Imagine two school districts...

DGS49

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...both having a thousand households and, let's say a thousand kids in the range of K-12. The district borders are established by nothing more than geography, and have been the same for a couple generations.

One school district has an average household income of $50k (District A), and the other has an average household income of $150k (District B). Having no more direct information other than average household income, what else can you logically infer from that information? This is what I THINK:

  • A households are probably single parent; B households are likely to have both parents (one possibly a step-parent) under the same roof.
  • Households in A have one income, and not a very good one; in B, there is at least one "middle class" income, and probably 2.
  • A households have, on average, zero college graduates under roof; B households probably have one college grad, possibly 2.
  • A households probably don't have a car; B households probably have 2.
  • A households probably never take a "vacation"; B households regularly take vacations, possibly an occasional overseas vacation, or something "special" like a Disney World vacation.
  • A households with more than one kid probably have one bedroom for all kids; B households probably have a bedroom for each kid, or at least one for boys and one for girls.
  • The head of Household A probably has average or below average intelligence; the head of Household B probably has well-above average intelligence - in fact both parents probably have above average intelligence.
  • Kids in the A household probably get a significant gift at Christmas; Kids in the B household are showered with gifts at least twice a year.
Question: What is the likelihood that the A students will graduate from college? The B household students?

At age 40, how will be average income of the A and B students compare?

Does "race" make any difference?
 
...both having a thousand households and, let's say a thousand kids in the range of K-12. The district borders are established by nothing more than geography, and have been the same for a couple generations.

One school district has an average household income of $50k (District A), and the other has an average household income of $150k (District B). Having no more direct information other than average household income, what else can you logically infer from that information? This is what I THINK:

  • A households are probably single parent; B households are likely to have both parents (one possibly a step-parent) under the same roof.
  • Households in A have one income, and not a very good one; in B, there is at least one "middle class" income, and probably 2.
  • A households have, on average, zero college graduates under roof; B households probably have one college grad, possibly 2.
  • A households probably don't have a car; B households probably have 2.
  • A households probably never take a "vacation"; B households regularly take vacations, possibly an occasional overseas vacation, or something "special" like a Disney World vacation.
  • A households with more than one kid probably have one bedroom for all kids; B households probably have a bedroom for each kid, or at least one for boys and one for girls.
  • The head of Household A probably has average or below average intelligence; the head of Household B probably has well-above average intelligence - in fact both parents probably have above average intelligence.
  • Kids in the A household probably get a significant gift at Christmas; Kids in the B household are showered with gifts at least twice a year.
Question: What is the likelihood that the A students will graduate from college? The B household students?

At age 40, how will be average income of the A and B students compare?

Does "race" make any difference?
Who gives a shit about college...Both my sons have joined the military and are developing skills that will enable them to be successful in the job world. Of course we did send them to Catholic schools for their education, not some shitty public school, who gets indoctrinated with useless information. At my older son's school, the top student in the class, was an honor's student and he was black.....
 
So some districts are wealth and others in poverty

Your point?
 
My kids HAD to go to college. It was mandatory in my house. Nothing else no other options. Not another possible chouce. And they did. It worked great.
 
...both having a thousand households and, let's say a thousand kids in the range of K-12. The district borders are established by nothing more than geography, and have been the same for a couple generations.

One school district has an average household income of $50k (District A), and the other has an average household income of $150k (District B). Having no more direct information other than average household income, what else can you logically infer from that information? This is what I THINK:

  • A households are probably single parent; B households are likely to have both parents (one possibly a step-parent) under the same roof.
  • Households in A have one income, and not a very good one; in B, there is at least one "middle class" income, and probably 2.
  • A households have, on average, zero college graduates under roof; B households probably have one college grad, possibly 2.
  • A households probably don't have a car; B households probably have 2.
  • A households probably never take a "vacation"; B households regularly take vacations, possibly an occasional overseas vacation, or something "special" like a Disney World vacation.
  • A households with more than one kid probably have one bedroom for all kids; B households probably have a bedroom for each kid, or at least one for boys and one for girls.
  • The head of Household A probably has average or below average intelligence; the head of Household B probably has well-above average intelligence - in fact both parents probably have above average intelligence.
  • Kids in the A household probably get a significant gift at Christmas; Kids in the B household are showered with gifts at least twice a year.
Question: What is the likelihood that the A students will graduate from college? The B household students?

At age 40, how will be average income of the A and B students compare?

Does "race" make any difference?
Who gives a shit about college...Both my sons have joined the military and are developing skills that will enable them to be successful in the job world. Of course we did send them to Catholic schools for their education, not some shitty public school, who gets indoctrinated with useless information. At my older son's school, the top student in the class, was an honor's student and he was black.....

What color is he now?
 
...both having a thousand households and, let's say a thousand kids in the range of K-12. The district borders are established by nothing more than geography, and have been the same for a couple generations.

One school district has an average household income of $50k (District A), and the other has an average household income of $150k (District B). Having no more direct information other than average household income, what else can you logically infer from that information? This is what I THINK:

  • A households are probably single parent; B households are likely to have both parents (one possibly a step-parent) under the same roof.
  • Households in A have one income, and not a very good one; in B, there is at least one "middle class" income, and probably 2.
  • A households have, on average, zero college graduates under roof; B households probably have one college grad, possibly 2.
  • A households probably don't have a car; B households probably have 2.
  • A households probably never take a "vacation"; B households regularly take vacations, possibly an occasional overseas vacation, or something "special" like a Disney World vacation.
  • A households with more than one kid probably have one bedroom for all kids; B households probably have a bedroom for each kid, or at least one for boys and one for girls.
  • The head of Household A probably has average or below average intelligence; the head of Household B probably has well-above average intelligence - in fact both parents probably have above average intelligence.
  • Kids in the A household probably get a significant gift at Christmas; Kids in the B household are showered with gifts at least twice a year.
Question: What is the likelihood that the A students will graduate from college? The B household students?

At age 40, how will be average income of the A and B students compare?

Does "race" make any difference?

I totally made different assumptions about the two households than you did. Unless you live in NY or California, I am not sure why you would think something close to the median household income means all the horrible things you assumed.
 
...both having a thousand households and, let's say a thousand kids in the range of K-12. The district borders are established by nothing more than geography, and have been the same for a couple generations.

One school district has an average household income of $50k (District A), and the other has an average household income of $150k (District B). Having no more direct information other than average household income, what else can you logically infer from that information? This is what I THINK:

  • A households are probably single parent; B households are likely to have both parents (one possibly a step-parent) under the same roof.
  • Households in A have one income, and not a very good one; in B, there is at least one "middle class" income, and probably 2.
  • A households have, on average, zero college graduates under roof; B households probably have one college grad, possibly 2.
  • A households probably don't have a car; B households probably have 2.
  • A households probably never take a "vacation"; B households regularly take vacations, possibly an occasional overseas vacation, or something "special" like a Disney World vacation.
  • A households with more than one kid probably have one bedroom for all kids; B households probably have a bedroom for each kid, or at least one for boys and one for girls.
  • The head of Household A probably has average or below average intelligence; the head of Household B probably has well-above average intelligence - in fact both parents probably have above average intelligence.
  • Kids in the A household probably get a significant gift at Christmas; Kids in the B household are showered with gifts at least twice a year.
Question: What is the likelihood that the A students will graduate from college? The B household students?

At age 40, how will be average income of the A and B students compare?

Does "race" make any difference?


Race usually does not matter. Poor students are usually very poor students. This fact has long been established.
 

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