In praise of Kirk, kinda.

[Frankeneinstein]

The only thing out of the ordinary about Kirk being shot was the victim.

^that^ is a confirmation of v-the post you were responding to-v

Dude, wasn't he constantly contradicting white liberals? how much more hateful, racist and misogynistic does it get?

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[MagicMike]

Speaking the truth is not hateful. If it is pointed out that blacks have a murder problem, its the truth. And without
speaking the truth, a problem can never be solved.

Speaking the truth about systemic, institutional racism that has oppressed African Americans on this continent for hundreds of years would go a long way towards "solving the problem" of disparate murder stats among inner city minorities.
But Saint Charlie didn't want to talk about that. In fact he flipped the script and called any discussion of REAL racism (critical race theory) the actual racism.
He also said the 1964 Civil Rights Act....100 years after blacks were freed in the Civil War, was "a mistake."

 

[TheGreatSatan]

To be clear, he held some really awful views and said some disturbingly provocative things. Despite this he was praised in the NYT by Ezra Klein who said.........

Charlie Kirk Was Practicing Politics the Right Way​

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/11/opinion/charlie-kirk-assassination-fear-politics.html

You can dislike much of what Kirk believed and the following statement is still true: Kirk was practicing politics in exactly the right way. He was showing up to campuses and talking with anyone who would talk to him. He was one of the era’s most effective practitioners of persuasion.
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By all means he gets points for his focus on a willingness to debate people from the other side and for the denouncement of violence. But based on things he said the flip side is he could reasonably be accused of being, or at least sounding like, a racist, a bigot, and a homophobe. And then there's his shameless promotion of the Big Lie.

Meaning his legacy is complicated.

My question being, does his advocacy of debate excuse his sometimes hateful rhetoric? Shouldn't we expect more of people in the public square? Or has it really come to this?

What is the most hateful thing Charlie said?

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

What is the most hateful thing Charlie said?

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They never quote anything he actually said.

They have fantasies about what he meant by what he said.

Make Asylums Great Again.

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[TheGreatSatan]

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They never quote anything he actually said.

They have fantasies about what he meant by what he said.

Make Asylums Great Again.

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Democrats here posted a list of things you can say that they will shoot you for.

Democrats here said if you say these things your inviting democrats to shoot you.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Democrats here posted a list of things you can say that they will shoot you for.

Democrats here said if you say these things your inviting democrats to shoot you.

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Ayep.

Never forget and be ready.

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[Mac-7]

To be clear, he held some really awful views and said some disturbingly provocative things. Despite this he was praised in the NYT by Ezra Klein who said.........

Charlie Kirk Was Practicing Politics the Right Way​

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/11/opinion/charlie-kirk-assassination-fear-politics.html

You can dislike much of what Kirk believed and the following statement is still true: Kirk was practicing politics in exactly the right way. He was showing up to campuses and talking with anyone who would talk to him. He was one of the era’s most effective practitioners of persuasion.
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By all means he gets points for his focus on a willingness to debate people from the other side and for the denouncement of violence. But based on things he said the flip side is he could reasonably be accused of being, or at least sounding like, a racist, a bigot, and a homophobe. And then there's his shameless promotion of the Big Lie.

Meaning his legacy is complicated.

My question being, does his advocacy of debate excuse his sometimes hateful rhetoric? Shouldn't we expect more of people in the public square? Or has it really come to this?

MAGA does not have a replacement for Charlie Kirk

Others can folliw in his footsteps

But there is no one that can fill his shoes at this time

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

MAGA does not have a replacement for Charlie Kirk

Others can folliw in his footsteps

But there is no one that can fill his shoes at this time

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His wife is determined to do her damn best!

And I've got $100 a month that she can use to do it.

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[Mac-7]

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His wife is determined to do her damn best!

And I've got $100 a month that she can use to do it.

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I’m sure she will do her best

But she cant be Charlie Kirk

And she has two small children that need her more than we do

 

[TheGreatSatan]

I’m sure she will do her best

But she cant be Charlie Kirk

And she has two small children that need her more than we do

All Americans are Charlie Kirk and most of maga will share his fate by 2030 if Americans fail to bring their traitors to justice.

 

[OODA_Loop]

You certainly can not like and speak out against Kirk.

You cant (or at least shouldn't be able) to say his assassination was justified because of his words and beliefs.

 

[TheGreatSatan]

You certainly can not like and speak out against Kirk.

You cant (or at least shouldn't be able) to say his assassination was justified because of his words and beliefs.

Democrats here say this list of things you can say invites Democrats to shoot you.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

I’m sure she will do her best

But she cant be Charlie Kirk

And she has two small children that need her more than we do

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I love the point about her children.

Turning Point is growing MASSIVELY as the result of the loss of Charlie.

They will do it.

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[80zephyr]

Speaking the truth about systemic, institutional racism that has oppressed African Americans on this continent for hundreds of years would go a long way towards "solving the problem" of disparate murder stats among inner city minorities.
But Saint Charlie didn't want to talk about that. In fact he flipped the script and called any discussion of REAL racism (critical race theory) the actual racism.
He also said the 1964 Civil Rights Act....100 years after blacks were freed in the Civil War, was "a mistake."

You are taking what he said out of context. For instance, Daniel Moynihan a Democratic senator issued research in 1965 claiming that the Civil Rights act would in fact harm blacks. History has proven him to be right. And Kirk agreeing with him is based on what has happened since it passed.

 

[Papageorgio]

Kirk was willing to get in the face of those who opposed him and he was very good at it.

Asking questions and having a civil debate is getting in your face? Letting people go to the front of the line if they disagreed with you is now getting in your face? The View is more in your face than Kirk ever thought of being, that said you are entitled to your opinion, even when the evidence shows otherwise.

 

[AntonToo]

The truth is not "hateful rhetoric". It simply is.

Thats a really silly comment.

Kirk said a lot of racist, partisan, wingnut bs.


If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified. - The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024

Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge. – Discussing news of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s engagement on The Charlie Kirk Show, 26 August 2025

We need to have a Nuremberg-style trial for every gender-affirming clinic doctor. We need it immediately. – The Charlie Kirk Show, 1 April 2024

The American Democrat party hates this country. They wanna see it collapse. They love it when America becomes less white. – The Charlie Kirk Show, 20 March 2024

 

[80zephyr]

Thats a really silly comment.

Kirk said a lot of partisan, Trumptard bs.

Nothing silly about truth.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Asking questions and having a civil debate is getting in your face? Letting people go to the front of the line if they disagreed with you is now getting in your face? The View is more in your face than Kirk ever thought of being, that said you are entitled to your opinion, even when the evidence shows otherwise.

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Inviting them and having them step up and take the mic is getting in their face?

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[Leo123]

To be clear, he held some really awful views and said some disturbingly provocative things. Despite this he was praised in the NYT by Ezra Klein who said.........

Charlie Kirk Was Practicing Politics the Right Way​

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/11/opinion/charlie-kirk-assassination-fear-politics.html

You can dislike much of what Kirk believed and the following statement is still true: Kirk was practicing politics in exactly the right way. He was showing up to campuses and talking with anyone who would talk to him. He was one of the era’s most effective practitioners of persuasion.
............................................................................................................................................................................................
By all means he gets points for his focus on a willingness to debate people from the other side and for the denouncement of violence. But based on things he said the flip side is he could reasonably be accused of being, or at least sounding like, a racist, a bigot, and a homophobe. And then there's his shameless promotion of the Big Lie.

Meaning his legacy is complicated.

My question being, does his advocacy of debate excuse his sometimes hateful rhetoric? Shouldn't we expect more of people in the public square? Or has it really come to this?

Kirk represented the majority of Americans. He did not say 'disturbing provocative things.' That's a Democrat/Marxist lie.

 

[AntonToo]

Kirk represented the majority of Americans.

That is false, self identifying rightwingers are about 30%

He did not say 'disturbing provocative things.' That's a Democrat/Marxist lie.

So whats this?

Charlie Kirk in his own words: ‘prowling Blacks’ and ‘the great replacement strategy’

The far-right commentator didn’t pull his punches when discussing his bigoted views on current events

www.theguardian.com

If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified. – The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024



Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more. – The Charlie Kirk Show, 19 May 2023



If I’m dealing with somebody in customer service who’s a moronic Black woman, I wonder is she there because of her excellence, or is she there because of affirmative action? – The Charlie Kirk Show, 3 January 2024



Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge. – Discussing news of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s engagement on The Charlie Kirk Show, 26 August 2025



We need to have a Nuremberg-style trial for every gender-affirming clinic doctor. We need it immediately. – The Charlie Kirk Show, 1 April 2024



The great replacement strategy, which is well under way every single day in our southern border, is a strategy to replace white rural America with something different. – The Charlie Kirk Show, 1 March 2024



The American Democrat party hates this country. They wanna see it collapse. They love it when America becomes less white.– The Charlie Kirk Show, 20 March 2024


Islam is the sword the left is using to slit the throat of America. – Charlie Kirk social media post, 8 September 2025



Yep, looks a lot like disturbing, provocative statements to me.