Making kids repeat early grades.

[Woodznutz]

My older brother and younger sister both had to repeat first grade. My brother because he missed a month of school due to pneumonia. My sister because she didn't participate much in her class due to shyness. Neither ever recovered. My sister suffered depression, my brother anger. They should have made up their deficiencies in summer school so they could move ahead with their class. Hopefully this practice has ended.

 

[shockedcanadian]

My older brother and younger sister both had to repeat first grade. My brother because he missed a month of school due to pneumonia. My sister because she didn't participate much in her class due to shyness. Neither ever recovered. My sister suffered depression, my brother anger. They should have made up their deficiencies in summer school so they could move ahead with their class. Hopefully this practice has ended.

Yes, Summer school options should allow someone the opportunity to not fall back.

Here is another option I thought of long ago. If someone fails, have them sit in the next grade class 1-2 days a week and in their other lower grade 3 days a week. Have a specific catered curriculum. If they prove they can do the upper grade work and the lower grade work by half way through the year, they are permanently bumped up. Or, they continue this for the full year and re-assess at that time.

Parents play a major role in a childs failure and so many single parent households, often with uneducated parents without resources fail their kids.

DNA is important but ones social circumstances are just as important. If one has the resources they can ensure their child is educated and even tutored if needed etc.

 

[Anathema]

I don’t care what method is used so long as the child has the necessary skills to be at the grade level they are attending in September. If they can’t do Grade X work, they need to be in Grade X-1. It’s not a difficult concept.

If you don’t want your kids held back, get involved sufficiently to ensure your kid is at grade level at the end of the year.

 

[Woodznutz]

Yes, Summer school options should allow someone the opportunity to not fall back.

Here is another option I thought of long ago. If someone fails, have them sit in the next grade class 1-2 days a week and in their other lower grade 3 days a week. Have a specific catered curriculum. If they prove they can do the upper grade work and the lower grade work by half way through the year, they are permanently bumped up. Or, they continue this for the full year and re-assess at that time.

Parents play a major role in a childs failure and so many single parent households, often with uneducated parents without resources fail their kids.

DNA is important but ones social circumstances are just as important. If one has the resources they can ensure their child is educated and even tutored if needed etc.

My sister had a near photographic mind. She rarely spoke but listened to everything. The school never sat her down and talked to her about anything. They repeated her because she didn't participate, not because she didn't know what was going on in her class.

My brother 'compensated' for the rest of his school days out of fear of being repeated by achieving 'honor roll' grades in nearly every report period thereafter. He also read constantly building a knowledge base far ahead of his contemporaries.

 

[1srelluc]

LOL....I failed 3rd grade and I was better off for it.....I did much better in the following years....As an extra added bonus it kept me out of the draft.....Thanks Mrs. Stein.

 

[Anathema]

Here is another option I thought of long ago. If someone fails, have them sit in the next grade class 1-2 days a week and in their other lower grade 3 days a week. Have a specific catered curriculum. If they prove they can do the upper grade work and the lower grade work by half way through the year, they are permanently bumped up. Or, they continue this for the full year and re-assess at that time.

The problem with that concept, as unique and interesting as it it’s happens to be what happens when the student is not able to catch up with the previous year’s work or the current grade level work. Now at the end of the heart of have a student who is TWO years behind.

 

[Woodznutz]

I don’t care what method is used so long as the child has the necessary skills to be at the grade level they are attending in September. If they can’t do Grade X work, they need to be in Grade X-1. It’s not a difficult concept.

If you don’t want your kids held back, get involved sufficiently to ensure your kid is at grade level at the end of the year.

To my knowledge our parents had no idea of my brother's and sister's status until they were told they would be repeated.

 

[shockedcanadian]

The problem with that concept, as unique and interesting as it it’s happens to be what happens when the student is not able to catch up with the previous year’s work or the current grade level work. Now at the end of the heart of have a student who is TWO years behind.

Well, you can have a weighted system for their overall grade. If they are spending 40% of their week doing the next years work, and say, obtain a 55% average, you can extrapolate that as being worth, I don't know, an 80% or something for their current years grade.

All they would need to do is maintain a 40% in their current year.

It is sad I am even thinking in such low expectations but it seems for a number of reasons be it distractions, lost interest, social media, video games, kids do not have the discipline to learn and more and more what they learn is increasingly inconsequential with the advent of A.I.

 

[Mashmont]

My older brother and younger sister both had to repeat first grade. My brother because he missed a month of school due to pneumonia. My sister because she didn't participate much in her class due to shyness. Neither ever recovered. My sister suffered depression, my brother anger. They should have made up their deficiencies in summer school so they could move ahead with their class. Hopefully this practice has ended.

I have long thought it harms children, making them feel stupid for life. And kids are merciless. I had a friend who moved to my town from another state. His parents started him in eighth grade, but felt he needed another year to catch up. At the pool one summer, some kids were chanting "Eighth grade flunkee. Eighth grade flunkee".

 

[Woodznutz]

LOL....I failed 3rd grade and I was better off for it.....I did much better in the following years....As an extra added bonus it kept me out of the draft.....Thanks Mrs. Stein.

I had behavior problems in third grade. My teacher passed me to get rid of me.

 

[Thinker101]

My older brother and younger sister both had to repeat first grade. My brother because he missed a month of school due to pneumonia. My sister because she didn't participate much in her class due to shyness. Neither ever recovered. My sister suffered depression, my brother anger. They should have made up their deficiencies in summer school so they could move ahead with their class. Hopefully this practice has ended.

I'm all for holding students back if they're unable to keep up with the standards. Being held back due to shyness sounds like quite a stretch. Unfortunately, due to current "standards", holding kids back would be considered racist.

 

[Anathema]

To my knowledge our parents had no idea of my brother's and sister's status until they were told they would be repeated.

With full respect to your parents; then they weren’t involved enough in what their children were doing in class.

I have two younger brothers. We’ve joked that the teachers throughout the school systemcelebrated every year when we moved out of their classes because my parents (both former educators themselves) rarely went more than two weeks without requesting updates an progress reports for each of us.

 

[Woodznutz]

Well, you can have a weighted system for their overall grade. If they are spending 40% of their week doing the next years work, and say, obtain a 55% average, you can extrapolate that as being worth, I don't know, an 80% or something for their current years grade.

All they would need to do is maintain a 40% in their current year.

It is sad I am even thinking in such low expectations but it seems for a number of reasons be it distractions, lost interest, social media, video games, kids do not have the discipline to learn and more and more what they learn is increasingly inconsequential with the advent of A.I.

One of the problems was the "pass/fail" grading system. There was no wiggle room. What would have been a "D" student was considered a failure.