I'm predicting the DJIA rising 10% by Summer. Mark it down.

[Wobbly]

Hey Wobbly , can you show the numbers and the dates used, like with a DOW graph, to show how you got 16.77%

Nope. I misread one of my citations. I was off by 5 percentage points. Biden's market was not as much better than trump's, only some better.

 

[odanny]

I made more money under Biden, but that was a direct result of my choices in my brokerage account. I have no idea what a managed fund would have done because I was not in one. In fairness, my stocks crushed under Trump as well, but my investments were different under Trump and the stocks I held under Biden and did not own with Trump's 1st term.

I made a lot of money under emerging green energy stocks, and I knew with 100% certainty that a Republican would come along and blowtorch all those companies someday, and I correctly predicted it would be Trump. I was quick to divest when the winds changed.

While the cult cheers the recent market upswing, they remain oblivious, as usual, to Trump's track record as conman, grifter, and his numerous bankruptcies. They are quite content to keep believing in their false prophet, and will someday understand what I'm saying about him, at least in terms of their investments. I'll also be quick to divest, hopefully in time.

 

[Andrew_Jackson_FTW]

trump was behind about half of the covid stimulus spending. It was needed to avoid the Depression that would have been the result of his inept, political response to that medical emergency.

Trump signs $2.3T relief, spending package​

Trump signs $2.3T relief, spending package

President Trump on Sunday signed the government funding and coronavirus relief package, the White House said, averting a government shutdown and delivering economic aid as the pandem…

thehill.com

Biden's market was better than the market under trump now, no matter how much illiterate gibberish you spew or how clumsily you deflect from NOW.

No we still need to wait three more years. And the markets are doing well this year under Trump so far.

What we do know so far is at the markets have performed better under Trump compared to Biden. That’s just the facts over whatever sort of partisan politics you’re bringing up.

The numbers have already been shown. Here it is yet again. Look there’s nothing you can do about this. These are the raw numbers. So go ahead accuse me of posting gibberish all you want. That’s all you can do is type words you cannot actually show data to say that the markets have performed better under Biden compared to Trump. Maybe you can say that three years from now. Only time will tell.

 

[Wobbly]

No we still need to wait three more years. And the markets are doing well this year under Trump so far.

Unless one is capable of seeing the graph you don't understand shows stagnant growth, even during your cherry-picked time period.

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What we do know so far is at the markets have performed better under Trump compared to Biden. That’s just the facts over whatever sort of partisan politics you’re bringing up.

The numbers have already been shown. Here it is yet again. Look there’s nothing you can do about this. These are the raw numbers. So go ahead accuse me of posting gibberish all you want. That’s all you can do is type words you cannot actually show data to say that the markets have performed better under Biden compared to Trump. Maybe you can say that three years from now. Only time will tell.
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You don't think citing trump's first term instead of his current one is relying too heavily on the stupidity of your fellow MAGAts?

 

[SweetTea]

You don't think citing trump's first term instead of his current one is relying too heavily on the stupidity of your fellow MAGAts?

Yeah, the indices are doing so terrible. According to you self-appointed brainiacs, the markets and the economy was supposed to be dead well before now with the tariffs and all. The reality is, all-time highs are being hit. Face it, you are a victim of leftist economists who can’t bring themselves to admit that Trump has been right and they have been wrong. It just kills them. Their flock blindly follows along.

 

[Wobbly]

Yeah, the indices are doing so terrible. According to you self-appointed brainiacs, the markets and the economy was supposed to be dead well before now with the tariffs and all.

Congratulations on building a straw man so small you could almost beat it up.

The reality is, all-time highs are being hit.

The stock market is often at an "all-time high." For example by this time last year (under Biden) the market hit record highs eleven times. It increased by 5000 points. It's hit record highs only four times under trump, and then not until August. It has increased by 2000 points under trump, less than half of the increase under Biden. Closing milestones of the Dow Jones Industrial Average - Wikipedia

Face it, you are a victim of leftist economists who can’t bring themselves to admit that Trump has been right and they have been wrong. It just kills them. Their flock blindly follows along.

Yeah, it's just terrible how educated people are always ruining MAGAt self-pity parties with facts and data vs. what you swallow from your lip-lock on trump's fat ass.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Yeah, it's just terrible how educated people are always ruining MAGAt self-pity parties with facts and data

Yeah, Paul Krugman is always right.

DURR

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Considering how currency values impact stock values, it’s no surprise that stock values would increase under Biden/democrats with all of that Covid money-printing going on.
That means that stock values that increase during times of low or zero inflation (Trump) would reflect actual growth exponentially more than when intense inflation (Biden/democrats) is present.

 

[SweetTea]

Yeah, it's just terrible how educated people are always ruining MAGAt self-pity parties with facts and data vs. what you swallow from your lip-lock on trump's fat ass.

The problem for you is that I am educated. I'm also able to think for myself. I didn't just blindly accept what I was told to think in college.

 

[Wobbly]

The problem for you is that I am educated. I'm also able to think for myself. I didn't just blindly accept what I was told to think in college.

Is all that education the reason you did this bit of hissing and spitting, rather than even try to back up your buffoonery?

 

[SweetTea]

Is all that education the reason you did this bit of hissing and spitting, rather than even try to back up your buffoonery?

What buffuonery would that be? Do you mean pointing out the fact that economists have been floundering in ideology instead of actual economics of late? I have read people on this board regurgitating the nonsense that have heard on the news and their idealistic professors for years. The latest example is the inevitable crash due to tariffs. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad. Meanwhile, I continue to make money in the markets.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Is all that education the reason you did this bit of hissing and spitting, rather than even try to back up your buffoonery?

You didn’t respond to my post which addresses what you parroted.

 

[Wobbly]

What buffuonery would that be? Do you mean pointing out the fact that economists have been floundering in ideology instead of actual economics of late?

No, the fact that you claimed the stock market has been great under trump, and then ran like a MAGAt from that and your claim that economists have been wrong about something, after I posted the actual data.

I have read people on this board regurgitating the nonsense that have heard on the news and their idealistic professors for years. The latest example is the inevitable crash due to tariffs. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

Would you like to point to something you've regurgitated that was substantive analysis, or would you prefer to continue to hope that empty bluster will camouflage your retreat?

Meanwhile, I continue to make money in the markets.

And, on weekends, you're an astronaut!

 

[Wobbly]

You didn’t respond to my post which addresses what you parroted.

I don't respond to every batch of empty assertions every MAGAt bluffs. What I "parroted" had data with citations. Let's look at what you drooled:

Considering how currency values impact stock values, it’s no surprise that stock values would increase under Biden/democrats with all of that Covid money-printing going on.

You meant to say that inflation effects how stock prices are measured comparatively, but you stumbled over your pretentiousness. That would be relevant in a discussion of comparative prices, but there was no such discussion. There was a destruction of another MAGAt's empty assertions about the trump market setting records. BTW, inflation is higher now than it was a year ago, which would make the trump market prices look better than it is.
As for the Biden spending on covid, about half of the spending was done under trump, poorly informed blowhard.

President Trump on Sunday signed the government funding and coronavirus relief package, the White House said, averting a government shutdown and delivering economic aid as the pandemic worsens.
Trump signed off on the $2.3 trillion package from his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Fla., days after he expressed displeasure with the spending outlined in the omnibus and complained that the coronavirus relief measure should include direct payments of $2,000 per person, up from $600.

Trump signs $2.3T relief, spending package

President Trump on Sunday signed the government funding and coronavirus relief package, the White House said, averting a government shutdown and delivering economic aid as the pandem…

thehill.com

Again, the blue part is a citation of facts, as opposed to the preferred MAGAtry of empty assertions. And, in trump's defense, those less easily suckered than you understand it was needed to avoid an imminent depression that would have resulted from trump's policy of dealing with covid with "It will be gone by spring."

AND, Biden's relief package was $1.9 trillion, $400 million than trump's previous and usual inadequacy.

American Rescue Plan Act of 2021 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

That means that stock values that increase during times of low or zero inflation (Trump)

One year ago, the inflation rate was 2.6%. It is 3% now.
Current US Inflation Rates: 2000-2025 Current U.S. Inflation Rate is 3.0%: Why It Matters - NerdWallet
Are you hoping that you can pile bullshit faster than honest people can shovel it away? Oh, again, the blue part is a link/citation. It's what people who know things do when arguing with a bluffing MAGAt who prefers to pull empty assertions from his ass. Okay, trump's ass actually, I suppose.

would reflect actual growth exponentially

Again, you are blathering pretentious economic illiteracy. An exponential growth would have the stock market EXPONENTIALLY higher than it is today, instead of the modest growth we've seen under trump. An exponential growth would require a market at least twice as high as it is now. You might want to look up the definition of "exponentially," and ask a reasonably literate third grader to help you with the big words.

more than when intense inflation (Biden/democrats) is present.

Again, easily suckered regurgitator, inflation is higher now than it was a year ago. But do tell us again how you are an independent thinker.

 

[SweetTea]

No, the fact that you claimed the stock market has been great under trump, and then ran like a MAGAt from that and your claim that economists have been wrong about something, after I posted the actual data.

Would you like to point to something you've regurgitated that was substantive analysis, or would you prefer to continue to hope that empty bluster will camouflage your retreat?

And, on weekends, you're an astronaut!

You aren't making money in this market?

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

I don't respond to every batch of empty assertions every MAGAt bluffs. What I "parroted" had data with citations. Let's look at what you drooled:

You meant to say that inflation effects how stock prices are measured comparatively, but you stumbled over your pretentiousness. That would be relevant in a discussion of comparative prices, but there was no such discussion. There was a destruction of another MAGAt's empty assertions about the trump market setting records. BTW, inflation is higher now than it was a year ago, which would make the trump market prices look better than it is.
As for the Biden spending on covid, about half of the spending was done under trump, poorly informed blowhard.

President Trump on Sunday signed the government funding and coronavirus relief package, the White House said, averting a government shutdown and delivering economic aid as the pandemic worsens.
Trump signed off on the $2.3 trillion package from his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach, Fla., days after he expressed displeasure with the spending outlined in the omnibus and complained that the coronavirus relief measure should include direct payments of $2,000 per person, up from $600.

Trump signs $2.3T relief, spending package

President Trump on Sunday signed the government funding and coronavirus relief package, the White House said, averting a government shutdown and delivering economic aid as the pandem…

thehill.com

Again, the blue part is a citation of facts, as opposed to the preferred MAGAtry of empty assertions. And, in trump's defense, those less easily suckered than you understand it was needed to avoid an imminent depression that would have resulted from trump's policy of dealing with covid with "It will be gone by spring."

AND, Biden's relief package was $1.9 trillion, $400 million than trump's previous and usual inadequacy.

American Rescue Plan Act of 2021 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

One year ago, the inflation rate was 2.6%. It is 3% now.
Current US Inflation Rates: 2000-2025 Current U.S. Inflation Rate is 3.0%: Why It Matters - NerdWallet
Are you hoping that you can pile bullshit faster than honest people can shovel it away? Oh, again, the blue part is a link/citation. It's what people who know things do when arguing with a bluffing MAGAt who prefers to pull empty assertions from his ass. Okay, trump's ass actually, I suppose.

Again, you are blathering pretentious economic illiteracy. An exponential growth would have the stock market EXPONENTIALLY higher than it is today, instead of the modest growth we've seen under trump. An exponential growth would require a market at least twice as high as it is now. You might want to look up the definition of "exponentially," and ask a reasonably literate third grader to help you with the big words.

Again, easily suckered regurgitator, inflation is higher now than it was a year ago. But do tell us again how you are an independent thinker.

Inflation is nowhere near where it was during Biden’s inflation fiasco. He unnecessarily carried the money printing for another year which drove the value of the currency and consequently stock value down. That made the numbers during Biden compared to Trump 47 inflated, superficial.
It’s way simpler than your convoluted pretentiousness suggests.

 

[Wobbly]

Inflation is nowhere near where it was during Biden’s inflation fiasco.

Again. I provided citations for my assertions. You exhale trump flatulence

He unnecessarily carried the money printing for another year which drove the value of the currency and consequently stock value down.

Gibberish. Interesting that you are so ignorant you think the government actually prints money to increase money supply, though.

That made the numbers during Biden compared to Trump 47 inflated, superficial.

Except for the part where I proved that inflation is higher now than a year ago vs. your strategery of believing repeating bullshit somehow validates it.

It’s way simpler than your convoluted pretentiousness suggests.

I see my comments on your pretentious gibberish hit home enough to inspire you to launch a mighty, "I know you are, but what am I?" Sic 'em, Pee Wee.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Again. I provided citations for my assertions. You exhale trump flatulence

Gibberish. Interesting that you are so ignorant you think the government actually prints money to increase money supply, though.

Except for the part where I proved that inflation is higher now than a year ago vs. your strategery of believing repeating bullshit somehow validates it.

I see my comments on your pretentious gibberish hit home enough to inspire you to launch a mighty, "I know you are, but what am I?" Sic 'em, Pee Wee.

Biden cut the pie into more pieces, Trump baked more pie.
Stock Values for Dummies (and pretentious phonies like you).

 

[Wobbly]

You aren't making money in this market?

Were you hoping that would deflect from the way you are running from your claim of a great trumpy market?

 

[Wobbly]

Biden cut the pie into more pieces, Trump baked more pie.
Stock Values for Dummies (and pretentious phonies like you).

More gibberish, and a hope that repeating a wimpy I-know-you-are would somehow redeem the first wimpiness.

I've provided data with citations. You've baked magical pies to support your faith-based understanding of Economics.