Inconvenient and Unpopular Truths about Marijuana

[Woodznutz]

The stress comes from doing things right. Rush to work, work hard, rush home, 2 people running around frantically to try and barely stay afloat. And wre wonder why people feel stressed? In the scheme of things, once we are gone nothing that we did here makes one bit of difference. Not one. Nothing really matters. Not how hard one works or what car they drive the list is endless. Harsh reality.

Blame the division of labor for that. Everyone depending someone else for things they should be doing for themselves.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Why it should be made legal
Currently there is no control over the quality or potency. When we by alcohol we know the %
Marijuana does have medical benefits but today we have no control over the dosage. An overdose can be harmful. There are serious side effects. People will use it no matter what we have to make it safe

they tell you its potency on the package with all the warnings....here in Nevada anyway....

 

[Harry Dresden]

I find that a great number of weed users somehow believe they are entitled to use whenever and wherever they want, regardless of what property and business owners want.

you dont know any weed users....

 

[Harry Dresden]

"Violate people's rights".
How about not having stoners out on the highways causing deadly traffic accidents?
And how about not having people suffer severe psychoses from this "harmless plant"?
I have a relative who's a worthless sponge living off welfare, often violent, can't hold down a job. He had issues anyway and the super powerful weed of today has NOT done him any good. I get tired of it being defended as a "harmless plant".

super powerful weed of today?...no one has to order the most potent stuff there is some pretty tame stuff available....

 

[Harry Dresden]

False argument.
Go smoke a bowl and stare at your shoes for two hours.

if thats what you did?......dam you are a light weight....

 

[Harry Dresden]

The worst thing about pot is that when you're high on it you don't give a shit about anything (so I've heard).

you heard wrong....

 

[Lockback]

if thats what you did?......dam you are a light weight....

 

[Lockback]

super powerful weed of today?...no one has to order the most potent stuff there is some pretty tame stuff available....

Somebody is very, very defensive about his pot habit.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Somebody is very, very defensive about his pot habit.

just for saying whats on the package?...how was that me getting defensive?...

 

[petro]

This is where small government proponents fail when they adamantly support a Nanny State.
Just another form of behavioral control technicians.

 

[Lockback]

just for saying whats on the package?...how was that me getting defensive?...

You replied THREE times to me on this thread.
You're obsessed with weed. And you don't like criticisms of it.

 

[Woodznutz]

you heard wrong....

I heard it from the experts that study this stuff.

 

[Harry Dresden]

You replied THREE times to me on this thread.
You're obsessed with weed. And you don't like criticisms of it.

no i did not....i replied 2 times....the first time i corrected you because you had no idea that you can buy some weed of average potency.....the 2nd time because if thats what you do you are a light weight...the 3rd time like i said...correcting someone else who has never bought legal pot.....

 

[d0gbreath]

It's mostly moot. Those who want to smoke already do.

The only people actually upset are those who want to be able to violate people's rights over "smelling marijuana".

And have been since the 1960s.

 

[DGS49]

Related anecdote: I mentioned to my son one time that I sometimes lose my temper when I make bad shots at golf. He gave be a container of his "stuff" - something MJ-related, I forget exactly what.

A month or so later I was having a bad day on the course and took one capsule around the 9th hole. Felt nothing. On the seventeenth, I took another. Still nothing. The only noticeable effect was that I could not add up the scores on the group scorecard, and I got lost several times on the way home from the course. I had no feelings of euphoria or contentment. None.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The stress comes from doing things right. Rush to work, work hard, rush home, 2 people running around frantically to try and barely stay afloat. And wre wonder why people feel stressed? In the scheme of things, once we are gone nothing that we did here makes one bit of difference. Not one. Nothing really matters. Not how hard one works or what car they drive the list is endless. Harsh reality.

How would you know? You haven't worked since the 90s.

 

[initforme]

How would you know? You haven't worked since the 90s.

Dont like it that i critique the usa eh?

 

[Yarddog]

ALEX BERENSON: Trump's marijuana order pushes a dangerous lie about drugs

The liberal and libertarian effort to destigmatize, normalize, legalize and even promote the use of "drugs of abuse" has been a catastrophe for the U.S.

www.foxnews.com

The President's recent move to normalize marijuana use has brought mild, uncomfortable, cheers from Libertarians and Leftists alike. It is one of those issues that politicians have shied away from for decades, concerned that there is a hard core of people who abhor MJ and its culture, and would punish politicians who vote to decriminalize it or suppress Federal enforcement. On a more practical side, the current state of Federal law places a serious burden on merchants of MJ, who cannot do their banking in the customary places or ways thus facilitating crimes involving massive amounts of cash.

But maybe MJ is actually as harmful as our forefathers supposed and it should not be normalized. The linked article makes a pretty good case in opposition to Trump's gambit, and it is well worth reading.

Something that caught my eye was the following sentence that truly hit home for me:

"Cannabis can cause psychotic episodes where users lose touch with reality and become paranoid that friends or family members want to hurt them."

My adult son is a long-time user of various forms of MJ, often obtained by prescription and/or at the suggestion of his "therapists." In recent years, we have learned that he blames basically every poor decision he has made in his (43 y.o.) life on the insidious influence of his mother/my wife, who has, we are told, "smothered" him with love, kindness, gifts of cash and kind, and overblown celebrations of holidays like Christmas. He now "hates" those celebrations, avoids them, and literally cannot have a conversation with his mother without blowing up at some imaginary slight or insult, and storming out of the premises. Most recently, in front of his three children.

It is a puzzle how an intelligent and educated adult can come to the conclusion that the one human who most sincerely and fervently wants the best for him in life - above all others - is hurting him incessantly and should be avoided. As Dave Barry used to write, "You could not make this up."

Is it the effect of decades of MJ use? Now at least we have a theory to go by - not that that will help anything.

I'll say you're not wrong but some people can handle it better than others, also I would say, teenagers should take it...NEVER, as their brains are still developing. If they get to using it regularly it can mess with thier dopamine production and cause ill psychological effects.

I have an older brother who started using at about age 14 and I saw his personality change from day to night in one year. By his early 20's was completely paranoid and mistrusting of everyone in the family. The only time he could be happy later in life was only when he had weed to smoke and large amounts of it.

Clearly not everyone is the same. maybe there are people here who smoked in their teens and will dissagree with me, but I know what I experienced and I know not everyones brain and composition are the same.
There are some people who are very vulnerable and the sad thing is they canot see it if it is happening to themselves.

 

[Lockback]

I'll say you're not wrong but some people can handle it better than others, also I would say, teenagers should take it...NEVER, as their brains are still developing. If they get to using it regularly it can mess with thier dopamine production and cause ill psychological effects.

I have an older brother who started using at about age 14 and I saw his personality change from day to night in one year. By his early 20's was completely paranoid and mistrusting of everyone in the family. The only time he could be happy later in life was only when he had weed to smoke and large amounts of it.

Clearly not everyone is the same. maybe there are people here who smoked in their teens and will dissagree with me, but I know what I experienced and I know not everyones brain and composition are the same.
There are some people who are very vulnerable and the sad thing is they canot see it if it is happening to themselves.

Thank you for having the courage to speak the truth instead of the accepted narrative.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Dont like it that i critique the usa eh?

You haven't been an active participant since the 90s.