Illegals are the future of democrat party power

[OldFlame]

How many?

Why is that important? So if someone can't state an exact number, it's not true?

 

[rightwinger]

When you claim that there's no reason for concern regarding illegals being counted in the census, it's the same as delegitimizing that reason for them to be removed.

14th Amendment

Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.

Persons not citizens

 

[OldFlame]

I didn't say that.

Yes you did. You said that most illegals avoid the census. Let's play your game, how many?

 

[BlindBoo]

But citizens and N-O-N-citizens are ALL counted every 10 years for the US Census.

And the US Census is what determines the number of Congressional Districts to be established for the coming decade.

And, if Democrats control the geographic area comprising a District then they hold that much more power in the House.

Example:

• An Illegals-heavy geographic-census area has 750,000 souls
• Of those, 150,000 are Illegals
• Only 100,000 of the 750,00 total actually vote
• It's an area Republicans have largely abandoned and only Democrats remain in any numbers
• By counting those 150,000 Illegals the Dems obtained an extra Congressional seat rather than merging with another area

For several decades Republican rank-and-file never quite "got it" nor understood this insidious partisan gambit.

That's changed.

That's why Operation ******* II is underway.

The head-counts in 2030 are going to be quite different than they were in 2020.

Does the census determine voting district boundaries' or does the party in power mostly determine those?

 

[Unkotare]

Why is that important? So if someone can't state an exact number, it's not true?

When someone says "many" it's a legitimate question.

 

[rightwinger]

And how would anyone know that if they are legally registered, they walk into the polling station, their name is on the rolls? What stops that person from voting?

It is up to the County Registrar to verify if a person registering is legal or not before they are added to voter rolls

 

[OldFlame]

Our borders have historically been open to migrant workers.
Illegals don’t vote

Prove me wrong

Migrant workers are worker here temporarily and return to their home country.

 

[Unkotare]

...You said that most illegals avoid the census. ...

Which is not what you claimed I said. Also, I don't recall using the word "most," but you can have that one.

 

[OldFlame]

What Benefits Are Illegal Immigrants Eligible For?

Understand the legal framework for public benefits, which balances federal restrictions with critical exceptions and varied state-level assistance.

legalclarity.org

"General Ineligibility for Federal Benefits

Federal law, primarily the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996 (PRWORA), makes individuals without a “qualified” immigration status ineligible for most major federal benefit programs. This prohibition means undocumented immigrants cannot access a wide range of federally funded, means-tested assistance intended to support low-income families and individuals."

So you're claiming that they don't receive any federal benefits at all?

 

[Unkotare]

So you're claiming that they don't receive any federal benefits at all?

Read the link.

 

[OldFlame]

So......3?

That we know of.

 

[OldFlame]

Again the issue is illegals voting
Many people who reside here are legal but not citizens

Most of these cases turn out to be someone given a voter registration form and mistakenly believing they can vote. It is extremely rare and the fault of lazy county registrars

Or corrupt county registrars who allow them to slip by.

 

[rightwinger]

Or corrupt county registrars who allow them to slip by.

Hard to argue with Stupid People

When pressed, they just invent wild conspiracies to support their claims

 

[OldFlame]

When someone says "many" it's a legitimate question.

Corruption and fraud are rampant, and when you only need a few thousand extra votes in heavy D controlled districts, there should be no way for them to register at all, let alone vote. And that is not the case, especially if they are being offered money to do so.

 

[OldFlame]

It is up to the County Registrar to verify if a person registering is legal or not before they are added to voter rolls

Exactly, a country registrar could be you, for example, corrupt enough to allow it to happen or paid to look the other way.

 

[Unkotare]

Corruption and fraud are rampant...

"Rampant" is not a number.

 

[OldFlame]

Read the link.

So is your point that if illegals aren't counted in the census, don't result in more D reps in Congress, don't get any American tax payer dollars, don't vote in elections, and will never eventually become citizens where they will be able to vote, then there is no reason to not just allow them to stay and to allow millions more in?

 

[rightwinger]

Exactly, a country registrar could be you, for example, corrupt enough to allow it to happen or paid to look the other way.

Hard to argue with stupid people
They just make up conspiracies when they don’t have facts

 

[Unkotare]

...And that is not the case, especially if they are being offered money to do so.

It would have to be a lot of money to offset the desire not to be arrested and deported. Seems a lot cheaper and easier for democrats to just fudge the vote count like they always do.

 

[MarcATL]

Democrats can only win in states with no ID laws.

Yeah, that's the ticket...