Steelplate
Bluesman
You're saying you'd vote Obama and don't believe in redistribution?
No....I vote Democrat for a different reason. I'm pro-labor. Our working class has taken a beating since the lie of "trickle down" economics became the norm. 47% of the people in this country have to accept some sort of government assistance to make ends meet in this God awfully expensive country. The vast majority of these people are working their fingers to the bone....they aren't lazy, irresponsible or feel themselves "victims".....all so some "job creator" can pocket more and more.
I don't hate rich people, I don't hate business.....but I think that the Conglomerate has run this country into the ground long enough for their personal gain. Funny how when wages and employer paid benefits were high enough...paying for government programs wasn't a problem....but now....since private sector unions have been virtually eliminated, wages have virtually stagnated since the late 70's and the cost of living has skyrocketed in the same time span.....all of a sudden those programs are "wealth redistribution"
Face it....you've been lied to by the biggest marketing campaign in the history of our nation. The campaign to make rich people richer at the expense of the rest of our citizens and as a result, the country itself.
Now, do I want government to dictate wages? No, not really.....I want these huge corporations to treat their employees well and remember the country that gave them the Freedom to become the successes they are. No one wants them to be poor, no one wants them not to succeed. They just want to raise their families without struggling so damned much.
I agree with you. The working class has taken a beating.
They've taken that beating because government has been selling them this idea that by taxing the wealthy, everybody wins.
That worked until corporations realized they were being stolen from. And since they couldn't take it out on the government, the working class took punch.
And the democrats have been continuing to sell their "everybody needs to pay their fair share" propaganda, instilling in the minds of the middle class that the businesses and the wealthy are stealing from them. When in reality it's the other way around.
Higher wages and benefits mean more. More taxable income for government to pay for programs and pay down the debt, more money in people's pockets, which in turn means more sales which means more profits, more profits means more economic growth, which means more jobs...and the cycle repeats itself.
Personally, I'd like to see a deal struck somewhere. Someone has to flinch. Like government saying to business.....IF you bring good paying jobs back home, once we start seeing the economic results of those actions....THEN we'll cut the Corporate income tax 10%. That would bring corporate income taxes down to 25%. But it can't be a token gesture that really helps no one but the Corporation....it has to be real.
I don't think they'd take the offer though, because I don't think taxes are the issue....I think they use it as an excuse. I think it's the slave labor rates that motivate them.