I'm predicting the DJIA rising 10% by Summer. Mark it down.

[RoshawnMarkwees]

You're just stupid. A waste of time.

He’s a lying sack-o-shit troll. I already put it on ignore.

 

[Wobbly]

He’s a lying sack-o-shit troll. I already put it on ignore.

Unable to defend their buffoonery, made-up numbers, and flat-out lying, the MAGAts decide to lick each other's ...
wounds.

 

[SweetTea]

I don’t know why I bother. I just have a hard time letting people like you spew so much nonsense.

I don't bet with proven liars. Too bad, because believing rising inflation is suddenly going to drop to lower than what it was before trump took office seems an easy win.

Again, the average inflation rate for 2025 will likely be lower than it was in 2024.

You are the one glorifying a tax increase, because trump told you to, dumbass.

Money into the federal coffers. What you don’t seem to understand is that much of the tariff “tax” has been paid by foreign manufacturers, thus why very little of the core inflation, less than 1/10th of a percent, can be attributed to tariffs. Tariffs are paid by foreign exporters or manufactures, US consumers or importers, or a combination of both. The US is in a very unique position of strength relative to many/most countries in the world due to the buying power of our consumers. For non-essentials, foreign manufacturers who are heavily dependent on our consumer have huge incentives to absorb at least some of these “taxes”, otherwise they lose sales. I you don’t think Target, Walmart, Amazon, etc. can demand that manufacturers absorb some of these costs then you are delusional. Start paying more attention to the PPI and the CPI numbers and learn what they mean.

So, to sum up. Yes, tariffs are a tax, but in the case of the US, much of this “tax”, which creates more government revenue, is paid by someone other than the US consumer.

Economic gibberish. And, inflation IS up from before trump's tariffs.

Again, the tariffs have had very little effect on core inflation. In fact, less than 1/10th of one percent. The trade off is a lot of money in the federal coffers, much of which the American taxpayer did not pay for.

Mostly, they didn't, until the moron you worship started tossing them around in violation of the Constitution. Since you haven't shown any gratitude so far for my pro bono, special ed efforts to help you, I'll just assign some homework: look up "Smoot-Hawley."

Smoot-Hawley in no way restricts a President from imposing tarriffs. That is nonsense. It was a law that imposed tariffs. It didn’t restrict anything. Check out Section 301 of the Trade Act of 1974. That should clear things up for you.

To retaliate for an American moron raising them and hurting the businesses of other countries. Do try to pay attention. Okay, one more stab at special ed assistance:

So let me get this straight. A tariff is a tax on the consumer only according to your elementary explanation. Countries are retaliating against the US by imposing a tax on their own consumers? Does that make any sense to you? The reason they are retaliating with “taxes” is that they know that their consumers won’t pay the majority of the taxes(tariffs) on US imports into their countries. In their estimation, it will hurt the US manufacturers more than their consumers. As explained above, that theory is far more applicable for the US, because of the power of our consumer and the dependency that foreign manufactures have on our consumer base.

So, to sum up, tariffs are a tax, in the sense that somebody is paying a premium that goes to the government, but that increase is not laid solely at the feet of the consumer, particularly in the case of the US.

Maybe this is just too much for you to comprehend, but then again, you are a Democrat.

 

[Wobbly]

I don’t know why I bother. I just have a hard time letting people like you spew so much nonsense.



Again, the average inflation rate for 2025 will likely be lower than it was in 2024.

Again? You are reduced now to sad claims that contrary to the current rise in inflation, it will magically be better someday. At least you gave up on your idiot claims of how great things are now.

Money into the federal coffers. What you don’t seem to understand is that much of the tariff “tax” has been paid by foreign manufacturers,

No, it hasn't. This is from the right-wing AEI: Literally, tariffs are paid by importers or their customs brokers. Specifically, the “Importer of Record” pays the tariff, or import duty, to Customs and Border Patrol.

Trump’s Collecting Record-High Tariffs. Who’s Paying Them?

While economists overwhelmingly conclude that high tariffs make everyone poorer, and while all taxes create distortions in the economy, nobody can state with certainty who will pay the costs of Trump’s taxes on foreign goods. Surely U.S. consumers will pay some significant portion. How much will...

www.aei.org

That's "IMPORTER of record,"

thus why very little of the core inflation, less than 1/10th of a percent, can be attributed to tariffs.

I'd ask you for a citation for this assertion, but I don't know how you would link to stuff you pull from your ass.

Tariffs are paid by foreign exporters or manufactures, US consumers or importers, or a combination of both.

From the same AEI: Undoubtedly, some large portion of Trump’s tariffs ultimately fall upon the U.S. consumer.

Smoot-Hawley in no way restricts a President from imposing tarriffs. That is nonsense. It was a law that imposed tariffs. It didn’t restrict anything. Check out Section 301 of the Trade Act of 1974. That should clear things up for you.

Sigh. I wanted you to look up Smoot-Hawley, so you could see that its protective tariffs are considered one of the major causes of the Great Rightard Depression. It is something a reasonably educated person would know without having to look it up. It takes a really poorly educated person to think a law to implement major tariffs would be something to limit them. Fortunately, you were available.

So let me get this straight. A tariff is a tax on the consumer only according to your elementary explanation.

Or, the American Enterprise Institute or any of dozens of other citations I could provide you.

Here's another: Although pass-through at the border was incomplete, our estimates indicate that U.S. consumers paid more than the government received in tariff revenue,
Who Pays for Tariffs Along the Supply Chain? Evidence from European Wine Tariffs
For the stunningly economically ignorant, NBER is THE source for economic facts.

Countries are retaliating against the US by imposing a tax on their own consumers? Does that make any sense to you? The reason they are retaliating with “taxes” is that they know that their consumers won’t pay the majority of the taxes(tariffs) on US imports into their countries. In their estimation, it will hurt the US manufacturers more than their consumers. As explained above, that theory is far more applicable for the US, because of the power of our consumer and the dependency that foreign manufactures have on our consumer base.

So, to sum up, tariffs are a tax, in the sense that somebody is paying a premium that goes to the government, but that increase is not laid solely at the feet of the consumer, particularly in the case of the US.

Maybe this is just too much for you to comprehend, but then again, you are a Democrat.

I provided facts with citations from both the MAGAty AEI and the best source there is for economic facts, NBER. You? You exhaled the flatulence from your liplock on trump's ass, failing to cite even the parts you plagiarized from those exploiting your ignorance.

 

[SweetTea]

Again? You are reduced now to sad claims that contrary to the current rise in inflation, it will magically be better someday. At least you gave up on your idiot claims of how great things are now.

Right, one month inflation numbers are meaningless.

No, it hasn't. This is from the right-wing AEI: Literally, tariffs are paid by importers or their customs brokers. Specifically, the “Importer of Record” pays the tariff, or import duty, to Customs and Border Patrol.

You have to be spoon fed information. Yes, indeed, importers are writing the check for the tariff. What I am telling you and what the data (PPI and CPI) should be telling you is that manufacturers have reduced their prices accordingly to account for a portion of the increase in tariffs.

Per your article:

Surely U.S. consumers will pay some significant portion. How much will be eaten by foreign manufacturers, distributors, U.S. manufacturers, and U.S. retailers? There’s no way to know in advance.

Guess what? We do know now. The CPI, PPI and the inflation rate don’t lie. Inflation for this month was 3.0%. It was 2.9% in Dec. when Biden left office.

From the same AEI: Undoubtedly, some large portion of Trump’s tariffs ultimately fall upon the U.S. consumer.

If so, this would be reflected in the CPI and the inflation numbers. .1 percent increase in inflation for 1 month is not indicative of this. Sorry, but the truth hurts.

I provided facts with citations from both the MAGAty AEI and the best source there is for economic facts, NBER. You? You exhaled the flatulence from your liplock on trump's ass, failing to cite even the parts you plagiarized from those exploiting your ignorance.

You will believe anything because you can’t think for yourself. Democrats love sheep.

 

[Wobbly]

Right, one month inflation numbers are meaningless.



You have to be spoon fed information. Yes, indeed, importers are writing the check for the tariff. What I am telling you and what the data (PPI and CPI) should be telling you is that manufacturers have reduced their prices accordingly to account for a portion of the increase in tariffs.

Per your article:

Surely U.S. consumers will pay some significant portion. How much will be eaten by foreign manufacturers, distributors, U.S. manufacturers, and U.S. retailers? There’s no way to know in advance.

Guess what? We do know now. The CPI, PPI and the inflation rate don’t lie. Inflation for this month was 3.0%. It was 2.9% in Dec. when Biden left office.



If so, this would be reflected in the CPI and the inflation numbers. .1 percent increase in inflation for 1 month is not indicative of this. Sorry, but the truth hurts.



You will believe anything because you can’t think for yourself. Democrats love sheep.

Nothing but illiterate excuses for why you prefer stuff you suck from trump's ass over the cited facts and data I gave you. At least you were smart enough to run like a MAGAt from them. Too much exposure to facts could have you risking MAGAt heresy, cultist.

 

[Meathead]

Nothing but illiterate excuses for why you prefer stuff you suck from trump's ass over the cited facts and data I gave you. At least you were smart enough to run like a MAGAt from them. Too much exposure to facts could have you risking MAGAt heresy, cultist.

You don't take losing very well, but then who does?

 

[Wobbly]

You don't take losing very well, but then who does?

Would you like to show the facts I lost on, or do you just one of those cheerleader MAGAts?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Maybe someday, Trump will see DJIA and GDP growth rates as good as those under Biden.

Maybe someday, Trump will get gas back down to Biden prices.

Maybe Trump will get groceries back down to Biden prices, one day.

And maybe the Sun will rise in the West, one day.

 

[Meathead]

Would you like to show the facts I lost on, or do you just one of those cheerleader MAGAts?

View attachment 1178984

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election

 

[Wobbly]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election

Tsk, a simple "no" on backing up your upsucking would have been less embarrassing than posting a link to presidential elections to deal with stock market numbers.

 

[Mashmont]

Maybe someday, Trump will see DJIA and GDP growth rates as good as those under Biden.

Trump GDP the last two quarters is 3.85% Biden's average quarter was 2.88%.

Trump DJIA has grown 11% in eight months. Biden's average growth was 3.4% lol. In other words, 1000 points more, and Trump will have eclipsed what it took the senile son of a ***** four years to do. We should be there before the end of the year, the way Trump is going.

Greatest president of all time.

 

[Meathead]

Tsk, a simple "no" on backing up your upsucking would have been less embarrassing than posting a link to presidential elections to deal with stock market numbers.

You've lost on both counts. I get it, losing is sucks but at some point you have to come to terms with why you're losing.

Your call, either way I really don't give a rat's ass.

 

[Wobbly]

You've lost on both counts. I get it, losing is sucks but at some point you have to come to terms with why you're losing.

Because nothing enhances a wimpy inanity like re-squeaking it?

Your call, either way I really don't give a rat's ass.

As demonstrated by your third weak ankle gumming on the matter?

And, your awkward cheerleading didn't even get you a pat on the head from the object of your upsucking.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Trump GDP the last two quarters is 3.85% Biden's average quarter was 2.88%.

Ah yes, the expected cherry picking from someone without a secondary education who doesnt know better.

You accidentally used one "over last quarter" rate for Trump, then compared them to year over year growth rates from 4 years of Biden.

Better luck next time.

 

[Mashmont]

Ah yes, the expected cherry picking from someone without a secondary education who doesnt know better.

You accidentally used one "over last quarter" rate for Trump, then compared them to year over year growth rates from 4 years of Biden.

Better luck next time.

"Mash, quit cherry picking Trump's best two quarters!"

You are aware Trump has served only two full quarter this term, right?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Sorry. I never imagined I'd have to explain that the 3.85% was the average rate for Trump's two quarters. Did you really think you add the two quarters together? You are also aware Trump has only been in office only two full quarters, right?

Oops, you confused yourself again. I didnt imply that.

And maybe one day Trump will see a quarter of growth like we saw under Biden.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

"Math class is tough" - Barbie

“Maff class be even worser” - Jalen

 

[Mashmont]

Oops, you confused yourself again. I didnt imply that.

And maybe one day Trump will see a quarter of growth like we saw under Biden.

Trump average GDP 3.85% > Biden average GDP 2.88%

And I notice you dropped the stock market babble. Wise move.

 

[Winco]

Again, the average inflation rate for 2025 will likely be lower than it was in 2024.

So IYO, or just provide FACTS with a link.
What was that inflation number in 2024?

What is the current YTD number in 2025?


This is an easy task.
Don't tell me to look it up myself, it's up to YOU to post the DATA.