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The “if” is for a court to decide, but your House Clowns were too scared to go to court.If they are all invalid they can all be challenged on that basis.And the Executive Branch has the authority to challenge them, Short Bus Rider.
Not all of them in one fell swoop. That has never been done. The authority of congress to issue subpoenas is well established.If they are all invalid they can all be challenged on that basis.
Hmm...."If" is the operative word. Certainly those issued after the passage of the House resolution could not be covered by that excuse. Right?
Why?
No. The court does not need to decide what is patently false. Obviously those were not "invalid". Again, no other president has ignored every subpoena and tried to use such specious arguments to do so.
I just added another link from cbs, too.Winner!
Subpoena fight over operation Fast and Furious documents finally settled Note the date of 2019.You mean like Obama?
Name one example of where they refused to turn over anything.
Eric Holder and Obama refused to hand over any documents related to Fast and FuriousEric Holder and Obama refused to hand over any documents related to Fast and
You're a straight up liar and an idiot for lying about something so easy to refute.
Trump Wrong About Obama Documents
"In June 2012, Obama asserted executive privilege to block the transfer of some documents requested by the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. Republicans on the committee recommended that Attorney General Eric Holder be cited for contempt of Congress for failing to turn over those documents. A few months earlier, Holder said the Justice Department had already turned over 6,000 documents related to the case.
A July 31, 2012, joint staff report from the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform and the Senate Judiciary Committee notes that its review at that time was based on “more than 10,000 pages of documents, 6,989 of them produced by the Justice Department pursuant to subpoena.”
In 2014, under a court order, the Justice Department produced nearly 65,000 pages of documents related to Operation Fast and Furious that had been sought by the oversight committee. And two years later, pursuant to a federal court order, the Justice Department handed over thousands of additional pages of documents related to the case.
So it could be said that the Obama administration initially resisted turning over many documents, but it produced some, and — after court orders — it turned over tens of thousands more."
Schiff with drew the subpoena! Of cupperman .. hahahah so the courts wouldn’t rule on it hahah to funnyThat’s the process .. helloooo mcflySchiff never found out HE DIDNT FOLLOW UPThe discussion was about executive privilege, dope.The claim was the subpoenas were invalid.
Get up to speed.
EP would be invoked to the issuing body, dope.
It's not. EP is invoked to the body that issues the subpoena. Either that body accepts the exemptions and redactions or they challenge them in court.
That is the process.
Fast and FuriousYou mean like Obama?
That is not a law, dope.
From your link:
"Congressional rules empower all its standing committees with the authority to compel witnesses to produce testimony and documents for subjects under its jurisdiction. Committee rules may provide for the full committee to issue a subpoena, or permit subcommittees or the chairman (acting alone or with the ranking member) to issue subpoenas."
Who's the dope?
Is the constitution not the supreme law of the land, dope.
There's precedent and under our legal system based on English common law, precedent carries weight under the law.
This ain't France, shitforbrains. And if you need to ask about that, don't you'll just look all the more stupid.
LOL...
There's tons of precedent stating that the president must comply with congressional subpoenas as well, dope.
Name one example of where they refused to turn over anything.
And schiff didn’t go through the process ,, if he did we would have gotten thereThat’s the process .. helloooo mcflySchiff never found out HE DIDNT FOLLOW UPThe discussion was about executive privilege, dope.
EP would be invoked to the issuing body, dope.
It's not. EP is invoked to the body that issues the subpoena. Either that body accepts the exemptions and redactions or they challenge them in court.
That is the process.
Years after they were first subpoenaed and after numerous court battles.Fast and FuriousYou mean like Obama?
Who's the dope?
Is the constitution not the supreme law of the land, dope.
There's precedent and under our legal system based on English common law, precedent carries weight under the law.
This ain't France, shitforbrains. And if you need to ask about that, don't you'll just look all the more stupid.
LOL...
There's tons of precedent stating that the president must comply with congressional subpoenas as well, dope.
Name one example of where they refused to turn over anything.
Try again. 70,000 documents were released.
Winner!
Subpoena fight over operation Fast and Furious documents finally settled Note the date of 2019.You mean like Obama?
Name one example of where they refused to turn over anything.
Eric Holder and Obama refused to hand over any documents related to Fast and FuriousEric Holder and Obama refused to hand over any documents related to Fast and
You're a straight up liar and an idiot for lying about something so easy to refute.
Trump Wrong About Obama Documents
"In June 2012, Obama asserted executive privilege to block the transfer of some documents requested by the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform. Republicans on the committee recommended that Attorney General Eric Holder be cited for contempt of Congress for failing to turn over those documents. A few months earlier, Holder said the Justice Department had already turned over 6,000 documents related to the case.
A July 31, 2012, joint staff report from the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform and the Senate Judiciary Committee notes that its review at that time was based on “more than 10,000 pages of documents, 6,989 of them produced by the Justice Department pursuant to subpoena.”
In 2014, under a court order, the Justice Department produced nearly 65,000 pages of documents related to Operation Fast and Furious that had been sought by the oversight committee. And two years later, pursuant to a federal court order, the Justice Department handed over thousands of additional pages of documents related to the case.
So it could be said that the Obama administration initially resisted turning over many documents, but it produced some, and — after court orders — it turned over tens of thousands more."
That was so good! I loved it!Seckelow JUST DESTROYED SCHIFF! Lol
you said you proved your case overwhelmingly lol
I did
well no more witnesses
Honey, see post #237 then get back to us.Fast and FuriousYou mean like Obama?
Who's the dope?
Is the constitution not the supreme law of the land, dope.
There's precedent and under our legal system based on English common law, precedent carries weight under the law.
This ain't France, shitforbrains. And if you need to ask about that, don't you'll just look all the more stupid.
LOL...
There's tons of precedent stating that the president must comply with congressional subpoenas as well, dope.
Name one example of where they refused to turn over anything.
Try again. 70,000 documents were released.
Many released up front. Only those claimed under EP needed to be challenged. That's how it's supposed to work.Years after they were first subpoenaed and after numerous court battles.Fast and FuriousYou mean like Obama?
LOL...
There's tons of precedent stating that the president must comply with congressional subpoenas as well, dope.
Name one example of where they refused to turn over anything.
Try again. 70,000 documents were released.
Or just quote #237.Honey, see post #237 then get back to us.Fast and FuriousYou mean like Obama?
LOL...
There's tons of precedent stating that the president must comply with congressional subpoenas as well, dope.
Name one example of where they refused to turn over anything.
Try again. 70,000 documents were released.
That was Obama's plan, too, to hold on to t he documents until the public lost interest in fast and furious.Many released up front. Only those claimed under EP needed to be challenged. That's how it's supposed to work.Years after they were first subpoenaed and after numerous court battles.Fast and FuriousYou mean like Obama?
Name one example of where they refused to turn over anything.
Try again. 70,000 documents were released.
2 years.That's about right.
Mcgahn's case is going on a year.
Trump has not released anything and has not invoked EP. That's his play though. Run the clock.
Doesn’t matter schiff withdrew the SubpoenaAnd schiff didn’t go through the process ,, if he did we would have gotten thereThat’s the process .. helloooo mcflySchiff never found out HE DIDNT FOLLOW UP
EP would be invoked to the issuing body, dope.
It's not. EP is invoked to the body that issues the subpoena. Either that body accepts the exemptions and redactions or they challenge them in court.
That is the process.
What does the courts have to do with the WH claiming EP to the House?
LOL...That's the sleazy game Adolph Schiffler and Pelosi are playing. No vote is required because it's not an impeachment, even though Piglosi said it was an impeachment. Then when they vote on impeachment, all the testimony becomes impeachment testimony.That's because never before have they all been illegal. The House can only subpoena impeachment witnesses after a full vote of the House to start an impeachment.So any time the executive branch objects to a subpoena, then the House has cause to impeach him?The remedy is impeachment for obstruction.
No administration has refused every subpoena. Not one.
If that is not willful obstruction, I don't know what would be.
They aren't all illegal and the witnesses can't be "impeachment witnesses" when there's no impeachment proceedings.Schiff's cmte investigation obviously wasn't part of the impeachment . How could it be? They can't vote to proceed with impeachment proceedings if there is no evidence that warrants impeachment.
Your argument is that they should have opened formal impeachment proceedings to see if there was sufficient evidence to open formal impeachment proceedings.
Derp....
Also...
Obviously the subpoenas issued after the vote to open formal impeachment proceedings are not covered by your specious legal arguments either.
Who do you scumbags think you're fooling?
No, you failed to read the second link-Many released up front. Only those claimed under EP needed to be challenged. That's how it's supposed to work.Years after they were first subpoenaed and after numerous court battles.Fast and FuriousYou mean like Obama?
Name one example of where they refused to turn over anything.
Try again. 70,000 documents were released.
2 years.That's about right.
Mcgahn's case is going on a year.
Trump has not released anything and has not invoked EP. That's his play though. Run the clock.
Doesn’t matter schiff withdrew the SubpoenaAnd schiff didn’t go through the process ,, if he did we would have gotten thereThat’s the process .. helloooo mcflyEP would be invoked to the issuing body, dope.
It's not. EP is invoked to the body that issues the subpoena. Either that body accepts the exemptions and redactions or they challenge them in court.
That is the process.
What does the courts have to do with the WH claiming EP to the House?
