leave the illegally occupied lands then they'll see less resistance to that occupation.

The Jews are not foreign invaders. They have been there for at least 3,500 years.

Where are your condemnations about countries that obtained land via actual conquest, which has happened throughout history? Why all the focus on the country you called the “Jew supremacy state” in yet another example of your raging antisemitism?

 

[cnm]

Singled out for sanctions the SOB should be singled out for assassination.

Droned?

 

[cnm]

Do you know what actually reduces the probability of terror?

Ending occupation.

 

[Lisa558]

Ending occupation.

Nope. Not breaking a cease-fire to launch the most savage, barbaric terrorist attack against Jews since the Holocaust.

The Gazans should have accepted Israel’s earlier peace offers. THEY and the HAMAS cockroaches they elected didn’t want it because what they want most of all is Israel and all her Jews murdered.

 

[Deadstick]

I can hear apologists for the Gaza genocide howling "conspiracy theory" but there are just too many indicators that at least some Israeli officials were instrumental in orchestrating this attack.

How much more blatant can it be when Israel knew a year in advance when, where and how the attack would occur and decided to withdraw troops from the affected areas?

The greatest threat to Israel right now is Netanyahu and his equally myopic henchmen because, as you said, they are creating millions more terrorists / resistance fighters throughout the region that will be relentless in their retaliation for the Gaza genocide for generations.

What those apologists for Zionist genocide don't seem to realize is that there are about 1.7 Billion Muslims in the world and about 17 Million Jews.
Since far more militant "Israel Firsters" prefer "Keyboard duty" over Combat duty, things don't look good for Israel's long term survival.

Many thanks,

Well Israel did employ the Hannibal directive using tanks and Apache choppers with chain guns and hell fire missiles, how else did hundreds of cars get reduced to burning metal? they were buried in the desert that was the destruction of forensic evidence.

 

[gipper]

Nope. Not breaking a cease-fire to launch the most savage, barbaric terrorist attack against Jews since the Holocaust.

The Gazans should have accepted Israel’s earlier peace offers. THEY and the HAMAS cockroaches they elected didn’t want it because what they want most of all is Israel and all her Jews murdered.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

The Jews are not foreign invaders. They have been there for at least 3,500 years.

Yes, Jews like Palestinians and others have been there for thousands of years. But most of the Jews in Israel are either from or are descended from European immigrants who happen to be Jewish, they are from Europe and one can trace their families back generations within Europe. This is where enlightened Jewish culture began with developments in music, art, science and mathematics - none of that happened in the Levant!

Prior to militant Zionism very few Jews outside of the Levant knew anything about it, had never been there, did not know anybody there and had no affinity for the place, it was seen as a poorly developed backwater, they were attracted by the offer of free (stolen) land.

Most of the Jews in Israel are transplants, the goal was since the 1920 to encourage migration of Jews into the Levant in order to swell the numbers are alter the demographics.

Where are your condemnations about countries that obtained land via actual conquest, which has happened throughout history? Why all the focus on the country you called the “Jew supremacy state” in yet another example of your raging antisemitism?

I do condemn colonization, it has destroyed millions and millions of lives around the world. Consider the Belgian Congo, the colonizers there make the Nazis look feeble, its estimated between 10 and 15 million indigenous Africans were exterminated - shmolocaust, holocaust.

 

[Lisa558]

Yes, Jews like Palestinians and others have been there for thousands of years. But most of the Jews in Israel are either from or are descended from European immigrants who happen to be Jewish, they are from Europe and one can trace their families back generations within Europe. This is where enlightened Jewish culture began with developments in music, art, science and mathematics - none of that happened in the Levant!

Prior to militant Zionism very few Jews outside of the Levant knew anything about it, had never been there, did not know anybody there and had no affinity for the place, it was seen as a poorly developed backwater, they were attracted by the offer of free (stolen) land.

Most of the Jews in Israel are transplants, the goal was since the 1920 to encourage migration of Jews into the Levant in order to swell the numbers are alter the demographics.

I do condemn colonization, it has destroyed millions and millions of lives around the world. Consider the Belgian Congo, the colonizers there make the Nazis look feeble, its estimated between 10 and 15 million indigenous Africans were exterminated - shmolocaust, holocaust.

^^^ your last remark about the Holocaust, trying to shrug it off as no big deal, is BLATANTLY antisemitic, and will be reported.

 

[gipper]

^^^ your last remark about the Holocaust, trying to shrug it off as no big deal, is BLATANTLY antisemitic, and will be reported.

Do you deny what happened in the Congo?

Hochschild bases this assertion on the findings of his award-winning book King Leopold's Ghost: A Story of Greed, Terror, and Heroism in Colonial Africa. The book reconstructs the period from 1884 to 1907 when King Leopold II of Belgium occupied the territory that became Zaire and is known today as the Democratic Republic of the Congo. According to Hochschild, Leopold profited from the Congo's rubber, ivory and other riches -- but at the cost of the lives of some 10 million Congolese. And what is even more appalling, few of us have ever heard of King Leopold, whereas Hitler and Stalin are household names.

Author Hochschild Recounts Lost History of Horror in the Belgian Congo

www.wilsoncenter.org

 

[Natural Citizen]

Uh oh. Karen's gonna speak to the manager again.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

^^^ your last remark about the Holocaust, trying to shrug it off as no big deal, is BLATANTLY antisemitic, and will be reported.

Every holocaust is a big deal, that's my view on this, sadly they do not all get met with the same degree of outrage and sympathy and I don't think that's right. Zionists deny the Nakba, and now deny the Gaza genocide too, that's holocaust denial to an Arab, that's what you should be reporting.

 

[Grau]

Well Israel did employ the Hannibal directive using tanks and Apache choppers with chain guns and hell fire missiles, how else did hundreds of cars get reduced to burning metal? they were buried in the desert that was the destruction of forensic evidence.

You're right again.

That's why IDF shot at everyone who moved knowing that they could blame all the deaths on Hamas because, then, Israel's army of genocidal Zionist propagandists would greatly inflate the number of casualties while dismissing any figures presented by the Palestinians as "grossly exaggerated".

Israel's ruling right wingers have been looking for an excuse to destroy Gaza and murder / expel its existing population for at least 10 years:


"Israeli official calls for concentration camps in Gaza and 'the conquest of the entire Gaza Strip, and annihilation of all fighting forces and their supporters'"

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...fighting-forces-supporters.html#ixzz4r533poyd

EXCERPT "Moshe Feiglin, Deputy Speaker of the Israeli Knesset and member of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s ruling Likud Party, posted the inflammatory message on his Facebook page at the weekend.

He lays out a detailed plan for the destruction of Gaza - which includes shipping its residents across the world - in a letter he addressed to the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

In the letter he expresses his desire for the IDF to find areas on the Sinai border to establish 'tent encampments...until relevant emigration destinations are determined.'

He says that the supply of electricity and water to the Gaza would be disconnected before being 'shelled with maximum fire power.' " CONTINUED

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The tragic events of 7 October was no "surprise" attack as the Israeli government had multiple specific and credible warnings (1).

At least some elements in the Israeli government ensured that an otherwise impossible breach of the Wall was made possible and the Zionist expansionists had their excuse to carry out the Gaza genocide they had been planning since the beginning of the Nakba.


Thanks,




(1). "New York Times report says Israel knew about Hamas attack over a year in advance"

New York Times report says Israel knew about Hamas attack over a year in advance

The New York Times is reporting Israel knew about Hamas attack plans over a year before the Oct. 7 operation, but dismissed them as “aspirational."

apnews.com

EXCERPT "The attack was planned in plain sight. A month before the assault, Hamas posted a video to social media showing fighters using explosives to blast through a replica of the border gate, sweep in on pickup trucks and then move building by building through a full-scale reconstruction of an Israeli town, firing automatic weapons at human-silhouetted paper targets.

In the video, the militants destroyed mock-ups of the wall’s concrete towers and a communications antenna, just as they would do for real on Oct. 7.

Adding to public outrage over the military’s apparent negligence, the Israeli media has reported that military officials dismissed warnings from female border spotters who warned that they were witnessing Hamas’ preparations for the attack. According to the media reports, the young women reported seeing Hamas drones and attempts to knock out Israeli border cameras in the months leading up to the attack." CONTINUED

 

[Lisa558]

Every holocaust is a big deal, that's my view on this, sadly they do not all get met with the same degree of outrage and sympathy and I don't think that's right. Zionists deny the Nakba, and now deny the Gaza genocide too, that's holocaust denial to an Arab, that's what you should be reporting.

Lying about “genocide” when 99.5% of Gazans are alive in an antisemitic blood libel. Also reported.

 

[Deadstick]

Lying about “genocide” when 99.5% of Gazans are alive in an antisemitic blood libel. Also reported.

Well some are alive at the moment for how long who knows?.

 

[Lisa558]

Well some are alive at the moment for how long who knows?.

Oh please…..stop with the blood libel.

They would ALL be alive if not for the HAMAS savages you side with.