Illegal border crossings from Mexico down 40%

[toomuchtime_]

A tweet here, an tweet there and would be illegal immigrants get the word that the should stay away from the US.

"Illegal Southwest border crossings were down 40% last month, according to just released Customs and Border Protection numbers — a sign that President Donald Trump’s hardline rhetoric and policies on immigration may be having a deterrent effect.

Secretary of Homeland Security John Kelly himself announced the month-to-month numbers, statistics that CBP usually quietly posts on its website without fanfare.

According to CBP data, the 40% drop in illegal Southwest border crossings from January to February is far outside normal seasonal trends. Typically, the January to February change is actually an increase of 10% to 20%.

The drop breaks a nearly 20-year trend, as CBP data going back to 2000 shows an uptick in apprehensions every February.

The number of apprehensions and inadmissible individuals presenting at the border was 18,762 people in February, down from 31,578 in January.

It will still take months to figure out if the decrease in apprehensions is an indication of a lasting Trump effect on immigration patterns. Numbers tend to decrease seasonally in the winter and increase into the spring months.

But the sharp downtick after an uptick at the end of the Obama administration could fit the narrative that it takes tough rhetoric on immigration — backed up by policy — to get word-of-mouth warnings to undocumented immigrants making the harrowing journey to the border."

Illegal border crossings down 40 percent in February: Trump administration

 

[frigidweirdo]

A tweet here, an tweet there and would be illegal immigrants get the word that the should stay away from the US.

"Illegal Southwest border crossings were down 40% last month, according to just released Customs and Border Protection numbers — a sign that President Donald Trump’s hardline rhetoric and policies on immigration may be having a deterrent effect.

Secretary of Homeland Security John Kelly himself announced the month-to-month numbers, statistics that CBP usually quietly posts on its website without fanfare.

According to CBP data, the 40% drop in illegal Southwest border crossings from January to February is far outside normal seasonal trends. Typically, the January to February change is actually an increase of 10% to 20%.

The drop breaks a nearly 20-year trend, as CBP data going back to 2000 shows an uptick in apprehensions every February.

The number of apprehensions and inadmissible individuals presenting at the border was 18,762 people in February, down from 31,578 in January.

It will still take months to figure out if the decrease in apprehensions is an indication of a lasting Trump effect on immigration patterns. Numbers tend to decrease seasonally in the winter and increase into the spring months.

But the sharp downtick after an uptick at the end of the Obama administration could fit the narrative that it takes tough rhetoric on immigration — backed up by policy — to get word-of-mouth warnings to undocumented immigrants making the harrowing journey to the border."

Illegal border crossings down 40 percent in February: Trump administration

Or perhaps Trump has realized that he can fiddle the statistics.

 

[frigidweirdo]

https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/cbp-southwest-border-total-apps-graph-20170308.png

They were at this level in December 2012, and no one slapped Obama on the back for his tough policies that stopped such figures. The fact that the level went up to a high, just like they did May-June 2014 helped this dip. There was a dip after May-June 2014 that went down to to 30,000 by January 2015.

In fact February is a low month, every year has seen an increase in March except 2012.

This could very well just be a natural cycle of things.

 

[Doc1]

Throw a few 50 cals out there and it'll be zero.

 

[toomuchtime_]

https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/cbp-southwest-border-total-apps-graph-20170308.png

They were at this level in December 2012, and no one slapped Obama on the back for his tough policies that stopped such figures. The fact that the level went up to a high, just like they did May-June 2014 helped this dip. There was a dip after May-June 2014 that went down to to 30,000 by January 2015.

In fact February is a low month, every year has seen an increase in March except 2012.

This could very well just be a natural cycle of things.

In fact, in every previous year, the numbers increased in Feb., but this year they dropped. Clearly, President Trump is succeeding where Obama had failed.

 

[frigidweirdo]

https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/cbp-southwest-border-total-apps-graph-20170308.png

They were at this level in December 2012, and no one slapped Obama on the back for his tough policies that stopped such figures. The fact that the level went up to a high, just like they did May-June 2014 helped this dip. There was a dip after May-June 2014 that went down to to 30,000 by January 2015.

In fact February is a low month, every year has seen an increase in March except 2012.

This could very well just be a natural cycle of things.

In fact, in every previous year, the numbers increased in Feb., but this year they dropped. Clearly, President Trump is succeeding where Obama had failed.

But then again when the figures rose to 68,000 in 2014, the two years previously had seen a drop at this time.

Basically the statistics don't show enough to show what is happening.

 

[toomuchtime_]

https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/cbp-southwest-border-total-apps-graph-20170308.png

They were at this level in December 2012, and no one slapped Obama on the back for his tough policies that stopped such figures. The fact that the level went up to a high, just like they did May-June 2014 helped this dip. There was a dip after May-June 2014 that went down to to 30,000 by January 2015.

In fact February is a low month, every year has seen an increase in March except 2012.

This could very well just be a natural cycle of things.

In fact, in every previous year, the numbers increased in Feb., but this year they dropped. Clearly, President Trump is succeeding where Obama had failed.

But then again when the figures rose to 68,000 in 2014, the two years previously had seen a drop at this time.

Basically the statistics don't show enough to show what is happening.

In interviews with migrants, their advocates, and workers at shelters and soup kitchens in Mexico, the United States and Central America, few quibbled with the idea that President Trump had altered the climate for immigration.

Indeed, it was clear that the ground had shifted on both sides of the border, and that the well-traveled route north to a better life had suddenly grown quieter, riskier and more desperate.

Since January, occupancy at one shelter in Nuevo Laredo, across the border from Laredo, Tex., has fallen by about two-thirds, according to its director, Aarón Méndez Ruiz. Other shelters in the United States and Mexico reported significant drops as well.

Six Central Americans staying at Mr. Méndez’s shelter voluntarily surrendered to the Mexican authorities so they could be sent back home, he said, and about 40 more chose to return on their own.

“That had never happened,” Mr. Méndez said. “People don’t return.”

In the Arizona desert, where blue flags flying 30 feet in the air mark where volunteers have left drums full of water, “there have been more water stations with no water use than usual,” said Stephen Saltonstall of the aid group Humane Borders.

Last week, Ruben Garcia, the director of the Annunciation House, a shelter in El Paso, noticed that far fewer Central Americans were arriving than he was used to seeing. He asked those who did show up why that was.

“One hundred percent verbalized some version of, ‘Your president,’” Mr. Garcia said."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/10/us/trump-immigration-border.html

Everyone except for a few frustrated Democrats seems to understand this is the result of President Trump's firm policy on illegal immigration.

 

[frigidweirdo]

https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/cbp-southwest-border-total-apps-graph-20170308.png

They were at this level in December 2012, and no one slapped Obama on the back for his tough policies that stopped such figures. The fact that the level went up to a high, just like they did May-June 2014 helped this dip. There was a dip after May-June 2014 that went down to to 30,000 by January 2015.

In fact February is a low month, every year has seen an increase in March except 2012.

This could very well just be a natural cycle of things.

In fact, in every previous year, the numbers increased in Feb., but this year they dropped. Clearly, President Trump is succeeding where Obama had failed.

But then again when the figures rose to 68,000 in 2014, the two years previously had seen a drop at this time.

Basically the statistics don't show enough to show what is happening.

In interviews with migrants, their advocates, and workers at shelters and soup kitchens in Mexico, the United States and Central America, few quibbled with the idea that President Trump had altered the climate for immigration.

Indeed, it was clear that the ground had shifted on both sides of the border, and that the well-traveled route north to a better life had suddenly grown quieter, riskier and more desperate.

Since January, occupancy at one shelter in Nuevo Laredo, across the border from Laredo, Tex., has fallen by about two-thirds, according to its director, Aarón Méndez Ruiz. Other shelters in the United States and Mexico reported significant drops as well.

Six Central Americans staying at Mr. Méndez’s shelter voluntarily surrendered to the Mexican authorities so they could be sent back home, he said, and about 40 more chose to return on their own.

“That had never happened,” Mr. Méndez said. “People don’t return.”

In the Arizona desert, where blue flags flying 30 feet in the air mark where volunteers have left drums full of water, “there have been more water stations with no water use than usual,” said Stephen Saltonstall of the aid group Humane Borders.

Last week, Ruben Garcia, the director of the Annunciation House, a shelter in El Paso, noticed that far fewer Central Americans were arriving than he was used to seeing. He asked those who did show up why that was.

“One hundred percent verbalized some version of, ‘Your president,’” Mr. Garcia said."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/10/us/trump-immigration-border.html

Everyone except for a few frustrated Democrats seems to understand this is the result of President Trump's firm policy on illegal immigration.

And time will tell if this remains, or if the Mexicans suddenly start calling his bluff, or just find new ways of getting in. Maybe these people are more likely to go somewhere else to get in.

 

[toomuchtime_]

https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/cbp-southwest-border-total-apps-graph-20170308.png

They were at this level in December 2012, and no one slapped Obama on the back for his tough policies that stopped such figures. The fact that the level went up to a high, just like they did May-June 2014 helped this dip. There was a dip after May-June 2014 that went down to to 30,000 by January 2015.

In fact February is a low month, every year has seen an increase in March except 2012.

This could very well just be a natural cycle of things.

In fact, in every previous year, the numbers increased in Feb., but this year they dropped. Clearly, President Trump is succeeding where Obama had failed.

But then again when the figures rose to 68,000 in 2014, the two years previously had seen a drop at this time.

Basically the statistics don't show enough to show what is happening.

In interviews with migrants, their advocates, and workers at shelters and soup kitchens in Mexico, the United States and Central America, few quibbled with the idea that President Trump had altered the climate for immigration.

Indeed, it was clear that the ground had shifted on both sides of the border, and that the well-traveled route north to a better life had suddenly grown quieter, riskier and more desperate.

Since January, occupancy at one shelter in Nuevo Laredo, across the border from Laredo, Tex., has fallen by about two-thirds, according to its director, Aarón Méndez Ruiz. Other shelters in the United States and Mexico reported significant drops as well.

Six Central Americans staying at Mr. Méndez’s shelter voluntarily surrendered to the Mexican authorities so they could be sent back home, he said, and about 40 more chose to return on their own.

“That had never happened,” Mr. Méndez said. “People don’t return.”

In the Arizona desert, where blue flags flying 30 feet in the air mark where volunteers have left drums full of water, “there have been more water stations with no water use than usual,” said Stephen Saltonstall of the aid group Humane Borders.

Last week, Ruben Garcia, the director of the Annunciation House, a shelter in El Paso, noticed that far fewer Central Americans were arriving than he was used to seeing. He asked those who did show up why that was.

“One hundred percent verbalized some version of, ‘Your president,’” Mr. Garcia said."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/10/us/trump-immigration-border.html

Everyone except for a few frustrated Democrats seems to understand this is the result of President Trump's firm policy on illegal immigration.

And time will tell if this remains, or if the Mexicans suddenly start calling his bluff, or just find new ways of getting in. Maybe these people are more likely to go somewhere else to get in.

There is no bluff. If they do get in here one way of another, they now believe they will be sent right back. In a short time, the pressure will be on for states to use E-verify before allowing people to find work or receive health, education or welfare benefits, and life in the US will be much less desirable for illegals.

 

[frigidweirdo]

https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/cbp-southwest-border-total-apps-graph-20170308.png

They were at this level in December 2012, and no one slapped Obama on the back for his tough policies that stopped such figures. The fact that the level went up to a high, just like they did May-June 2014 helped this dip. There was a dip after May-June 2014 that went down to to 30,000 by January 2015.

In fact February is a low month, every year has seen an increase in March except 2012.

This could very well just be a natural cycle of things.

In fact, in every previous year, the numbers increased in Feb., but this year they dropped. Clearly, President Trump is succeeding where Obama had failed.

But then again when the figures rose to 68,000 in 2014, the two years previously had seen a drop at this time.

Basically the statistics don't show enough to show what is happening.

In interviews with migrants, their advocates, and workers at shelters and soup kitchens in Mexico, the United States and Central America, few quibbled with the idea that President Trump had altered the climate for immigration.

Indeed, it was clear that the ground had shifted on both sides of the border, and that the well-traveled route north to a better life had suddenly grown quieter, riskier and more desperate.

Since January, occupancy at one shelter in Nuevo Laredo, across the border from Laredo, Tex., has fallen by about two-thirds, according to its director, Aarón Méndez Ruiz. Other shelters in the United States and Mexico reported significant drops as well.

Six Central Americans staying at Mr. Méndez’s shelter voluntarily surrendered to the Mexican authorities so they could be sent back home, he said, and about 40 more chose to return on their own.

“That had never happened,” Mr. Méndez said. “People don’t return.”

In the Arizona desert, where blue flags flying 30 feet in the air mark where volunteers have left drums full of water, “there have been more water stations with no water use than usual,” said Stephen Saltonstall of the aid group Humane Borders.

Last week, Ruben Garcia, the director of the Annunciation House, a shelter in El Paso, noticed that far fewer Central Americans were arriving than he was used to seeing. He asked those who did show up why that was.

“One hundred percent verbalized some version of, ‘Your president,’” Mr. Garcia said."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/10/us/trump-immigration-border.html

Everyone except for a few frustrated Democrats seems to understand this is the result of President Trump's firm policy on illegal immigration.

And time will tell if this remains, or if the Mexicans suddenly start calling his bluff, or just find new ways of getting in. Maybe these people are more likely to go somewhere else to get in.

There is no bluff. If they do get in here one way of another, they now believe they will be sent right back. In a short time, the pressure will be on for states to use E-verify before allowing people to find work or receive health, education or welfare benefits, and life in the US will be much less desirable for illegals.

The problem here is that sometimes policies have an initial impact and then it wears off. In economics Republican presidents seem to have this ability to make the economy burst for a few years, and then it drops off. Why? Because the policy isn't actually as good as people think it is.

 

[Pogo]

A tweet here, an tweet there and would be illegal immigrants get the word that the should stay away from the US.

"Illegal Southwest border crossings were down 40% last month, according to just released Customs and Border Protection numbers — a sign that President Donald Trump’s hardline rhetoric and policies on immigration may be having a deterrent effect.

Secretary of Homeland Security John Kelly himself announced the month-to-month numbers, statistics that CBP usually quietly posts on its website without fanfare.

According to CBP data, the 40% drop in illegal Southwest border crossings from January to February is far outside normal seasonal trends. Typically, the January to February change is actually an increase of 10% to 20%.

The drop breaks a nearly 20-year trend, as CBP data going back to 2000 shows an uptick in apprehensions every February.

The number of apprehensions and inadmissible individuals presenting at the border was 18,762 people in February, down from 31,578 in January.

It will still take months to figure out if the decrease in apprehensions is an indication of a lasting Trump effect on immigration patterns. Numbers tend to decrease seasonally in the winter and increase into the spring months.

But the sharp downtick after an uptick at the end of the Obama administration could fit the narrative that it takes tough rhetoric on immigration — backed up by policy — to get word-of-mouth warnings to undocumented immigrants making the harrowing journey to the border."

Illegal border crossings down 40 percent in February: Trump administration

Ummmm...... how would anybody know the number of illegal border crossings? Unless they're just waving them through?

What the article actually says is that apprehensions are down. It also says they're always down in January, and that last January they dropped by more than they did this January.

This is bread and circus for the inattentive anyway. The fact is most illegal immigration doesn't happen at that border. It happens from overstayed visas. Rump used an illusion to sell bullshit to the gullible.

 

[9thIDdoc]

A tweet here, an tweet there and would be illegal immigrants get the word that the should stay away from the US.

"Illegal Southwest border crossings were down 40% last month, according to just released Customs and Border Protection numbers — a sign that President Donald Trump’s hardline rhetoric and policies on immigration may be having a deterrent effect.

Secretary of Homeland Security John Kelly himself announced the month-to-month numbers, statistics that CBP usually quietly posts on its website without fanfare.

According to CBP data, the 40% drop in illegal Southwest border crossings from January to February is far outside normal seasonal trends. Typically, the January to February change is actually an increase of 10% to 20%.

The drop breaks a nearly 20-year trend, as CBP data going back to 2000 shows an uptick in apprehensions every February.

The number of apprehensions and inadmissible individuals presenting at the border was 18,762 people in February, down from 31,578 in January.

It will still take months to figure out if the decrease in apprehensions is an indication of a lasting Trump effect on immigration patterns. Numbers tend to decrease seasonally in the winter and increase into the spring months.

But the sharp downtick after an uptick at the end of the Obama administration could fit the narrative that it takes tough rhetoric on immigration — backed up by policy — to get word-of-mouth warnings to undocumented immigrants making the harrowing journey to the border."

Illegal border crossings down 40 percent in February: Trump administration

Ummmm...... how would anybody know the number of illegal border crossings? Unless they're just waving them through?

What the article actually says is that apprehensions are down. It also says they're always down in January, and that last January they dropped by more than they did this January.

This is bread and circus for the inattentive anyway. The fact is most illegal immigration doesn't happen at that border. It happens from overstayed visas. Rump used an illusion to sell bullshit to the gullible.

Or maybe the gullible are the ones who subscribe to the same bullshit illusions as you.

 

[frigidweirdo]

A tweet here, an tweet there and would be illegal immigrants get the word that the should stay away from the US.

"Illegal Southwest border crossings were down 40% last month, according to just released Customs and Border Protection numbers — a sign that President Donald Trump’s hardline rhetoric and policies on immigration may be having a deterrent effect.

Secretary of Homeland Security John Kelly himself announced the month-to-month numbers, statistics that CBP usually quietly posts on its website without fanfare.

According to CBP data, the 40% drop in illegal Southwest border crossings from January to February is far outside normal seasonal trends. Typically, the January to February change is actually an increase of 10% to 20%.

The drop breaks a nearly 20-year trend, as CBP data going back to 2000 shows an uptick in apprehensions every February.

The number of apprehensions and inadmissible individuals presenting at the border was 18,762 people in February, down from 31,578 in January.

It will still take months to figure out if the decrease in apprehensions is an indication of a lasting Trump effect on immigration patterns. Numbers tend to decrease seasonally in the winter and increase into the spring months.

But the sharp downtick after an uptick at the end of the Obama administration could fit the narrative that it takes tough rhetoric on immigration — backed up by policy — to get word-of-mouth warnings to undocumented immigrants making the harrowing journey to the border."

Illegal border crossings down 40 percent in February: Trump administration

Ummmm...... how would anybody know the number of illegal border crossings? Unless they're just waving them through?

What the article actually says is that apprehensions are down. It also says they're always down in January, and that last January they dropped by more than they did this January.

This is bread and circus for the inattentive anyway. The fact is most illegal immigration doesn't happen at that border. It happens from overstayed visas. Rump used an illusion to sell bullshit to the gullible.

Or maybe the gullible are the ones who subscribe to the same bullshit illusions as you.

Except all he did was ask reasonable questions about what is being said.

Say for example in January you had 20 rapes in a city and in February you had 20 rapes. But in January 25 people reported rapes and in February 5 people reported rapes. Does this mean that rapes went down in February?

 

[toomuchtime_]

In fact, in every previous year, the numbers increased in Feb., but this year they dropped. Clearly, President Trump is succeeding where Obama had failed.

But then again when the figures rose to 68,000 in 2014, the two years previously had seen a drop at this time.

Basically the statistics don't show enough to show what is happening.

In interviews with migrants, their advocates, and workers at shelters and soup kitchens in Mexico, the United States and Central America, few quibbled with the idea that President Trump had altered the climate for immigration.

Indeed, it was clear that the ground had shifted on both sides of the border, and that the well-traveled route north to a better life had suddenly grown quieter, riskier and more desperate.

Since January, occupancy at one shelter in Nuevo Laredo, across the border from Laredo, Tex., has fallen by about two-thirds, according to its director, Aarón Méndez Ruiz. Other shelters in the United States and Mexico reported significant drops as well.

Six Central Americans staying at Mr. Méndez’s shelter voluntarily surrendered to the Mexican authorities so they could be sent back home, he said, and about 40 more chose to return on their own.

“That had never happened,” Mr. Méndez said. “People don’t return.”

In the Arizona desert, where blue flags flying 30 feet in the air mark where volunteers have left drums full of water, “there have been more water stations with no water use than usual,” said Stephen Saltonstall of the aid group Humane Borders.

Last week, Ruben Garcia, the director of the Annunciation House, a shelter in El Paso, noticed that far fewer Central Americans were arriving than he was used to seeing. He asked those who did show up why that was.

“One hundred percent verbalized some version of, ‘Your president,’” Mr. Garcia said."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/10/us/trump-immigration-border.html

Everyone except for a few frustrated Democrats seems to understand this is the result of President Trump's firm policy on illegal immigration.

And time will tell if this remains, or if the Mexicans suddenly start calling his bluff, or just find new ways of getting in. Maybe these people are more likely to go somewhere else to get in.

There is no bluff. If they do get in here one way of another, they now believe they will be sent right back. In a short time, the pressure will be on for states to use E-verify before allowing people to find work or receive health, education or welfare benefits, and life in the US will be much less desirable for illegals.

The problem here is that sometimes policies have an initial impact and then it wears off. In economics Republican presidents seem to have this ability to make the economy burst for a few years, and then it drops off. Why? Because the policy isn't actually as good as people think it is.

You are confusing actual policy changes with mere words. There are several parts to President Trump's illegal immigrant policy that will make it more difficult for illegals to get in here, to avoid being deported if they are here and much more difficult for them to get work or receive health, education or welfare benefits while they are here. Illegals recognize this and are responding by not trying to get here in such great numbers. You should really try to become more issue oriented rather than so partisan in your thinking.

 

[toomuchtime_]

A tweet here, an tweet there and would be illegal immigrants get the word that the should stay away from the US.

"Illegal Southwest border crossings were down 40% last month, according to just released Customs and Border Protection numbers — a sign that President Donald Trump’s hardline rhetoric and policies on immigration may be having a deterrent effect.

Secretary of Homeland Security John Kelly himself announced the month-to-month numbers, statistics that CBP usually quietly posts on its website without fanfare.

According to CBP data, the 40% drop in illegal Southwest border crossings from January to February is far outside normal seasonal trends. Typically, the January to February change is actually an increase of 10% to 20%.

The drop breaks a nearly 20-year trend, as CBP data going back to 2000 shows an uptick in apprehensions every February.

The number of apprehensions and inadmissible individuals presenting at the border was 18,762 people in February, down from 31,578 in January.

It will still take months to figure out if the decrease in apprehensions is an indication of a lasting Trump effect on immigration patterns. Numbers tend to decrease seasonally in the winter and increase into the spring months.

But the sharp downtick after an uptick at the end of the Obama administration could fit the narrative that it takes tough rhetoric on immigration — backed up by policy — to get word-of-mouth warnings to undocumented immigrants making the harrowing journey to the border."

Illegal border crossings down 40 percent in February: Trump administration

Ummmm...... how would anybody know the number of illegal border crossings? Unless they're just waving them through?

What the article actually says is that apprehensions are down. It also says they're always down in January, and that last January they dropped by more than they did this January.

This is bread and circus for the inattentive anyway. The fact is most illegal immigration doesn't happen at that border. It happens from overstayed visas. Rump used an illusion to sell bullshit to the gullible.

Apparently the article went over your head. It addresses illegal attempts to cross from Mexico, and it provides several bases for concluding there are now many fewer attempts to cross that border.

 

[frigidweirdo]

But then again when the figures rose to 68,000 in 2014, the two years previously had seen a drop at this time.

Basically the statistics don't show enough to show what is happening.

In interviews with migrants, their advocates, and workers at shelters and soup kitchens in Mexico, the United States and Central America, few quibbled with the idea that President Trump had altered the climate for immigration.

Indeed, it was clear that the ground had shifted on both sides of the border, and that the well-traveled route north to a better life had suddenly grown quieter, riskier and more desperate.

Since January, occupancy at one shelter in Nuevo Laredo, across the border from Laredo, Tex., has fallen by about two-thirds, according to its director, Aarón Méndez Ruiz. Other shelters in the United States and Mexico reported significant drops as well.

Six Central Americans staying at Mr. Méndez’s shelter voluntarily surrendered to the Mexican authorities so they could be sent back home, he said, and about 40 more chose to return on their own.

“That had never happened,” Mr. Méndez said. “People don’t return.”

In the Arizona desert, where blue flags flying 30 feet in the air mark where volunteers have left drums full of water, “there have been more water stations with no water use than usual,” said Stephen Saltonstall of the aid group Humane Borders.

Last week, Ruben Garcia, the director of the Annunciation House, a shelter in El Paso, noticed that far fewer Central Americans were arriving than he was used to seeing. He asked those who did show up why that was.

“One hundred percent verbalized some version of, ‘Your president,’” Mr. Garcia said."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/10/us/trump-immigration-border.html

Everyone except for a few frustrated Democrats seems to understand this is the result of President Trump's firm policy on illegal immigration.

And time will tell if this remains, or if the Mexicans suddenly start calling his bluff, or just find new ways of getting in. Maybe these people are more likely to go somewhere else to get in.

There is no bluff. If they do get in here one way of another, they now believe they will be sent right back. In a short time, the pressure will be on for states to use E-verify before allowing people to find work or receive health, education or welfare benefits, and life in the US will be much less desirable for illegals.

The problem here is that sometimes policies have an initial impact and then it wears off. In economics Republican presidents seem to have this ability to make the economy burst for a few years, and then it drops off. Why? Because the policy isn't actually as good as people think it is.

You are confusing actual policy changes with mere words. There are several parts to President Trump's illegal immigrant policy that will make it more difficult for illegals to get in here, to avoid being deported if they are here and much more difficult for them to get work or receive health, education or welfare benefits while they are here. Illegals recognize this and are responding by not trying to get here in such great numbers. You should really try to become more issue oriented rather than so partisan in your thinking.

I'm not being partisan in thinking. Trump has been in office less than 2 months, the impact of his policies and what he has said remains to be seen. Coming and saying "hey, Trump is great because of something that has hardly started" is partisan thinking.

 

[Meathead]

I'm not being partisan in thinking. Trump has been in office less than 2 months, the impact of his policies and what he has said remains to be seen. Coming and saying "hey, Trump is great because of something that has hardly started" is partisan thinking.

So, no Nobel Peace Prize for Trump then?

 

[toomuchtime_]

In interviews with migrants, their advocates, and workers at shelters and soup kitchens in Mexico, the United States and Central America, few quibbled with the idea that President Trump had altered the climate for immigration.

Indeed, it was clear that the ground had shifted on both sides of the border, and that the well-traveled route north to a better life had suddenly grown quieter, riskier and more desperate.

Since January, occupancy at one shelter in Nuevo Laredo, across the border from Laredo, Tex., has fallen by about two-thirds, according to its director, Aarón Méndez Ruiz. Other shelters in the United States and Mexico reported significant drops as well.

Six Central Americans staying at Mr. Méndez’s shelter voluntarily surrendered to the Mexican authorities so they could be sent back home, he said, and about 40 more chose to return on their own.

“That had never happened,” Mr. Méndez said. “People don’t return.”

In the Arizona desert, where blue flags flying 30 feet in the air mark where volunteers have left drums full of water, “there have been more water stations with no water use than usual,” said Stephen Saltonstall of the aid group Humane Borders.

Last week, Ruben Garcia, the director of the Annunciation House, a shelter in El Paso, noticed that far fewer Central Americans were arriving than he was used to seeing. He asked those who did show up why that was.

“One hundred percent verbalized some version of, ‘Your president,’” Mr. Garcia said."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/10/us/trump-immigration-border.html

Everyone except for a few frustrated Democrats seems to understand this is the result of President Trump's firm policy on illegal immigration.

And time will tell if this remains, or if the Mexicans suddenly start calling his bluff, or just find new ways of getting in. Maybe these people are more likely to go somewhere else to get in.

There is no bluff. If they do get in here one way of another, they now believe they will be sent right back. In a short time, the pressure will be on for states to use E-verify before allowing people to find work or receive health, education or welfare benefits, and life in the US will be much less desirable for illegals.

The problem here is that sometimes policies have an initial impact and then it wears off. In economics Republican presidents seem to have this ability to make the economy burst for a few years, and then it drops off. Why? Because the policy isn't actually as good as people think it is.

You are confusing actual policy changes with mere words. There are several parts to President Trump's illegal immigrant policy that will make it more difficult for illegals to get in here, to avoid being deported if they are here and much more difficult for them to get work or receive health, education or welfare benefits while they are here. Illegals recognize this and are responding by not trying to get here in such great numbers. You should really try to become more issue oriented rather than so partisan in your thinking.

I'm not being partisan in thinking. Trump has been in office less than 2 months, the impact of his policies and what he has said remains to be seen. Coming and saying "hey, Trump is great because of something that has hardly started" is partisan thinking.

Apparently, the people who have decided not to try to enter the US illegally understand the policies he has announced better than you do.

 

[frigidweirdo]

And time will tell if this remains, or if the Mexicans suddenly start calling his bluff, or just find new ways of getting in. Maybe these people are more likely to go somewhere else to get in.

There is no bluff. If they do get in here one way of another, they now believe they will be sent right back. In a short time, the pressure will be on for states to use E-verify before allowing people to find work or receive health, education or welfare benefits, and life in the US will be much less desirable for illegals.

The problem here is that sometimes policies have an initial impact and then it wears off. In economics Republican presidents seem to have this ability to make the economy burst for a few years, and then it drops off. Why? Because the policy isn't actually as good as people think it is.

You are confusing actual policy changes with mere words. There are several parts to President Trump's illegal immigrant policy that will make it more difficult for illegals to get in here, to avoid being deported if they are here and much more difficult for them to get work or receive health, education or welfare benefits while they are here. Illegals recognize this and are responding by not trying to get here in such great numbers. You should really try to become more issue oriented rather than so partisan in your thinking.

I'm not being partisan in thinking. Trump has been in office less than 2 months, the impact of his policies and what he has said remains to be seen. Coming and saying "hey, Trump is great because of something that has hardly started" is partisan thinking.

Apparently, the people who have decided not to try to enter the US illegally understand the policies he has announced better than you do.

Or maybe the people who decided not to try and enter the US illegally have entered the US illegally, and just didn't get caught, or decided to stay for other reasons, or will try again in a while once the whole thing has blown over.

Possibilities. Never jump onto a ship that might sink, jump onto the ship when you know it won't sink.

 

[bodecea]

Throw a few 50 cals out there and it'll be zero.

I assume you reported this THIRD thread on the same topic, right?