If you’re an American Patriot how can you support Democrat politicians?

[Papageorgio]

You say nothing during Trumps first term show he will be fascist.

What do you call this statement?

NotfooledbyW pcotbccxxiv wrote: “All Vice President Pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify and we become president and you are the happiest people.” 21JAN06-DJT-jEASTMAN. nfbw 240515 Spcotb00224

I am a law abiding working class American who started with nothing, worked, saved, lived within means for fifty five years since I was a freshman in high school. Now Im retired living a very good life and I voted for Biden in 2020 because Democrats helped every step of the way while being constantly obstructed by Republicans with their culture war bullshit and piss on labor trickle down economics.

So when Trump says this;

NotfooledbyW pcotbccxxiv wrote: “All Vice President Pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify and we become president and you are the happiest people.” 21JAN06-DJT-jEASTMAN. nfbw 240515 Spcotb00224o​

He is saying that my sacred vote against him which with 81 million others in my coalition was not going to be honored if Mike Pence refuses to count seven states that Biden won according to the Eastman plan to reject the will of the people and let the Republicans in Congress decide.

How is that not fascist?

That didn’t happen and even if it had, it would not nullify the election, it was built into the Constitution.

How did Democrats help you every step of the way? Did they give you money, while giving the rich more? The two greatest separations of wealth from poor to rich occurred under Obama and Biden. why Is it that they helped the super rich obtain more wealth? Because billionaires own the two parties, it is blatantly obvious.

I am a law abiding working class American who started with nothing, worked, saved, lived within means, I still do, I owned small businesses and paid and struggled for the American dream and Republican and Democratic Party petty taxes, petty laws and over regulation hurt the small businesses. If my business failed, if I got hurt, I wasn’t eligible for unemployment, workman’s comp, my employees did, I didn’t. I now work for someone else that is a small business that can lay awake a night and fight with government bureaucracy, government BS.

Neither party helped, neither party only wanted the money I earned. Democrats and Republican said they cared and then added laws and regulations that hampered me. Sorry, I think Democrats and Republicans are rich and greedy, that doesn’t give a damn about me or anyone else, just money and power, I see no difference in their end game, it is all party over country and this election has proved that to me.

The Democratic Party left in power a man that is clearly incompetent, clearly out of his mind and tried to con us that he was sane, the media was complicit in the lie and when and only when Democrats realized they could no longer win an election did they force him out of a race.

The Democratic Party was willing to leave a man that was failing mentally to stay the most powerful man in the world. Two wars started under his watch and he did nothing, just let Russia and Palestine launch unprovoked acts of war on two other countries and did nothing but fund the wars. How is that in our country’s best interest, it was only in the Democratic Party’s best interests. Spare the bullshit on how the Democrats want to save democracy, they want power and money and are willing to lie to Americans to get it. What else have they lied to us about?

These two party’s want power and money, Democrats and Republicans have spent billions to stay in office, you know why, because the profits are even higher. I find it funny that people believe government works for them, if they do, then why is it they make it so damn hard to get your own money, to tax you on every thing they possibly can? Sorry, I am not buying it. I am done with the two parties.

I am not going to continue to support Democrats or Republicans that don’t give a damn about hard working, middle class families! You can all you want but I am not going to be blind to what they really are and what they stand for.

Small mom and pops, small business is what built this country and Democrats and Republicans have allowed monstrous corporations ruin America. Keep your two party system and shove it.

 

[Papageorgio]

Yes. To get white mostly male Christian culture warrior politician from sticking their long pointy fingers and noses up inside woman’s vaginas once save for all.

Another reason not to vote for Trump, not a reason to vote for Harris.

 

[Papageorgio]

NotfooledbyW ccxxxiii : It is not violence when a woman chooses to terminate her own pregnancy in safety. and in private.

It is violence against women when a government bans a woman’s access to safely terminate her own pregnancy privately.



NotfooledbyW ccxxxiii : She will restore privacy to women and work toward stopping government violence against women.


Papageorgio said: So why is it in some states if you kill a pregnant women you can be charge with two counts of murder, the mothers and the unborn child?

NotfooledbyW ccxxxiii : If an expectant mother plans to deliver her baby to the world she converts a zero rights fetus into a full rights human being expected to arrive in “x” days. No one has s right to deprive expectant mother of her right to give birth to s child .

Rather simple isn’t it Saint Papageorgio

Again, I am for women killing unborn babies, that is a choice, pretty simple St. Stupid, but abortion is a violent procedure. Not having an abortion is not violent, I don’t sugarcoat what things are.

Just people choosing to call themselves a different gender, you can call yourself a man, woman, cat or any animal, just don’t expect me to go along with your lie.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

NotfooledbyW ccxxxii: Yes. To get white mostly male Christian culture warrior politician from sticking their long pointy fingers and noses up inside woman’s vaginas once save for all.

Papageorgio ccxlii: Another reason not to vote for Trump, not a reason to vote for Harris.

NotfooledbyW cccliv to 242: No. Harris did not become pro-choice because Don Trump is opposed to choice when and if white Christian Republican males control a state government.

 

[Papageorgio]

NotfooledbyW ccxxxii: Yes. To get white mostly male Christian culture warrior politician from sticking their long pointy fingers and noses up inside woman’s vaginas once save for all.

Papageorgio ccxlii: Another reason not to vote for Trump, not a reason to vote for Harris.

NotfooledbyW cccliv to 242: No. Harris did not become pro-choice because Don Trump is opposed to choice when and if white Christian Republican males control a state government.

I didn’t say anything about that. I said, you gave me a reason not to vote for Trump and no reason to vote for Harris. Trump is prochoice as is Harris.

 

[mamooth]

I am reading Real Clear Potlitics and 538

That's the bad propaganda.

The right is currently flooding the zone with dozens of fake polls, all deliberately highly slanted to Trump. The left doesn't use that tactic.

RCP and 538 give the crap polls the same weighting as valid polls.

 

[Papageorgio]

That's the bad propaganda.

The right is currently flooding the zone with dozens of fake polls, all deliberately highly slanted to Trump. The left doesn't use that tactic.

RCP and 538 give the crap polls the same weighting as valid polls.

Where do you go for information?

Where is your proof the right is flooding the “zone” (whatever the hell that is) with fake polls?

 

[mamooth]

The Democratic Party was willing to leave a man that was failing mentally to stay the most powerful man in the world.

Your wild double standard there annihilates your credibilty.

Come on. Be honest. Trump is far, far worse than Biden. You're being a shameless party hack, just regurgitating fake Republican talking points.

It's okay to be a proud GOP shill, just admit to what you're doing. Your smarmy "I'm so indepedent" act fools nobody.

 

[Anathema]

Should’ve hung y’all for treason. Being kind to racist terrorist traitors after you crush ‘em bites you in the ass every time.

Do you actually think that would have worked out well? You’re talking about extending the war by at least another 18 months. THEN it would have become a guerrilla war for god knows how long.

Who knows how much stomach for the war the North would have had without Lincoln at the helm.

 

[Papageorgio]

Your wild double standard there annihilates your credibilty.

Come on. Be honest. Trump is far, far worse than Biden. You're being a shameless party hack, just regurgitating fake Republican talking points.

It's okay to be a proud GOP shill, just admit to what you're doing. Your smarmy "I'm so indepedent" act fools nobody.

I am not voting for Trump, I am going with Oliver, neither party has a trustworthy candidate. So I am credible and it doesn’t change the fact that the Democratic Party was willing to keep a mentally incompetent man as the most powerful man in the world and lied to us.

 

[mamooth]

Where do you go for information?

To individual polls, looking at their history.

Where is your proof the right is flooding the “zone” (whatever the hell that is) with fake polls?

“Red Wave” Redux: Are GOP Polls Rigging the Averages in Trump’s Favor?

Polling by right-leaning firms has exploded this cycle. Maybe they want to be accurate—or maybe they’re trying to create a sense of momentum for Donald Trump.

newrepublic.com

 

[Papageorgio]

To individual polls, looking at their history.

“Red Wave” Redux: Are GOP Polls Rigging the Averages in Trump’s Favor?

Polling by right-leaning firms has exploded this cycle. Maybe they want to be accurate—or maybe they’re trying to create a sense of momentum for Donald Trump.

newrepublic.com

So another non-answer. You never answered where you get your news and this is my third time asking.

As far as polling, that is why I say it is a coin flip, I don’t trust them but I still think Pennsylvania will determine the Presidency.

 

[mamooth]

So another non-answer. You never answered where you get your news and this is my third time asking.

As everyone just saw you run from my source, my work is done.

 

[Papageorgio]

As everyone just saw you run from my source, my work is done.

I didn’t run from your source, are you telling me you get your source on news from just one source? You go by just one article? You are being deliberately dishonest with me. Take care.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Do you actually think that would have worked out well?

treason is treason and traitors are traitors.

We’d be better off today if we treated them all as what they were Traitors to our beloved Constitution.

 

[Anathema]

treason is treason and traitors are traitors.

We’d be better off today if we treated them all as what they were Traitors to our beloved Constitution.

Let’s think about that… Lincoln takes a zero-tolerance, no quarter attitude with the South. Suddenly there are no POWs on either side, only corpses. Lee is forced to invade the North and press the Union army closer to Washington even sooner than 1863. The losses on both sides are apocalyptic, and the scorched earth policies both sides likely employ leave the border states ablaze. Even as the Union eventually takes the advantage, Southern farmers and plantation owners begin burning their own lands and executing their negroes before the Union army can reach them. By the end of the war the entire east coast is a ravaged, burnt and utterly destroyed wreck. Somehow I don’t see thst being a great outcome for the USA.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Trump is prochoice as is Harris.

You are a liar..to yourself: Trump is pro letting white Christian male Republican politicians choose for the women what they can and cannot do with their bodies. Kamala is diametrically opposed to that.

no wonder you don’t really vote. You have no clue what’s going on in the world.

i’m seeing a definite pattern here

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Somehow I don’t see thst being a great outcome for the USA.

are you talking about burning it all down now and handing it over to Putin If we don’t install the Trump family as our new royalty with divine right to rule until Jesus Christ shows up from the sky.

 

[Anathema]

are you talking about burning it all down now and handing it over to Putin If we don’t install the Trump family as our new royalty with divine right to rule until Jesus Christ shows up from the sky.

I’m suggesting that option would be better than a Harris/Walz presidency. I’m not actively proposing it or planning anything of the sort… but i probably wouldn’t actively resist it either.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

I’m suggesting that option would be better than a Harris/Walz presidency

treason is apparently in your blood.

I was right. Hillary was right too! you are deplorable.