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In the Race to Succeed Weiner, a Surprising Anger at Obama

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Looks like a lot of people are pretty pissed off.

Of all the places to hear fulminations against President Obama, one of the least expected is the corner of 71st Avenue and Queens Boulevard, in the heart of a Congressional district that propelled Democrats like Geraldine A. Ferraro, Charles E. Schumer and Anthony D. Weiner to Washington.

Instead, the race has become something far more unsettling to Democrats: a referendum on the president and his party that is highlighting the surprisingly raw emotions of the electorate.

National Democrats, alarmed by a poll that showed the contest far closer than anticipated, are privately fretting that even a close outcome in a working-class swath of Brooklyn and Queens may foreshadow broader troubles for the party in 2012.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/22/nyregion/for-weiner-seat-gop-hopes-for-upset.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss
 

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Yeah..the GOP will probably take it. Really easily too.

Anyone want to bet on it? I will take the dem side.
 
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Yeah..the GOP will probably take it. Really easily too.

Anyone want to bet on it? I will take the dem side.

If you read the article they state the Dems will more than likely retain the seat but with a much narrower margin then was ever expected in this district which is why the Dems are worried. This is normally a staunchly blue voting bloc where Dem candidates never really have to worry about getting elected so there's usually very little campaigning needed.
 

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New Yorkers are a pretty pragmatic bunch. I've sent a couple of republicans to albany and voted for Bloomberg. If the GOP puts up a moderate republican against a far left nutter..they have a great chance of taking the seat.

Otherwise..not so much. Peter King wouldn't win any other district then one in Long Island or upstate New York.
 

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Ame®icano;4039004 said:
Yeah..the GOP will probably take it. Really easily too.

Anyone want to bet on it? I will take the dem side.

For you, there is no other side.

There can be only one!

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The anger directed towards Obama is warranted. But not in the way Conservatives think. The anger stems from a desire for Obama to stick to his guns and fight for what he was elected to do.

It's been nothing but obstruction from the Right and quiet compromise from Obama. He should be using the bully pulpit to the American people and calling these assholes out. Of course, the right wing spin machine calls any attempts to do so as playing the "blame game"... then he shuts up again.

In short, he needs to worry about getting reelected so much and stand up for his platform... THAT'S what put him in the White House.

And although people are angry... they certainly aren't going to vote for anything the Tea Party has to offer.
 
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The anger directed towards Obama is warranted. But not in the way Conservatives think. The anger stems from a desire for Obama to stick to his guns and fight for what he was elected to do.

It's been nothing but obstruction from the Right and quiet compromise from Obama. He should be using the bully pulpit to the American people and calling these assholes out. Of course, the right wing spin machine calls any attempts to do so as playing the "blame game"... then he shuts up again.

In short, he needs to worry about getting reelected so much and stand up for his platform... THAT'S what put him in the White House.

And although people are angry... they certainly aren't going to vote for anything the Tea Party has to offer.

If that's what you believe, then I feel sorry for you. He got elected because the country was sick of Bush... that, couple with the 'hey, let's vote for the black guy' from guilt ridden whites trying to prove they're not racists, and the 'Obama gonna pay my mortgage' brigade. That's what got him elected. It had jack shit to do with policies - since he didn't have any other than 'hope' and 'change'.

What I find very funny is the inability of either the Democrats or the Republicans to recognize that the majority of Americans don't much like either party.
 

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Yeah..the GOP will probably take it. Really easily too.

Anyone want to bet on it? I will take the dem side.

If you read the article they state the Dems will more than likely retain the seat but with a much narrower margin then was ever expected in this district which is why the Dems are worried. This is normally a staunchly blue voting bloc where Dem candidates never really have to worry about getting elected so there's usually very little campaigning needed.

So winning by less is supposed to be significant? That's what the rightwing propaganda machine would have us believe?

Funny the same clowns didn't acknowledge the significance of a Democrat actually winning NY26, the western NY Republican stronghold,

a Democrat who ran against the kill Medicare bill that the GOP unanimously voted for.

Naw, that wasn't significant. This IS.

Heeee-larious.
 

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You might want to study the interesting fact that although many NY'ers might be seriously disappointed with Obama,

we give our own governor, DEMOCRAT Andrew Cuomo,

a 71% approval rating.
 

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The anger directed towards Obama is warranted. But not in the way Conservatives think. The anger stems from a desire for Obama to stick to his guns and fight for what he was elected to do.

It's been nothing but obstruction from the Right and quiet compromise from Obama. He should be using the bully pulpit to the American people and calling these assholes out. Of course, the right wing spin machine calls any attempts to do so as playing the "blame game"... then he shuts up again.

In short, he needs to worry about getting reelected so much and stand up for his platform... THAT'S what put him in the White House.

And although people are angry... they certainly aren't going to vote for anything the Tea Party has to offer.

Exactly. :clap2:
 

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Anyone expecting different from Obama between now and 2012 is dreaming.
 

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The anger directed towards Obama is warranted. But not in the way Conservatives think. The anger stems from a desire for Obama to stick to his guns and fight for what he was elected to do.

It's been nothing but obstruction from the Right and quiet compromise from Obama. He should be using the bully pulpit to the American people and calling these assholes out. Of course, the right wing spin machine calls any attempts to do so as playing the "blame game"... then he shuts up again.

In short, he needs to worry about getting reelected so much and stand up for his platform... THAT'S what put him in the White House.

And although people are angry... they certainly aren't going to vote for anything the Tea Party has to offer.

If that's what you believe, then I feel sorry for you. He got elected because the country was sick of Bush... that, couple with the 'hey, let's vote for the black guy' from guilt ridden whites trying to prove they're not racists, and the 'Obama gonna pay my mortgage' brigade. That's what got him elected. It had jack shit to do with policies - since he didn't have any other than 'hope' and 'change'. What I find very funny is the inability of either the Democrats or the Republicans to recognize that the majority of Americans don't much like either party.
And the possibility that the Republicans will take back the senate and presidency in 2012 has jack to do with policies....since the Republicans and Tea Partiers don't have anything other than freedomsandliberties.
 
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The anger directed towards Obama is warranted. But not in the way Conservatives think. The anger stems from a desire for Obama to stick to his guns and fight for what he was elected to do.

It's been nothing but obstruction from the Right and quiet compromise from Obama. He should be using the bully pulpit to the American people and calling these assholes out. Of course, the right wing spin machine calls any attempts to do so as playing the "blame game"... then he shuts up again.

In short, he needs to worry about getting reelected so much and stand up for his platform... THAT'S what put him in the White House.

And although people are angry... they certainly aren't going to vote for anything the Tea Party has to offer.

Exactly. :clap2:

Bullshit.

He had a super-majority. He could quite easily have passed whatever he wanted during that time. He chose not to.

I cannot tell you how fucking moronic it is for each side to blame the other the way y'all do. Bush had a Democratic Congress - wanna blame, point the finger to your own side. Obama had a super majority and still didn't achieve jack shit.... wanna blame someone, point the finger at your own side.

Conclusion: The Democrats and the Republicans are fucking idiots.
 

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Just relax people. Mainstream media will vet the candidates and tell you who the best two choices are around May 2012. Then you can vote for the party that will do the best to serve its own purposes.
 

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The anger directed towards Obama is warranted. But not in the way Conservatives think. The anger stems from a desire for Obama to stick to his guns and fight for what he was elected to do.

It's been nothing but obstruction from the Right and quiet compromise from Obama. He should be using the bully pulpit to the American people and calling these assholes out. Of course, the right wing spin machine calls any attempts to do so as playing the "blame game"... then he shuts up again.

In short, he needs to worry about getting reelected so much and stand up for his platform... THAT'S what put him in the White House.

And although people are angry... they certainly aren't going to vote for anything the Tea Party has to offer.

Exactly. :clap2:

Bullshit.

He had a super-majority. He could quite easily have passed whatever he wanted during that time. He chose not to.

I cannot tell you how fucking moronic it is for each side to blame the other the way y'all do. Bush had a Democratic Congress - wanna blame, point the finger to your own side. Obama had a super majority and still didn't achieve jack shit.... wanna blame someone, point the finger at your own side.

Conclusion: The Democrats and the Republicans are fucking idiots.

Guess you missed all the filibusters and quiet compromise, then.
 

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Bullshit.

He had a super-majority. He could quite easily have passed whatever he wanted during that time. He chose not to.

I cannot tell you how fucking moronic it is for each side to blame the other the way y'all do. Bush had a Democratic Congress - wanna blame, point the finger to your own side. Obama had a super majority and still didn't achieve jack shit.... wanna blame someone, point the finger at your own side.

Conclusion: The Democrats and the Republicans are fucking idiots.

Guess you missed all the filibusters and quiet compromise, then.

Please list the filibusters that occurred while the democratics had their super majority.
 

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