If you’re an American Patriot how can you support Democrat politicians?

That didn’t happen and even if it had, it would not nullify the election, it was built into the Constitution.
The attempt happened. And in the attempt fake elector certificates were created for the purpose of defrauding the government so that according to the Eastman memo and wgat Trump says to hus mob he would have become president elect on January 6. and would have never left office.

Mike Pence foiled the plot to overturn the 2020 election.

It’s still a crime to try. Only a fascist would have tried.
 
You are voting for Musk if you don’t vote for Harris. you should be more paranoid about self driving cars and trucks.

Youve been watching too many mad Max movies and Fox News

It will be consumers in two or three generations from now who will see to it if ICE vehicles, go the way of the horse and carriage as the major means of perdonal transportation.

ICE will never be MADE illegal in the next four years

It will be corporate masters like Elon Musk who will be taking your freedom of choice Of personal transportation away.

Driverless cars - talk to the 20 somethings That will be their dream come true.

I am of the generation having deep nostalgia for muscle cars and motorcycles and buzzing the ave or cruising some may call it.

My ‘68 retro Triumph Bonnieville I mostly take for a spin on Skyline Drive in Virginia will never be illegal after I hand it down to a grandson or granddaughter.. I am confident of that.
Is that so? Kinda tough to believe since my state (Massachusetts) already has a law on the books making it illegal for dealers to sell ICE vehicles after 2034… a copy of a CA law, if I understand it correctly.
 
They weren't 'fake electors'

The cases against fake electors and where they stand


Yes, they were fake electors. Some of which are facing indictments for their illegal actions. It's happening, right now, in the real world.

Then there's the alternative reality you prefer to pretend exists. The one in which the Eastman memo, the genesis behind the fake elector scheme, was perfectly legal. It wasn't.
 
Then there's the alternative reality you prefer to pretend exists. The one in which the Eastman memo, the genesis behind the fake elector scheme, was perfectly legal. It wasn't.

The Eastman memo was not perfectly legal. it was the basis for Donald Trump‘s criminal conspiracy to overturn the 2020 election and disenfranchise 81 million voters including myself and nine out of ten black Americans who voted with me..

Trump is a racist fascist for attrmpting to make it happen.
 
The attempt happened. And in the attempt fake elector certificates were created for the purpose of defrauding the government so that according to the Eastman memo and wgat Trump says to hus mob he would have become president elect on January 6. and would have never left office.

Mike Pence foiled the plot to overturn the 2020 election.

It’s still a crime to try. Only a fascist would have tried.
The states determined who their ballots went for, who the electors were, so it was not going to change the election outcome by any means. The constitution doesn’t allow such nonsense. It was a fraud and maneuver that never would have worked.

Why are you not upset about the fraud the Democratic Party and the media tried to pull on the American people? They were willing to risk the security of the country claiming Biden was competent and knew it, then they had the media perpetuate the fraud. They lied to all Americans, they hid him, they kept him very limited in appearances and Harris was involved, she was willing to allow an incompetent person into the WH and tried to get him re-elected, no higher ground can either party claim, like I said it is party over America and neither side gives a rats ass about you or me.

Once I took the partisan glasses off, I see people that will do anything to gain power.
 
Modern Democrats. Not the great traditional Democrats who brought us a strong middle-class in the 20th century.

Modern Democrats brought us BLM riots, the worst political violence in recent American history the BLM riots, anti-abortion riots, anti-Trump riots hundreds of different riots spread out through Trump’s presidential term which resulted in dozens of people killed, thousand injured billions of dollars worth of damage, numerous attacks on government institutions across the country… and yet Democrats believe that January 6 one event where about 100 people got involved in fist fights with cops are comparable to that. What the hell happened to these people?

Modern Democrats brought us the idea that police are racist. An insult to our friends and neighbors who are police officers. The great police officers black-and-white man or woman in this country.


Modern Democrats brought us cancel culture. Removing items from grocery stores that are deemed by elite millionaires to be offensive. Renaming sports teams because the names are deemed to be offensive by elitist millionaires. None of the American people black or white want this. So some Americans support radical left-wing policies in the modern era?
And unsurprisingly ... These Woke mechanics are just gearing-up.
They know or care to know .... No bounds.
Thanks in part to Obama's message a week before he was
Inaugurated to : Fundementaly TRANSFORM the Country.
Things are getting pathetically Unamerican.Meaning The worst
in our history.Making Woodrow Wilson almost seem like
a choir boy in comparison.
However we were warned.When Sean Hannity got a hold
of a Trinity Baptist Church video.Oprah was a member.
The Obama's sat in Reverend Wrights - Trinity Baptist Church -
for around 20 years.
Do the words .... " God damn America! " ring a bell.
 
dimocrap scum
Edgetho xiv washing the hogs: They weren't 'fake electors' as the Useful Idiots working as unpaid douchebags for the DNC claim. They were Alternative Electors like was done in Hawaii in 1960. The election results for Michigan, and several other States, was still up in the air. We were hoping to prove the election was stolen so Alternative Electors were appointed. dgth 231227 hcwhj00014

Michigan was certified before mid-Decenber same as all other 49 states. No state was open to proving the election was stolen. You are a failed insurrectionist liar. You are one of them.
 
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The states determined who their ballots went for, who the electors were, so it was not going to change the election outcome by any means.
The Eastman memo convinced Trump to attempt to stay in power after losing an election. Of course that is illegal whether he succeeded or not. So it was a crime committed by a sitting president that failed.

That cannot be ok with any citizen of the United States of America let alo me giving a fascist a shot at being returned to office to try it again.
 
You are a failed insurrectionist lie. You are one of them.
You're god-damned right.

I would cheer a modern day Robespierre. You scum sucking slime steal another election, and he's coming. Count on it.

The below is illegal as ****


Nicole Arbour, a Canadian comedienne, singer, actress, and YouTuber, said on her podcast, the Arbour Affect, Friday that she was contacted by several organizations, including People First, and offered $25,000 to support Harris. [Update: Arbour told American Greatness on Sunday that an influencer marketing agency called HypeClash also offered her “six figures” to explain on her podcast why she was switching her vote to Harris.]

TikTok star Meghan Corum went public with her story on Wednesday, claiming she was offered an astounding $50,000 to flip from being a Trump supporter to being a Harris supporter.

During her podcast, Arbour told her followers that she wanted to tell them what’s been going on because this would be her last video before the election.

The comedienne noted that she has made fun of both Harris and Trump, but “I need you guys to know that when celebrities, influencers, musicians, whoever are promoting Harris—it’s because they’re paid.”
 
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The states determined who their ballots went for, who the electors were, so it was not going to change the election outcome by any means.

NotfooledbyW cclxxxix to 286: The Eastman memo convinced Trump to attempt to stay in power after losing an election. Of course that is illegal whether he succeeded or not. So it was a crime committed by a sitting president that failed.

That cannot be ok with any citizen of the United States of America let alo me giving a fascist a shot at being returned to office to try it again.

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Once I took the partisan glasses off, I see people that will do anything to gain power.

Partisan glasses are just fine when they are used to discern truth through reason and facts to arrive at partisanship.

The existence of these Trump words is truth. What they mean cannot be explained away by right wing partisans.

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Trump was attempting to end democracy in the United States of America while he was a president and top law-enforcement officer of the land and took an oath to uphold the constitution.

Attempted fascism that fails is still fascism; and in Trump’s case he committed specific crimes against the United States of America.
 
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i. Papageorgio ccxli.ii to 223 says Obama and Biden helped the super rich obtain more wealth because: ….. billionaires own the two parties, it is blatantly obvious. ppgrg 241103 Siyaap00241

ii. NotfooledbyW ccxciii to 241: . Lets explore a few truths regarding politics and billionaires.Lets focus on things we can. know to be true. Viyaap00293

ktbt-1. Putin is a billionaire.

Palaces, super-yachts, Swiss accounts. How rich is Putin and can sanctions hurt him?

Palaces, super-yachts, Swiss accounts. How rich is Putin and can sanctions hurt him?​

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Russian President Vladimir Putin attends a ceremony on Feb. 23, a day before invading Ukraine. (Alexei Nikolsky / Associated Press). By Don Lee and David Pierson. March 3, 2022.​
WASHINGTON — On paper, the U.S. decision to freeze Russian President Vladimir Putin’s personal assets looks like an empty gestur​
Although he is widely considered one of the richest men in the world, Putin owns only a couple of old cars, a small apartment and whatever savings the 69-year-old former KGB agent has squirreled away from a salary of around $140,000, official documents say.​
Nobody believes the official documents. Most experts say Putin’s vast assets are secretly held by a circle of cronies — the so-called oligarchs and their families.​
So how big is Putin’s secret fortune likely to be?​
Forbes, the magazine known for ranking the world’s billionaires, says it has been trying to answer that question for 20 years. One of its editors was gunned down in Moscow while he was looking into Russia’s early oligarchs.​
The Russian president’s worth is believed to run well into the billions of dollars.​
William Browder, a onetime investor in Russia who was instrumental in U.S. Congress’ passage of the Magnitsky Act, which sanctions foreign individuals who commit human rights abuses, estimates Putin’s wealth at more than $200 billion​
iii. NotfooledbyW ccxciii to 241: Do you agree Saint Papageorgio that Vladimir Putin is a billionaire up there at approaching the Elon Musk level?

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i. Papageorgio ccxli.ii to 223 says Obama and Biden helped the super rich obtain more wealth because: ….. billionaires own the two parties, it is blatantly obvious. ppgrg 241103 Siyaap00241

ii. NotfooledbyW ccxciii to 241: . Lets explore a few truths regarding politics and billionaires. Lets focus on things we can know to be true. ktbt-1. Putin is a billionaire. See Viyaap00293

iii. NotfooledbyW ccxciv to 241: ktbt-2 Elon Musk is a billionaire, He and Putin have talked after Putin invaded our ally - Ukraine


WASHINGTON -- Elon Musk, the billionaire owner of major government contractor SpaceX and a key ally of Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump, has been in regular contact with Russian President Vladimir Putin for the last two years, The Wall Street Journal reported.​
A person familiar with the situation, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the sensitive matter, confirmed to The Associated Press that Musk and Putin have had contact through calls. The person didn't provide additional details about the frequency of the calls, when they occurred or their content.​
Musk, the world's richest man who also owns Tesla and the social platform X, has emerged as a leading voice on the American right. He's poured millions of dollars into Trump's presidential bid and turned the platform once known as Twitter into a site popular with Trump supporters, as well as conspiracy theorists, extremists and Russian propagandists.​
Musk's contacts with Putin raise national security questions, given his companies' work for the government, and highlight concerns about Russian influence in American politics​
iv. NotfooledbyW ccxciv to 241: Do you agree Saint Papageorgio that Elon
Musk is a billionaire who has direct undisclosed communication with Putin.

And Musk is one of Trump’s top four donors to the Trump campaign. According to disclosed information Trump's top four donors have given $459 million—so far—to super PACs backing Trump.

We can accept all in the two paragraphs above to be true. Do you agree Saint Papageorgio?


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ii. NotfooledbyW ccxcv to 242: One Harris ad is calling you a liar Saint Papageorgio:

One of the most important ads of the 2024 presidential election is only six seconds long.

“Donald Trump wants to cut taxes for these guys,” a narrator says as images of Amazon founder Jeff Bezos and Tesla CEO Elon Musk, the second-richest and richest man in the world, respectively, appear on screen. “Kamala Harris wants a tax cut for middle-class families.”​

The second-richest and richest man in the world do not own Kamala Harris and Her Democratic Party according to policy and that six second ad.

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Let’s think about that… Lincoln takes a zero-tolerance, no quarter attitude with the South. Suddenly there are no POWs on either side, only corpses. Lee is forced to invade the North and press the Union army closer to Washington even sooner than 1863. The losses on both sides are apocalyptic, and the scorched earth policies both sides likely employ leave the border states ablaze. Even as the Union eventually takes the advantage, Southern farmers and plantation owners begin burning their own lands and executing their negroes before the Union army can reach them. By the end of the war the entire east coast is a ravaged, burnt and utterly destroyed wreck. Somehow I don’t see thst being a great outcome for the USA.
That might have brought a European power in.
 
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PEOPLE MAGAZINE 1998
If I WERE TO RUN
WOULD RUN AS A REPUBLICAN.
They are the dumbest group of voters.
They believe anything on Fox news.
I could lie. they would eat it up.
my numbers would be terrific.
DONALD TRUMP.

Lol!!
That has been repeatedly debunked. Trump never said that, but you fell for it! :laugh:
 
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NotfooledbyW cclxxxix to 286: The Eastman memo convinced Trump to attempt to stay in power after losing an election. Of course that is illegal whether he succeeded or not. So it was a crime committed by a sitting president that failed.

That cannot be ok with any citizen of the United States of America let alo me giving a fascist a shot at being returned to office to try it again.

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President Trump's landslide victory must be irritating you a little, yes?
 
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