Inconvenient and Unpopular Truths about Marijuana

[DGS49]

ALEX BERENSON: Trump's marijuana order pushes a dangerous lie about drugs

The liberal and libertarian effort to destigmatize, normalize, legalize and even promote the use of "drugs of abuse" has been a catastrophe for the U.S.

www.foxnews.com

The President's recent move to normalize marijuana use has brought mild, uncomfortable, cheers from Libertarians and Leftists alike. It is one of those issues that politicians have shied away from for decades, concerned that there is a hard core of people who abhor MJ and its culture, and would punish politicians who vote to decriminalize it or suppress Federal enforcement. On a more practical side, the current state of Federal law places a serious burden on merchants of MJ, who cannot do their banking in the customary places or ways thus facilitating crimes involving massive amounts of cash.

But maybe MJ is actually as harmful as our forefathers supposed and it should not be normalized. The linked article makes a pretty good case in opposition to Trump's gambit, and it is well worth reading.

Something that caught my eye was the following sentence that truly hit home for me:

"Cannabis can cause psychotic episodes where users lose touch with reality and become paranoid that friends or family members want to hurt them."

My adult son is a long-time user of various forms of MJ, often obtained by prescription and/or at the suggestion of his "therapists." In recent years, we have learned that he blames basically every poor decision he has made in his (43 y.o.) life on the insidious influence of his mother/my wife, who has, we are told, "smothered" him with love, kindness, gifts of cash and kind, and overblown celebrations of holidays like Christmas. He now "hates" those celebrations, avoids them, and literally cannot have a conversation with his mother without blowing up at some imaginary slight or insult, and storming out of the premises. Most recently, in front of his three children.

It is a puzzle how an intelligent and educated adult can come to the conclusion that the one human who most sincerely and fervently wants the best for him in life - above all others - is hurting him incessantly and should be avoided. As Dave Barry used to write, "You could not make this up."

Is it the effect of decades of MJ use? Now at least we have a theory to go by - not that that will help anything.

 

[pknopp]

It's mostly moot. Those who want to smoke already do.

The only people actually upset are those who want to be able to violate people's rights over "smelling marijuana".

 

[odanny]

OK, Boomer.

 

[Oddball]

Reefer Madness wasn't a documentary.

 

[sparky]

~S~

 

[Blaster]

Marijuana was a legal substance since the founding of our nation until FDR banned it in 1938.

 

[Mr Natural]

Reefer Madness wasn't a documentary.

When I was in the Navy back in the early seventies, they actually showed us “Reefer Madness” as an anti drug training film.

 

[Hafar1014]

Why it should be made legal
Currently there is no control over the quality or potency. When we by alcohol we know the %
Marijuana does have medical benefits but today we have no control over the dosage. An overdose can be harmful. There are serious side effects. People will use it no matter what we have to make it safe

 

[Anathema]

It's mostly moot. Those who want to smoke already do.

The only people actually upset are those who want to be able to violate people's rights over "smelling marijuana".

Sorry but MY right to regulate what happens on my property supersedes your right to engage in immoral activity on thst property.

If someone wants me in their life, they will avoid marijuana. There are plenty who can attest to my willingness to cut off those who use it.

 

[pknopp]

Why it should be made legal
Currently there is no control over the quality or potency. When we by alcohol we know the %
Marijuana does have medical benefits but today we have no control over the dosage. An overdose can be harmful. There are serious side effects. People will use it no matter what we have to make it safe

I don't smoke.........if I did though, I would grow my own.

But you are just trolling with your "overdose".

 

[pknopp]

Sorry but MY right to regulate what happens on my property supersedes your right to engage in immoral activity on thst property.

If someone wants me in their life, they will avoid marijuana. There are plenty who can attest to my willingness to cut off those who use it.

Great for you.

 

[Anathema]

Great for you.

I find that a great number of weed users somehow believe they are entitled to use whenever and wherever they want, regardless of what property and business owners want.

 

[pknopp]

I find that a great number of weed users somehow believe they are entitled to use whenever and wherever they want, regardless of what property and business owners want.

Sorry, can't help you.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

ALEX BERENSON: Trump's marijuana order pushes a dangerous lie about drugs

The liberal and libertarian effort to destigmatize, normalize, legalize and even promote the use of "drugs of abuse" has been a catastrophe for the U.S.

www.foxnews.com

The President's recent move to normalize marijuana use has brought mild, uncomfortable, cheers from Libertarians and Leftists alike. It is one of those issues that politicians have shied away from for decades, concerned that there is a hard core of people who abhor MJ and its culture, and would punish politicians who vote to decriminalize it or suppress Federal enforcement. On a more practical side, the current state of Federal law places a serious burden on merchants of MJ, who cannot do their banking in the customary places or ways thus facilitating crimes involving massive amounts of cash.

But maybe MJ is actually as harmful as our forefathers supposed and it should not be normalized. The linked article makes a pretty good case in opposition to Trump's gambit, and it is well worth reading.

Something that caught my eye was the following sentence that truly hit home for me:

"Cannabis can cause psychotic episodes where users lose touch with reality and become paranoid that friends or family members want to hurt them."

My adult son is a long-time user of various forms of MJ, often obtained by prescription and/or at the suggestion of his "therapists." In recent years, we have learned that he blames basically every poor decision he has made in his (43 y.o.) life on the insidious influence of his mother/my wife, who has, we are told, "smothered" him with love, kindness, gifts of cash and kind, and overblown celebrations of holidays like Christmas. He now "hates" those celebrations, avoids them, and literally cannot have a conversation with his mother without blowing up at some imaginary slight or insult, and storming out of the premises. Most recently, in front of his three children.

It is a puzzle how an intelligent and educated adult can come to the conclusion that the one human who most sincerely and fervently wants the best for him in life - above all others - is hurting him incessantly and should be avoided. As Dave Barry used to write, "You could not make this up."

Is it the effect of decades of MJ use? Now at least we have a theory to go by - not that that will help anything.

"Many of us have heard of some of the transmitter systems within our bodies, such as the sympathetic nervous system, which gives us our fight-or-flight response. Fewer have heard of the more recently discovered endocannabinoid system (ECS), which is amazing when you consider that the ECS is critical for almost every aspect of our moment-to-moment functioning. The ECS regulates and controls many of our most critical bodily functions such as learning and memory, emotional processing, sleep, temperature control, pain control, inflammatory and immune responses, and eating. The ECS is currently at the center of renewed international research and drug development."

The endocannabinoid system: Essential and mysterious - Harvard Health

Also, when John Douglas was first profiling serial killer for the FBI Behavioral Unit, something like 90+% of them came from abusive households with one or more ALCHOLIC adults.

Not stoners, alcoholics.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I don't smoke.........if I did though, I would grow my own.

But you are just trolling with your "overdose".

Unless you're in the right climate, growing is a challenge and needs 24/7 attention, especially at harvest time

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Marijuana was a legal substance since the founding of our nation until FDR banned it in 1938.

^ this.

He banned hemp too. Go figure that one out. Almost as it he was beholden to Big Paper

 

[pknopp]

Unless you're in the right climate, growing is a challenge and needs 24/7 attention, especially at harvest time

Basement with a grow light.........

It's also been grown where I live for decades.

 

[trevorjohnson83]

ALEX BERENSON: Trump's marijuana order pushes a dangerous lie about drugs

The liberal and libertarian effort to destigmatize, normalize, legalize and even promote the use of "drugs of abuse" has been a catastrophe for the U.S.

www.foxnews.com

The President's recent move to normalize marijuana use has brought mild, uncomfortable, cheers from Libertarians and Leftists alike. It is one of those issues that politicians have shied away from for decades, concerned that there is a hard core of people who abhor MJ and its culture, and would punish politicians who vote to decriminalize it or suppress Federal enforcement. On a more practical side, the current state of Federal law places a serious burden on merchants of MJ, who cannot do their banking in the customary places or ways thus facilitating crimes involving massive amounts of cash.

But maybe MJ is actually as harmful as our forefathers supposed and it should not be normalized. The linked article makes a pretty good case in opposition to Trump's gambit, and it is well worth reading.

Something that caught my eye was the following sentence that truly hit home for me:

"Cannabis can cause psychotic episodes where users lose touch with reality and become paranoid that friends or family members want to hurt them."

My adult son is a long-time user of various forms of MJ, often obtained by prescription and/or at the suggestion of his "therapists." In recent years, we have learned that he blames basically every poor decision he has made in his (43 y.o.) life on the insidious influence of his mother/my wife, who has, we are told, "smothered" him with love, kindness, gifts of cash and kind, and overblown celebrations of holidays like Christmas. He now "hates" those celebrations, avoids them, and literally cannot have a conversation with his mother without blowing up at some imaginary slight or insult, and storming out of the premises. Most recently, in front of his three children.

It is a puzzle how an intelligent and educated adult can come to the conclusion that the one human who most sincerely and fervently wants the best for him in life - above all others - is hurting him incessantly and should be avoided. As Dave Barry used to write, "You could not make this up."

Is it the effect of decades of MJ use? Now at least we have a theory to go by - not that that will help anything.

tell him his tailbone can wag, can cause dizziness sitting still, which can lead to oscilopsia, where objects in the vision appear to wobble. This will help with schizo, anxiety, paranoia, anger, depression. Your son sounds like a punk rocker resisting authority. Maybe he would be more comfortable with just stopping by for a visit and dinner than big holiday stuff.

 

[Anathema]

Sorry, can't help you.

Generally the great of police or violence is sufficient to make them see the light.

The one who didn’t get the hint was a college roommate. Having to call his parents and tell them he’d been expelled (fall 1992) changed his tune a little.

 

[TheInfiniteSadness]

DGS49 yes marijuana screws up peoples but that's not the reason he's doing it. It's economics. Here in Canada they legalised Pot because they knew how much taxes they could collect. It is wicked how much the government collects. To me Trump is only doing what most other countries are. Canada had no Lotteries or Casinos either and the government figured out how much they it would earn. Lotteries aren't taxed. The money goes to community organizations.