Increasing public unrest in Israel

[Mac-7]

History since 1948 is consistent with that belief, yes.

Ahh, melodrama, how predictable.

There is really nothing to discuss

Hamas must die

 

[Shusha]

Well I'm sorry that doesn't meet your expectations.

Lol. My expectations. It doesn't meet the standards of your claim, which was:

Yes but there must be evidence ...

that any of these places were being used in such a way that military force becomes authorized under international law, its a very high bar if you care to look.

You are making claims about international law here, with no source documents to support your claim. If it is such a "very high bar", surely it will be written down somewhere in a legal document.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Lol. My expectations. It doesn't meet the standards of your claim, which was:

Oh, then please explain, why did you think I was quoting a legal document?

You are making claims about international law here, with no source documents to support your claim. If it is such a "very high bar", surely it will be written down somewhere in a legal document.

You've misunderstood. If you were a soldier with the responsibility for firing a tank shell at a school that had children inside the building, then tell me - what evidence would you personally require before firing the tank shell?

How would you protect yourself from a charge of war crime? what steps would you take to ensure the strike was in accordance with the law?

The point that you've missed is that there MUST be evidence in order for the strike on the school to be justified, yes? do you need a document to understand this?

I've read numerous reports and articles by lawyers and human rights investigators that say the bar is very high, bombing a school that has children in it, requires extremely compelling reasons.

Perhaps you'd just fire shell when ordered, but that's what the Nazis argued when they were on trial - "but we were just following orders, we were soldiers".

It would be ironic if Israeli soldiers argued that they were exempt from this accountability when the Jewish lawyers argued that German soldiers were not exempt from that accountability.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

There is really nothing to discuss

Hamas must die

It won't though, the fierce determination to resist foreign occupation will remain unless Israel kills every single Palestinian and we both know what that would amount to don't we...

 

[Mac-7]

It won't though, the fierce determination to resist foreign occupation will remain unless Israel kills every single Palestinian and we both know what that would amount to don't we...

Ok fine

Your side can never defeat Israel either

Thats why I say there will never be peace in the Holy Land

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Ok fine

Your side can never defeat Israel either

Thats why I say there will never be peace in the Holy Land

There will be peace in the Holy Land once the racial supremacist Zionist evil is destroyed.

 

[JGalt]

All Arabs are circumcised....unless they are Catholic.

No matter, they're still filthy, unwashed, and dead.

Israel for Israelis, the rest can go to hell.

 

[Shusha]

Oh, then please explain, why did you think I was quoting a legal document?

You've misunderstood. If you were a soldier with the responsibility for firing a tank shell at a school that had children inside the building, then tell me - what evidence would you personally require before firing the tank shell?

How would you protect yourself from a charge of war crime? what steps would you take to ensure the strike was in accordance with the law?

The point that you've missed is that there MUST be evidence in order for the strike on the school to be justified, yes? do you need a document to understand this?

I've read numerous reports and articles by lawyers and human rights investigators that say the bar is very high, bombing a school that has children in it, requires extremely compelling reasons.

Perhaps you'd just fire shell when ordered, but that's what the Nazis argued when they were on trial - "but we were just following orders, we were soldiers".

It would be ironic if Israeli soldiers argued that they were exempt from this accountability when the Jewish lawyers argued that German soldiers were not exempt from that accountability.

Great. In future, perhaps, if I request primary source documentation for a legal point of IHL, and you are merely presenting your opinion, then you could just, say so.

There are, indeed, legal constraints for protected places, including the very important one of not placing military objectives in protected places.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

No matter, they're still filthy, unwashed, and dead.

Israel for Israelis, the rest can go to hell.

Spoken like a true racial supremacist, like "Germany for Germans".

 

[Mac-7]

There will be peace in the Holy Land once the racial supremacist Zionist evil is destroyed.

Which will never happen

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Great. In future, perhaps, if I request primary source documentation for a legal point of IHL, and you are merely presenting your opinion, then you could just, say so.

And my question?

You've misunderstood. If you were a soldier with the responsibility for firing a tank shell at a school that had children inside the building, then tell me - what evidence would you personally require before firing the tank shell?

Do you even know?

There are, indeed, legal constraints for protected places, including the very important one of not placing military objectives in protected places.

How do you know if a school contains a military objective?

 

[JGalt]

Spoken like a true racial supremacist, like "Germany for Germans".

Say, do the world a favor and go stand in front of an IDF D-9.

Then say "hello" to Rachel Corrie while you're at it.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Say, do the world a favor and go stand in front of an IDF D-9.

Then say "hello" to Rachel Corrie while you're at it.

I'll do that if necessary and I'll say hello to Pat Tillman while I'm at it.

 

[JGalt]

I'll do that if necessary and I'll say hello to Pat Tillman while I'm at it.

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Tillman wasn't stupid enough to stand in front of an IDF D-9 Caterpillar.

Hey, did you know that once a year they have "Pancake Day" in Israel, where they celebrate Rachel Corrie?

 

[rylah]

I'll do that if necessary and I'll say hello to Pat Tillman while I'm at it.

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All you'll do is sadly drink vodka in the "great Satan"
while cheering impotent Muslims beating women
at the Olympics as your victory.

An Arab man's courage

is Sinwar's rat hole.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Tillman wasn't stupid enough to stand in front of an IDF D-9 Caterpillar.

No, but he was a man of peace, wanted to meet Noam Chomsky too.

Hey, did you know that once a year they have "Pancake Day" in Israel, where they celebrate Rachel Corrie?

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No I didn't know that, one more reason to bomb the place.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

All you'll do is sadly drink vodka in the "great Satan"
and cheer Muslim men beating women
at the Olympics as victory.

Speaking of wife beating, you guys were at it before Mohamed was a twinkle in his dad's eye

The most useful source to study wifebeating is responsa literature, which includese a variety of attitudes towards the phenomenon. While some sources declare wifebeating unlawful, others justify it under certain circumstances. Some Ashkenazi rabbis considered battering as grounds for forcing a man to give a get. In fifteenth-century Europe, more rabbis approved of wifebeating for the purpose of education.

Source: JWA Wifebeating in Jewish Tradition

I always wondered where the Muslims picked up this idea, now I know, it wasn't just circumcision they copied from Jews.

 

[rylah]

Speaking of wife beating, you guys were at it before Mohamed was a twinkle in his dad's eye



Source: JWA Wifebeating in Jewish Tradition

I always wondered where the Muslims picked up this idea, now I know, it wasn't just circumcision they copied from Jews.

Oh that skirt is showing Mahmoud...

Who was talking about wife beating?
One thing is an Arab triggered to blaming Jews
for beating his wife, but why make it into a sport?

The Blogs: UN: Israel to blame for Palestinian men beating their wives

From the blog of Hillel Neuer at The Times of Israel

blogs.timesofisrael.com

 

[Grau]

All Netanyahood is doing is creating a new generation of Anti-Israel Terrorists. But he hates Palestinians and does not care killing innocent civilians.

Apologists for what the international community has condemned as a genocide are entirely unable to refute the fact that what the Netanyahu government is doing is systematic extermination / expulsion of Gaza's native population based on a one day attack about which Israel had known for over a year and even made easier for the attackers.(1)

"New York Times report says Israel knew about Hamas attack over a year in advance"

New York Times report says Israel knew about Hamas attack over a year in advance

The New York Times is reporting Israel knew about Hamas attack plans over a year before the Oct. 7 operation, but dismissed them as “aspirational."

apnews.com

EXCERPT "The attack was planned in plain sight. A month before the assault, Hamas posted a video to social media showing fighters using explosives to blast through a replica of the border gate, sweep in on pickup trucks and then move building by building through a full-scale reconstruction of an Israeli town, firing automatic weapons at human-silhouetted paper targets.

In the video, the militants destroyed mock-ups of the wall’s concrete towers and a communications antenna, just as they would do for real on Oct. 7.

Adding to public outrage over the military’s apparent negligence, the Israeli media has reported that military officials dismissed warnings from female border spotters who warned that they were witnessing Hamas’ preparations for the attack. According to the media reports, the young women reported seeing Hamas drones and attempts to knock out Israeli border cameras in the months leading up to the attack." CONTINUED

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Many officials in Netanyahu's government knew how when and where the attack was going to occur so why did they withdraw "two commando brigade companies"(1) unless they wanted to make the attack effective enough to generate just enough Israeli outrage to support destroying Gaza and murdering / expelling its native residents.

Because Israel's criminal, violent and greedy "Settlers" have already made specific plans to move to Gaza, steal more land and get that much closer to the Zionist delusion of a "Greater Israel" it becomes more evident that certain Israeli officials aided and abetted the 7 October attack.

As shocking as that may be, it's not the first time that Zionists have been willing to sacrifice other Jews for a "Greater Israel":

“If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel.”
Ben-Gurion (Quoted on pp 855-56 in Shabtai Teveth’s Ben-Gurion in a slightly different translation).

Ben-Gurion’s Notorious Quotes: Their Polemical Uses & Abuses

I’ve been engaged in a long-term e-mail debate with anti-Zionists, associated with David McReynolds, a former leader of the War Resisters’ League and a tiny remnant that still calls itself the Socialist Party, USA. Seth Farber, one of the most vociferous (although not quite the nastiest) of my...

www.progressiveisrael.org

Re: All Netanyahood is doing is creating a new generation of Anti-Israel Terrorists.

Thank you, I've lost track of the number of times I've written the same thing.

About 50 years ago, I walked and hitch-hiked throughout the Middle East without a single hostile hostile incident and no many acts of generosity and kindness.

Because I had no schedule and was traveling alone, I was frequently "kidnapped" and taken to a remote village because the driver wanted me to meet his family, friends and treat me to at least one meal. I would then be shown one of the innumerable archeological sites I had come to see and then meet my host's friends for tea where my "audience" wanted to hear all about my life in the West, American movies, American cars and places around the world I have seen.

It didn't matter that I was an American because it is part of the Islamic culture to be kind to travelers.

Inevitably, we would reach to topic of Israel - Palestine.
The two questions I was most frequently asked were:
1. "Why do Americans suddenly hate us?"
2. "Why does America help Israel kill Palestinians and steal their land?"

I tried to explain the egregious bias of pro Israel MSM and the toxic influence of the Israeli lobbies that dominate US Middle East policy but the Muslims couldn't understand how people as advanced as Americans could be so easily deceived and manipulated ....... neither can I.

It is precisely because I have seen that the Islamic world would not be an enemy of the West without the machinations of Zionist lobbies, our pro Israel MSM bias and the gullibility of the American public.

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"Israeli army to investigate moving of troops from Gaza border 2 days before Oct. 7 attack"​

Israeli army to investigate moving of troops from Gaza border 2 days before Oct. 7 attack

Troops moved towards West Bank before Hamas launched surprise attack against Israel - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

EXCERPT "Earlier on Monday, the Israeli Public Broadcasting Corporation (KAN) said two commando brigade companies were moved from the Gaza border to the Huwara area of the northern West Bank two days before the Hamas attack.

The attack by Hamas on Israeli locations surrounding Gaza left hundreds of Israelis killed, including soldiers and civilians, and triggered a deadly onslaught by Israel against the Gaza Strip." CONTINUED

 

[Deadstick]

You missed the whole point. There is nothing Israel can do to stop the perpetrators of violence from planning to use violence as a method of control over Israel. That is the perpetrator's responsibility. The people of Gaza must stop planning to use violence to control Israel.

The word you are looking for is resistance, resistance to Israeli occupation and aggression, why is that so hard to understand?